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If you could ensure the survival of one empire at their height, which would it be?

1 - The German Empire
93
19%
2 - The French Empire
30
6%
3 - The Spanish Empire
24
5%
4 - The British Empire
117
24%
5 - The Mongol Empire
17
3%
6 - The Abbasid Caliphate
22
4%
7 - The Roman Empire
120
24%
8 - The Qing Dynasty
12
2%
9 - Imperial Japan
14
3%
10 - The Russian Empire
48
10%
 
Total votes : 497

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Postby Gauliscia » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:55 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Yorkers wrote:
what is neoliberalism


what is aleppo

? :eyebrow:
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:55 pm

Luminesa wrote:I mean, a lot of left-wing corporations-Starbucks, DISNEY, Apple, Microsoft, etc.-have the most money. And they can basically throw it at whoever disagrees with them. This is a problem.

...

How are those corporations left-wing?
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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:55 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Oh no. No, no, no, a thousand times no. If you have a personality disorder, that is one thing. You can't blame anyone for that, it happens. But if you're going around blaming people for your actions and for your behavior, that's a cop-out. You can blame a teacher for causing you some sort of pain, certainly. But you can't blame your teachers and coaches and parents for the way you act towards women. They might have promoted a certain mindset, and it might not have been healthy, but in the end, it all comes back to you. And emotional and mental maturity is realizing this: that YOU are responsible for YOUR actions.


To be fair, I have a genetic history of mental illness (schizophrenia, alzheimer's, among others) combined with a really shitty environment growing up (outside of home, that is; that wasn't as shitty).

I feel as though putting all the blame on me is unfair because I didn't exactly choose this, but then again, I don't care anymore. I stopped caring years ago.


Family history of Epilepsy, Multiple-Sclerosis, Alzheimer's, Thyroid Disease, Cancer, and Depression. I've had a shitty childhood, and there are entire parts of my childhood I do not remember. Despite that, I'm not spiteful. I don't put the blame on me, but I don't blame everyone else, either. Neither helps. I deal with the hand I was dealt and make what I can out of it, it's not the path I may like, so I make my own. Stop trying to look for someone to blame, and just let it go. Life gets a whole lot simpler. :/

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:55 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:RWDT — has the mainstream left gotten too entrenched with large corporations and big business? Have they become the very monster that they fought, as evidenced by the huge corporate donations to the Clinton foundation and the massive political connections to the corporate media (CNN, WSJ, etc.?)

Clinton was the right-wing of the center-right party.


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Postby Italios » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:55 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:RWDT — has the mainstream left gotten too entrenched with large corporations and big business? Have they become the very monster that they fought, as evidenced by the huge corporate donations to the Clinton foundation and the massive political connections to the corporate media (CNN, WSJ, etc.?)

I mean, a lot of left-wing corporations-Starbucks, DISNEY, Apple, Microsoft, etc.-have the most money. And they can basically throw it at whoever disagrees with them. This is a problem.

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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:55 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Clinton was the right-wing of the center-right party.

By European standards, sure. However, the Democrats are a left-wing party in the context of American politics, and I'm fairly sure they'd be recognised as such in America.


Basically. Clinton, here in the US, is a leftist, and its a bit silly to pretend that Democrats are "center right" or "right." A lot of leftists do this, and I guess I can see where that thought might stem from, but the Dems are all for expanding social services, raising the minimum wage, a larger social security net, more expansive LGBT rights and shit. I'd call that somewhat left of center, and left here in America.

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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:55 pm

Austrasien wrote:LOL

Anyways, if you can't overcome your environment you didn't deserve to. VOID is exactly what he deserved to be.


To be fair, I was at a genetic disadvantage in many, many ways.

Like starting a footrace after being shot in both knees.

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Postby -Fahrong- » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:55 pm

Gauliscia wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
I honestly don't know where it begins or ends, I just go through life doing my best to pretend to be normal IRL and hope for the best.

And if I'm about to get in trouble, I bring out the fake tears and call my accuser a liar. Works every time (in my experience so far).

But does that not pull on your conscience? To actively deceive people?

Being completely honest. No. I am an extremely honest person purely because it has been beneficial to have a reputation for being so. I have never felt such a pain.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:56 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Yorkers wrote:
what is neoliberalism


what is aleppo

GOSH, JOHNSON, NOBODY ASKED YOU. XD
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:56 pm

The V O I D wrote:Again, you're not convincing me to care or feel guilty because I am literally incapable. That's part of my illness, son.

And you seriously overestimate parental intuition and/or seriously underestimate my ability to pretend and put on a "face."

The fact that you feel the need to defend yourself speaks volumes.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:56 pm

Gauliscia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
what is aleppo

? :eyebrow:[/quote]

Do not mind him.

*drags Libling away by the ear*
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:56 pm

Gauliscia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
what is aleppo

? :eyebrow:


I had to, no apologies.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:56 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:RWDT — has the mainstream left gotten too entrenched with large corporations and big business? Have they become the very monster that they fought, as evidenced by the huge corporate donations to the Clinton foundation and the massive political connections to the corporate media (CNN, WSJ, etc.?)


Well, I don't consider Clinton or that lot 'Left' anyway, so that kinda falls flat.

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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:56 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
To be fair, I have a genetic history of mental illness (schizophrenia, alzheimer's, among others) combined with a really shitty environment growing up (outside of home, that is; that wasn't as shitty).

