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If you could ensure the survival of one empire at their height, which would it be?

1 - The German Empire
93
19%
2 - The French Empire
30
6%
3 - The Spanish Empire
24
5%
4 - The British Empire
117
24%
5 - The Mongol Empire
17
3%
6 - The Abbasid Caliphate
22
4%
7 - The Roman Empire
120
24%
8 - The Qing Dynasty
12
2%
9 - Imperial Japan
14
3%
10 - The Russian Empire
48
10%
 
Total votes : 497

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Postby Herskerstad » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:44 am

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
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You forgot the occasional kamikaze.

The storm and not the pilots.

Another Historical Event I would reverse...


I would consider Yuan and Qing rule, as well as Liao/Northen Song Jin to be acceptable topics on the thread.

Specifically, I think Yuan's extended racial policies, contrasted with Qing's policy of letting the Han for the most part govern themselves, was influential in describing the relative short life of one and the long life of the other.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:46 am

Yoshida wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Another Historical Event I would reverse...


A traditionalist who tries to defy the will of the gods, oh dear.

Yoshida wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Another Historical Event I would reverse...


A traditionalist who tries to defy the will of the gods, oh dear.

It was sorcery and nobody can convince me otherwise.
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:46 am

Yoshida wrote:
Luminesa wrote:If you're going to say he's talking merely from emotions, you need to prove he's actually talking from emotions, rather than trying to tear your opponent down with, "Haha, I'm so happy I'm not an emotional right-winger, I'm an intellectual left-winger, look how awesome I am!". That tells nobody anything, except that you look at right-wingers as emotional nutjobs and left-wingers as calm intellectuals (which is a stereotype, and stereotypes only work to ingrain anti-intellectualism), so you're really not helping the argument and proving yourself as the calm, reasonable intellectual.


Except I'm not the one who brought the "fee-fee" meme, Aelex did, and I merely pointed out his own side of the spectrum uses it as justification a lot more than figures on the Left. It doesn't have anything to do with my own opinion on reason and emotion (in fact, I view the both of them as important), I condemn the Left for it's silly intellectualism and rationalism, just as I criticize the Right for its own faults.
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When did you gain the ability to magically converse with your genes? Also, it's always felt ironic that people who believe in an eternal soul make appeals to biological determinism.

I don't even know what the "fee-fee" meme is. And well, as long as you've got a balanced view of both, that's good. :)

Never did, and you know what I mean, dang it! I know that I am XX, I say, "Oh, okay. I'm a girl." I believe in an eternal soul, yes, and my soul itself has no gender. It's non-physical and thus is not part of my physical biology, though it is part of my existence as a person.
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Postby Aelex » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:47 am

Jochizyd Republic wrote:No walls can save you from the Scourge of God.

A nosebleed, however... :p
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Postby Herskerstad » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:48 am

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Yoshida wrote:
A traditionalist who tries to defy the will of the gods, oh dear.

Yoshida wrote:
A traditionalist who tries to defy the will of the gods, oh dear.

It was sorcery and nobody can convince me otherwise.


Don't leave a brush with your hair on it just lying around.

Someone who knows their history might just get some ideas.
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Postby Spaceman Spliff » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:49 am

Herskerstad wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Another Historical Event I would reverse...


I would consider Yuan and Qing rule, as well as Liao/Northen Song Jin to be acceptable topics on the thread.

Specifically, I think Yuan's extended racial policies, contrasted with Qing's policy of letting the Han for the most part govern themselves, was influential in describing the relative short life of one and the long life of the other.

The Yuan did make a new Mongol alphabet and expected everyone to use it, for sure.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:52 am

Herskerstad wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Another Historical Event I would reverse...


I would consider Yuan and Qing rule, as well as Liao/Northen Song Jin to be acceptable topics on the thread.

Specifically, I think Yuan's extended racial policies, contrasted with Qing's policy of letting the Han for the most part govern themselves, was influential in describing the relative short life of one and the long life of the other.

Yuan Encouraged Integration.

And the Qing did much the same thing with widely hated policies designed to get Han Chinese to adopt Manchu Custom and Dress (the Queue being one and probably most famous example of that) . Penalties for not conforming were often extremely severe under Qing Emperors. No less severe than Penalties for not following the Borjigin's codes under the Yuan. Although they did give the Han some Autonomy in terms of local government, to seperate them from the Yuan based on how their integration policy worked is a bit strange. Since they both were very heavy on almost reinventing the Culture of China to fit Mongol and Manchu norms.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:57 am

Aelex wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:No walls can save you from the Scourge of God.

A nosebleed, however... :p

It was a pretty intense nosebleed tbf.
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Postby Yoshida (Ancient) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:57 am

Luminesa wrote:
Yoshida wrote:
Except I'm not the one who brought the "fee-fee" meme, Aelex did, and I merely pointed out his own side of the spectrum uses it as justification a lot more than figures on the Left. It doesn't have anything to do with my own opinion on reason and emotion (in fact, I view the both of them as important), I condemn the Left for it's silly intellectualism and rationalism, just as I criticize the Right for its own faults.


When did you gain the ability to magically converse with your genes? Also, it's always felt ironic that people who believe in an eternal soul make appeals to biological determinism.

