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If you could ensure the survival of one empire at their height, which would it be?

1 - The German Empire
93
19%
2 - The French Empire
30
6%
3 - The Spanish Empire
24
5%
4 - The British Empire
117
24%
5 - The Mongol Empire
17
3%
6 - The Abbasid Caliphate
22
4%
7 - The Roman Empire
120
24%
8 - The Qing Dynasty
12
2%
9 - Imperial Japan
14
3%
10 - The Russian Empire
48
10%
 
Total votes : 497

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:40 pm

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The V O I D wrote:Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.


Maybe this is why those kids keep beating you up.

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Postby Yorkers » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:40 pm

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Conscentia wrote:Excuses. You're not talking about any of it in a relevant way at all. All of this is an off-topic tangent upon on a off-topic tangent.

I would say opposition to polygamy is relevant to Right Wing ideology. If I have to take a roundabout way to explain why it is wrong, that is irrelevant to the point of the arguments.


Opposition to polygamy was one of the foundations of the Republican Party.
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:41 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
Yes. What's the difference? I don't get it.

If you have to ask that question, you are not qualified to speak on anything about romantic relationships, and have no business developing social policy regarding them.


That's about as valid as me saying: because you're religious, you are not qualified to speak on LGBT issues and relationships, and have no business developing social policy regarding them.

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Postby Gauliscia » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:41 pm

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Yorkers wrote:
Are you actually asking?


Yes. What's the difference? I don't get it.

Lmao! Is that the extent of your illness?
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:41 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Luminesa wrote:...I'm almost 21 and I still have the mind of a 12-year-old, most of the time...lol...


Same. I'll still gigglefit over stupid shit.


I laughed for a long time when someone got kicked in the balls...on the television. I think I'm a child at heart.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:41 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Luminesa wrote:...I'm almost 21 and I still have the mind of a 12-year-old, most of the time...lol...


Same. I'll still gigglefit over stupid shit.

I think the association of such things with childhood is a sign of having a really shitty adulthood.
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Postby Yorkers » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:42 pm

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Gauliscia wrote:^This so much! So much!

...I'm almost 21 and I still have the mind of a 12-year-old, most of the time...lol...


Repealing child labor laws would fix this quickly.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:42 pm

The V O I D wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:If you have to ask that question, you are not qualified to speak on anything about romantic relationships, and have no business developing social policy regarding them.


That's about as valid as me saying: because you're religious, you are not qualified to speak on LGBT issues and relationships, and have no business developing social policy regarding them.

No it isn't, because relationships are founded on romantic feelings. If you do not understand what a romantic feeling is, you are not qualified to develop a social policy with romantic relationships in-mind.
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:42 pm

Gauliscia wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
Yes. What's the difference? I don't get it.

Lmao! Is that the extent of your illness?


I honestly don't know where it begins or ends, I just go through life doing my best to pretend to be normal IRL and hope for the best.

And if I'm about to get in trouble, I bring out the fake tears and call my accuser a liar. Works every time (in my experience so far).

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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:43 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Same. I'll still gigglefit over stupid shit.


I laughed for a long time when someone got kicked in the balls...on the television. I think I'm a child at heart.


Yep! I love watching failarmy on YouTube. :lol2:

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:43 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Yorkers wrote:
To be honest, it does seem like another psuedomedical, postmodern bullshit diagnosis for "I'm a shitty person" or "my parents failed utterly".


I'm not necessarily a shitty person (well, not always, anyways), and actually, it wasn't my parents to blame.

It was literally every single adult authority figure to blame (teachers, coaches, etc).

Anyways, believe what you want about me, but I know what I am and I don't care what you think. If I did, I'd be asking you some bullshit like "how do I get better?"

Oh no. No, no, no, a thousand times no. If you have a personality disorder, that is one thing. You can't blame anyone for that, it happens. But if you're going around blaming people for your actions and for your behavior, that's a cop-out. You can blame a teacher for causing you some sort of pain, certainly. But you can't blame your teachers and coaches and parents for the way you act towards women. They might have promoted a certain mindset, and it might not have been healthy, but in the end, it all comes back to you. And emotional and mental maturity is realizing this: that YOU are responsible for YOUR actions.
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Postby Anastasia » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:43 pm

Yorkers wrote:
Luminesa wrote:...I'm almost 21 and I still have the mind of a 12-year-old, most of the time...lol...


Repealing child labor laws would fix this quickly.

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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:43 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I laughed for a long time when someone got kicked in the balls...on the television. I think I'm a child at heart.


Yep! I love watching failarmy on YouTube. :lol2:


Yo, that shit is fucking funny. Then I look at the comment sections and realize 99% of the viewers are 12.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:44 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Same. I'll still gigglefit over stupid shit.

I think the association of such things with childhood is a sign of having a really shitty adulthood.


Getting older is mandatory. Growing up is optional.

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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:44 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
That's about as valid as me saying: because you're religious, you are not qualified to speak on LGBT issues and relationships, and have no business developing social policy regarding them.

No it isn't, because relationships are founded on romantic feelings. If you do not understand what a romantic feeling is, you are not qualified to develop a social policy with romantic relationships in-mind.


And LGBT issues/marriage are based on things LGBT people experience with each other and with themselves. Because you are religious and are therefor incapable of seeing things from their perspective, that means you have no place speaking on LGBT people, their relationships or making policies regarding them.

