Right Wing Discussion Thread VII: As Easy As Reich Two Three

[Yoshida (Ancient)]

What people forget is that the samurai were humans like everyone else, and like humans, they had survival instincts. So did their leaders, which is why daimyo weren't adverse to calling a retreat when things look bleak. Defeated daimyo were encouraged to join their conquerors, which explains why the Japanese aristocracy didn't all die out in a century.

But another day of refuting a French chauvinist.

>mild commonplaces that don't take into account the very real and morbid obsession the samurai class had of honor
>"refuting"

But another day of a weeabo refuting himself.

> pointing out how the modern image of samurai is largely a romanticist conception similar to knights and chivalry
> "weeaboo"

Despite the weeaboo thing to do would be to take a more positive version of your opinion.

[Yoshida (Ancient)]

I wonder what would have happened had a Christian daimyo become the new shogun?

Probably nothing too spectacular. It's unlikely a Christian shogun would be able to prompt the entire country to convert along with him; it would certainly lead to a better status for Christians, however.

Too many people had investments in Buddhism and Shinto for a Christian shogun to succeed.

[Ban Pho]

mfw the Great Northern War wasn't on the poll

[Aelex]

> pointing out how the modern image of samurai is largely a romanticist conception similar to knights and chivalry
> "weeaboo"

Despite the weeaboo thing to do would be to take a more positive version of your opinion.

Don't try to backpedal your way out of this shit mate as you did nothing of the kind; rather, you went against well known historical and cultural facts to make a commonplace "point" and basically denied the prevalence of the concept of Bushido in the process which is, to put it bluntly, stupid as fuck.
That's precisely why I called you a weeaboo, because you only have superficial knowledge of Japan but act like you're an expert.

[Dushan]

mfw the Great Northern War wasn't on the poll

The great balkenese War however is about to begin in four Hours according to trustworthy sources.

And yes. Carolus Rex was the best. Should be in there instead of Boxers.

[Ban Pho]

mfw the Great Northern War wasn't on the poll

The great balkanese War however is about to begin in four Hours according to trustworthy sources.

And yes. Carolus Rex was the best. Should be in there instead of Boxers.

ikr

[Aelex]

And yes. Carolus Rex was the best. Should be in there instead of Boxers.

>smug Richelieu face

[The V O I D]

How dare you start without me!

[Eisarn-Ara]

No Rhodesia on the poll?

Do none of you want to prevent the soulfucking that ruined south africa?

[Jochizyd Republic]

Nice

[Luminesa]

Samurais are over-rated, any European knight or cuirassier of any period from the 8th to the 19th century would have rekted them on a one on one fight.
Japan lacking in iron, their weapons were quite of an inferior quality, their skill was so shit they weren't even smart enough to use shields, as for discipline? Fucking please. Fighting until death when retreat is a more viable option or suiciding after a defeat when your men need their commander all for the sake of remaining "honoroburu" is simple stupidity, not discipline.

I really don't understand the hard-on so many people have for samurai, neither.

What people forget is that the samurai were humans like everyone else, and like humans, they had survival instincts. So did their leaders, which is why daimyo weren't adverse to calling a retreat when things look bleak. Defeated daimyo were encouraged to join their conquerors, which explains why the Japanese aristocracy didn't all die out in a century.

But another day of refuting a French chauvinist.

Doesn't prove the obvious truth that the Samurai were superior warriors to the Vikings. Better armor, better weapons, more skill, more discipline.

> When you will never wage war on daimyo and establish a theocracy

Having survival instincts doesn't take away from the fact that Japanese samurai had some serious flaws in their attack strategies. I could have good survival instincts, sure. Doesn't mean I'm going to beat you at paintball any time soon.

[Even Less of Mackonia]

Without the slightest hesitation the American Revolution.

Britain's hegemony is secured for another three centuries and no Social-Humanism. Glorious.

[Luminesa]

No Rhodesia on the poll?

Do none of you want to prevent the soulfucking that ruined south africa?

MUGABE WAS GARBAGE.

[Luminesa]

Without the slightest hesitation the American Revolution.

Britain's hegemony is secured for another three centuries and no Social-Humanism. Glorious.

*Somewhere George Washington and the Marquis de Lafayette are both looking at you with mild disdain.*

[Benuty]

How dare you start without me!

The grandest of BTFO'ing yet.

[Jochizyd Republic]

French Revolution probably. As the consequences of it sort of inspired many of the other revolutions.

The Young Turks I would also prevent, but the root of their agenda is farther back.

[The V O I D]

How dare you start without me!

The grandest of BTFO'ing yet.

...nah.

[Benuty]

The grandest of BTFO'ing yet.

...nah.

Technically yes because in most cultures starting without guests is considered incredibly rude. You are the guest in this one my friend.

[Thermodolia]

Without the slightest hesitation the American Revolution.

Britain's hegemony is secured for another three centuries and no Social-Humanism. Glorious.

And then Britain collapses under its own weight 100 years later

[Benuty]

Without the slightest hesitation the American Revolution.

Britain's hegemony is secured for another three centuries and no Social-Humanism. Glorious.

And then Britain collapses under its own weight 100 years later

Debatable if the industrial revolution still happens.

[Even Less of Mackonia]

Without the slightest hesitation the American Revolution.

Britain's hegemony is secured for another three centuries and no Social-Humanism. Glorious.

*Somewhere George Washington and the Marquis de Lafayette are both looking at you with mild disdain.*

Good. They better stay mild.

[Even Less of Mackonia]

Without the slightest hesitation the American Revolution.

Britain's hegemony is secured for another three centuries and no Social-Humanism. Glorious.

And then Britain collapses under its own weight 100 years later

Not really. America was not some intensely difficult or taxing place to run in comparison to say, India. And given the British Empire was a privatised affair, Britain herself never bore much weight to collapse under anyway.

[Ban Pho]

can someone change the poll and switch the Boxers to the Great Northern War

[Old Tyrannia]

*Somewhere George Washington and the Marquis de Lafayette are both looking at you with mild disdain.*

Good. They better stay mild.

Samuel Johnson, staring down Whigs since 1709.

can someone change the poll and switch the Boxers to the Great Northern War

Why?

[Ban Pho]

Good. They better stay mild.

Samuel Johnson, staring down Whigs since 1709.

can someone change the poll and switch the Boxers to the Great Northern War

Why?

beacuse reasons