I don't even know what the "fee-fee" meme is. And well, as long as you've got a balanced view of both, that's good. :)

Never did, and you know what I mean, dang it! I know that I am XX, I say, "Oh, okay. I'm a girl." I believe in an eternal soul, yes, and my soul itself has no gender. It's non-physical and thus is not part of my physical biology, though it is part of my existence as a person.


One of the things that I dislike about the Enlightenment is that it brought a separation of feeling and reason, while the classical period managed to live in harmony with both.

How do you know that you're not born with XY chromosomes? There are cisgender women who have XY and never even know it.

Why even believe in a soul then, when it's just a presupposition?
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Postby Ban Pho » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:58 am

i can't see the Great Northern War anywhere on the poll.

come on Carolus Rex was the savior of the Swedish Empire, he was a true patriot.

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Postby Camaalbakrius » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:59 am

Yoshida wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I don't even know what the "fee-fee" meme is. And well, as long as you've got a balanced view of both, that's good. :)

Never did, and you know what I mean, dang it! I know that I am XX, I say, "Oh, okay. I'm a girl." I believe in an eternal soul, yes, and my soul itself has no gender. It's non-physical and thus is not part of my physical biology, though it is part of my existence as a person.


One of the things that I dislike about the Enlightenment is that it brought a separation of feeling and reason, while the classical period managed to live in harmony with both.

How do you know that you're not born with XY chromosomes? There are cisgender women who have XY and never even know it.

Why even believe in a soul then, when it's just a presupposition?

You don't have a soul. You are a soul. What you have is a body
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Postby Irecker » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:59 am

Good to see the right-wing NSG machine truly has no brakes.

Morning, fellas.
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Postby Irecker » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:00 am

Camaalbakrius wrote:
Yoshida wrote:
One of the things that I dislike about the Enlightenment is that it brought a separation of feeling and reason, while the classical period managed to live in harmony with both.

How do you know that you're not born with XY chromosomes? There are cisgender women who have XY and never even know it.

Why even believe in a soul then, when it's just a presupposition?

You don't have a soul. You are a soul. What you have is a body

See? This guy gets it.
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Postby Camaalbakrius » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:00 am

Irecker wrote:Good to see the right-wing NSG machine truly has no brakes.

Morning, fellas.

The Trump Train has no Brakes

Good morning to you, fine sir
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Postby Grand Britannia » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:00 am

Ban Pho wrote:savior of the Swedish Empire


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Postby Benuty » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:01 am

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Benuty wrote:Benuty "the blessed" I has a nice ring to it.

Benuty the blessed ruler of the RWDT

Definitely.
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Postby Aelex » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:02 am

Ban Pho wrote:i can't see the Great Northern War anywhere on the poll.

come on Carolus Rex was the savior of the Swedish Empire, he was a true patriot.

Hate to break it to you but Charles de Suède was Richelieu's puppet and it's his reign that marked the beginning of the end for Sweden. :p
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Postby Spaceman Spliff » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:03 am

Camaalbakrius wrote:
Yoshida wrote:
One of the things that I dislike about the Enlightenment is that it brought a separation of feeling and reason, while the classical period managed to live in harmony with both.

How do you know that you're not born with XY chromosomes? There are cisgender women who have XY and never even know it.

Why even believe in a soul then, when it's just a presupposition?

You don't have a soul. You are a soul. What you have is a body

Shit's getting creepy now.
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Postby Ban Pho » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:03 am

Grand Britannia wrote:
Ban Pho wrote:savior of the Swedish Empire


A sacrifice in vain

i don't know how to express this in english, but I'll try. It's the thought that counts.

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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:03 am

Irecker wrote:Good to see the right-wing NSG machine truly has no brakes.

Morning, fellas.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:04 am

Camaalbakrius wrote:
Irecker wrote:Good to see the right-wing NSG machine truly has no brakes.

Morning, fellas.

The Trump Train has no Brakes

Good morning to you, fine sir

More like the RWDT has turned into TET 2.0
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Irecker wrote:Good to see the right-wing NSG machine truly has no brakes.

Morning, fellas.

Afternoon.
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Camaalbakrius wrote:The Trump Train has no Brakes

Good morning to you, fine sir

More like the RWDT has turned into TET 2.0

More flippant than Family Guy and South Park combined.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:05 am

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Jochizyd Republic wrote:I'm seriously interested in how you reconcile your approval for decadence with Strict observance of Orthodox Judaism. Or if you're just joking about dirty stuff.


...So Benuty is actually (((Benuty)))?

Yes. You shouldn't be surprised.
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Postby Aelex » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:05 am

Benuty wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Benuty the blessed ruler of the RWDT

Definitely.

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Postby Benuty » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:08 am

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Benuty wrote:Ironically for lesbians it actualy didn't since Queen Victoria's denial of their existence allow the lesbian underground to flourish.

I'm seriously interested in how you reconcile your approval for decadence with Strict observance of Orthodox Judaism. Or if you're just joking about dirty stuff.

I hardly joke about serious business. I merely see it as an outlet of the physical condition that there need be no shame over.

Hyper moralists however are to me the epitome of decadence.

Posted again.
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