I feel as though putting all the blame on me is unfair because I didn't exactly choose this, but then again, I don't care anymore. I stopped caring years ago.


Family history of Epilepsy, Multiple-Sclerosis, Alzheimer's, Thyroid Disease, Cancer, and Depression. I've had a shitty childhood, and there are entire parts of my childhood I do not remember. Despite that, I'm not spiteful. I don't put the blame on me, but I don't blame everyone else, either. Neither helps. I deal with the hand I was dealt and make what I can out of it, it's not the path I may like, so I make my own. Stop trying to look for someone to blame, and just let it go. Life gets a whole lot simpler. :/


I don't look for a singular person to blame. That's what my misanthropy's for.

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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:57 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The V O I D wrote:Again, you're not convincing me to care or feel guilty because I am literally incapable. That's part of my illness, son.

And you seriously overestimate parental intuition and/or seriously underestimate my ability to pretend and put on a "face."

The fact that you feel the need to defend yourself speaks volumes.


I'm not defending myself; merely pointing out facts he seems to be missing.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:57 pm

Yorkers wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:RWDT — has the mainstream left gotten too entrenched with large corporations and big business? Have they become the very monster that they fought, as evidenced by the huge corporate donations to the Clinton foundation and the massive political connections to the corporate media (CNN, WSJ, etc.?)


what is neoliberalism


Liberalism.

When someone says 'neo' I just lob that part off.

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Postby Gauliscia » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:57 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Gauliscia wrote:? :eyebrow:


I had to, no apologies.

So... You don't know what Aleppo is?
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Gauliscia is a Wodinist and germanic parliamentary democracy headed by a monarch. The Stalwart Boar Party in power backs a strong military, friendly foreign policy, a pious proud people and government support for the needy. It's a primeval landscape roamed by rich fauna. Gauliscia is lead by its aristocratic elite but fuelled by the working class.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:58 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:RWDT — has the mainstream left gotten too entrenched with large corporations and big business? Have they become the very monster that they fought, as evidenced by the huge corporate donations to the Clinton foundation and the massive political connections to the corporate media (CNN, WSJ, etc.?)


Well, I don't consider Clinton or that lot 'Left' anyway, so that kinda falls flat.


Yet she was significantly left enough for many former Bernie Bros to vote for, no? I do recall bragging that she was "dragged left" and was further left than Obama back in August or somesuch.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:58 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:RWDT — has the mainstream left gotten too entrenched with large corporations and big business? Have they become the very monster that they fought, as evidenced by the huge corporate donations to the Clinton foundation and the massive political connections to the corporate media (CNN, WSJ, etc.?)


The mainstream American and European left, yes. I'll agree with your points on the Clintons, its obvious that our mainstream media is garbage. But I want to add a caveat that this is beginning to hold true in Europe, wherein the social democratic parties and whatnot are cozy with both Brussels and large corporations, which is crony capitalism, really.

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Postby Southerly Gentleman » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:58 pm

Gauliscia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I had to, no apologies.

So... You don't know what Aleppo is?

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:59 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Austrasien wrote:LOL

Anyways, if you can't overcome your environment you didn't deserve to. VOID is exactly what he deserved to be.


To be fair, I was at a genetic disadvantage in many, many ways.

Like starting a footrace after being shot in both knees.

You wanna talk about disadvantages? My little sister has quite the long list of genetic disadvantages. Physical and intellectual. If you wanna talk about people being genetically shot in the knees, she's taken quite a few proverbially punches to her dignity. And she still manages to be a decent human being. If you don't let your disabilities define you, you will be capable of truly awesome things. But if you let them be your excuse for your behavior towards other, trust me, they will define you.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:59 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Family history of Epilepsy, Multiple-Sclerosis, Alzheimer's, Thyroid Disease, Cancer, and Depression. I've had a shitty childhood, and there are entire parts of my childhood I do not remember. Despite that, I'm not spiteful. I don't put the blame on me, but I don't blame everyone else, either. Neither helps. I deal with the hand I was dealt and make what I can out of it, it's not the path I may like, so I make my own. Stop trying to look for someone to blame, and just let it go. Life gets a whole lot simpler. :/


I don't look for a singular person to blame. That's what my misanthropy's for.

That's not misanthropy. That's just immaturity. Take control of your behavior, or it will take control of you.
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Postby Italios » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:59 pm

Gauliscia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I had to, no apologies.

So... You don't know what Aleppo is?

It's a Gary Johnson quote from a live interview when asked what he would do about the Aleppo situation. He's probably still kicking himself about it.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:59 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:No true Scotsman?

Clinton, and more broadly the Clintonite wave of New Democrats in general, have long been accused of being nearly indistinguishable from the opposition.
Major-Tom wrote:Basically. Clinton, here in the US, is a leftist, and its a bit silly to pretend that Democrats are "center right" or "right." A lot of leftists do this, and I guess I can see where that thought might stem from, but the Dems are all for expanding social services,

Considering that Dems have long been cutting social services, I find that hard to swallow.
raising the minimum wage,

Should not be a left or right-wing issue considering that both supposedly opposite sides agree in principle on a minimum wage.
a larger social security net,

Yeah, that's why we've been cutting SSDI for the past eight years. That's why 'welfare' programs declined markedly under Bill.
more expansive LGBT rights and shit.

If you count that as left-wing, you're falling behind your own party.
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