How am I wrong in my statement if you are right in yours?

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Postby Gauliscia » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:44 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Gauliscia wrote:Lmao! Is that the extent of your illness?


I honestly don't know where it begins or ends, I just go through life doing my best to pretend to be normal IRL and hope for the best.

And if I'm about to get in trouble, I bring out the fake tears and call my accuser a liar. Works every time (in my experience so far).

But does that not pull on your conscience? To actively deceive people?
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:45 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I think the association of such things with childhood is a sign of having a really shitty adulthood.


Getting older is mandatory. Growing up is optional.


Basically. I can be a mature, "older" person when I need to. But I can be a fun loving child when I want to.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:45 pm

The V O I D wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:If you have to ask that question, you are not qualified to speak on anything about romantic relationships, and have no business developing social policy regarding them.


That's about as valid as me saying: because you're religious, you are not qualified to speak on LGBT issues and relationships, and have no business developing social policy regarding them.

That is not equal AT ALL. Religion does not equal emotional or personality disorders. And most relationships throughout history have been formed by religion and religious views on relationships.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:45 pm

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United Marxist Nations wrote:No it isn't, because relationships are founded on romantic feelings. If you do not understand what a romantic feeling is, you are not qualified to develop a social policy with romantic relationships in-mind.


And LGBT issues/marriage are based on things LGBT people experience with each other and with themselves. Because you are religious and are therefor incapable of seeing things from their perspective, that means you have no place speaking on LGBT people, their relationships or making policies regarding them.

How am I wrong in my statement if you are right in yours?

The reasons behind LGBT relationships and behind straight relationships are fundamentally the same.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:45 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:Getting older is mandatory. Growing up is optional.

Growing up is accepting the weight of the world. Letting it drag you down is the mistake too many make.
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:46 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
I'm not necessarily a shitty person (well, not always, anyways), and actually, it wasn't my parents to blame.

It was literally every single adult authority figure to blame (teachers, coaches, etc).

Anyways, believe what you want about me, but I know what I am and I don't care what you think. If I did, I'd be asking you some bullshit like "how do I get better?"

Oh no. No, no, no, a thousand times no. If you have a personality disorder, that is one thing. You can't blame anyone for that, it happens. But if you're going around blaming people for your actions and for your behavior, that's a cop-out. You can blame a teacher for causing you some sort of pain, certainly. But you can't blame your teachers and coaches and parents for the way you act towards women. They might have promoted a certain mindset, and it might not have been healthy, but in the end, it all comes back to you. And emotional and mental maturity is realizing this: that YOU are responsible for YOUR actions.


To be fair, I have a genetic history of mental illness (schizophrenia, alzheimer's, among others) combined with a really shitty environment growing up (outside of home, that is; that wasn't as shitty).

I feel as though putting all the blame on me is unfair because I didn't exactly choose this, but then again, I don't care anymore. I stopped caring years ago.

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:46 pm

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United Marxist Nations wrote:No it isn't, because relationships are founded on romantic feelings. If you do not understand what a romantic feeling is, you are not qualified to develop a social policy with romantic relationships in-mind.


And LGBT issues/marriage are based on things LGBT people experience with each other and with themselves. Because you are religious and are therefor incapable of seeing things from their perspective, that means you have no place speaking on LGBT people, their relationships or making policies regarding them.

How am I wrong in my statement if you are right in yours?

Religious does not equal 'not homosexual' or 'not bi'.
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and the greatest is love."
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:48 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
And LGBT issues/marriage are based on things LGBT people experience with each other and with themselves. Because you are religious and are therefor incapable of seeing things from their perspective, that means you have no place speaking on LGBT people, their relationships or making policies regarding them.

How am I wrong in my statement if you are right in yours?

The reasons behind LGBT relationships and behind straight relationships are fundamentally the same.


It's whatever, fam. I gave up trying to understand your logic the literal moment 'god' entered the equation.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:48 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
I'm not necessarily a shitty person (well, not always, anyways), and actually, it wasn't my parents to blame.

It was literally every single adult authority figure to blame (teachers, coaches, etc).

Anyways, believe what you want about me, but I know what I am and I don't care what you think. If I did, I'd be asking you some bullshit like "how do I get better?"

Oh no. No, no, no, a thousand times no. If you have a personality disorder, that is one thing. You can't blame anyone for that, it happens. But if you're going around blaming people for your actions and for your behavior, that's a cop-out. You can blame a teacher for causing you some sort of pain, certainly. But you can't blame your teachers and coaches and parents for the way you act towards women. They might have promoted a certain mindset, and it might not have been healthy, but in the end, it all comes back to you. And emotional and mental maturity is realizing this: that YOU are responsible for YOUR actions.


I'm bipolar. Given, the stigma towards bipolar people is that we're emotionally unstable (it gets confused a lot with borderline). All it means is that I have moment of horrible depression, and then horrendous highs where I feel like I can do anything. The cycling happens without warning somewhat, and it can get someone, unmedicated, into a lot of trouble. (You become very impulsive when manic, as an example) I don't blame anyone else but my brain for not knowing what the fuck it's suppose to be doing. Beyond that, I'm apologetic, and acknowledge that I can still be a cunt despite my illness. People that use their illness as a shield from criticism are why we're stigmatised the way we are.

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