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If you could ensure the survival of one empire at their height, which would it be?

1 - The German Empire
93
19%
2 - The French Empire
30
6%
3 - The Spanish Empire
24
5%
4 - The British Empire
117
24%
5 - The Mongol Empire
17
3%
6 - The Abbasid Caliphate
22
4%
7 - The Roman Empire
120
24%
8 - The Qing Dynasty
12
2%
9 - Imperial Japan
14
3%
10 - The Russian Empire
48
10%
 
Total votes : 497

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Postby Yorkers » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:34 pm

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The V O I D wrote:Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.

...Never have children. :blink:


To be honest, it does seem like another psuedomedical, postmodern bullshit diagnosis for "I'm a shitty person" or "my parents failed utterly".
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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:34 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
Because it's fun to experiment on people. I consider all my interactions, on or offline, experiments.

And I'm a sadistic sonofabitch.



1. Yeah, honestly, I don't. I'd still go through the motions and pretend and all that to see if I can get her back (depending on how fun she was and how well I liked her), and if it proves fruitless, I'll just move right on after a few days.

2. Still, though. People being in love with multiple people is possible. I've had like 5 different "interests" at once, at one point.


Having an "interest" in someone isn't being in-love with them.

@conscientia:
The social aspect of relationships can indeed be related to Right Wing ideology, which often involves discussion of social cohesion.


Especially since social cohesion in some Right-wing ideology focuses on the premise that Society is Family.

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Postby -Fahrong- » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:35 pm

Yorkers wrote:
The V O I D wrote:It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions


*deskslam*

Reading this makes me miss the days when people didn't talk about their emotions and you were expected to act like an adult by the time you were 12.

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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:35 pm

Yorkers wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
1. I can have feelings for multiple people, and be attracted to multiple people.


Christ dude. Sleeping around doesn't mean you're in love with those people.


What's the difference?

The Princes of the Universe wrote:
The V O I D wrote:Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.

...Never have children. :blink:


But then my bloodline won't propagate. I can't have that. After all, who's going to carry on my legacy if I die before being able to become a synth? Gotta have contingencies, man.

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:35 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Luminesa wrote:If you decide dedication is unnecessary to a relationship, then you probably won't hold any relationships for long. Especially not one with Scylla. Anyway, that doesn't cut the apparent fact that you see women as food. It takes a lot more dedication to hold a relationship with someone than it does to go to a restaurant, hand over your money, and to eat food. The only way you could say they don't is if you see holding a relationship with a girl as equal to going and buying a burger. Which I find highly disrespectful and disgusting, and I think you owe Scylla an apology.


Hey now, I'm sure I'd put Maccas to shame. With extra-cheese, of course.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:36 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Hey now, I'm sure I'd put Maccas to shame. With extra-cheese, of course.

I say you're priceless! :3


Well, aren't you adorbs! :hug:

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Postby Gauliscia » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:36 pm

Yorkers wrote:
The V O I D wrote:It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions


*deskslam*

Reading this makes me miss the days when people didn't talk about their emotions and you were expected to act like an adult by the time you were 12.

^This so much! So much!
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:36 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
Because it's fun to experiment on people. I consider all my interactions, on or offline, experiments.

And I'm a sadistic sonofabitch.



1. Yeah, honestly, I don't. I'd still go through the motions and pretend and all that to see if I can get her back (depending on how fun she was and how well I liked her), and if it proves fruitless, I'll just move right on after a few days.

2. Still, though. People being in love with multiple people is possible. I've had like 5 different "interests" at once, at one point.


Having an "interest" in someone isn't being in-love with them.

@conscientia:
The social aspect of relationships can indeed be related to Right Wing ideology, which often involves discussion of social cohesion.



Bah, it's close enough for me.

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Postby Conscentia » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:36 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:@conscientia:
The social aspect of relationships can indeed be related to Right Wing ideology, which often involves discussion of social cohesion.

Excuses. You're not talking about any of it in a relevant way at all. All of this is an off-topic tangent upon on a off-topic tangent.

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Postby The Kievan People » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:36 pm

Yorkers wrote:To be honest, it does seem like another psuedomedical, postmodern bullshit diagnosis for "I'm a shitty person" or "my parents failed utterly".


Yup.

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Postby Mattopilos » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:36 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Yorkers wrote:
Christ dude. Sleeping around doesn't mean you're in love with those people.


What's the difference?

The Princes of the Universe wrote:...Never have children. :blink:


But then my bloodline won't propagate. I can't have that. After all, who's going to carry on my legacy if I die before being able to become a synth? Gotta have contingencies, man.


Well, romantic and sexual feelings aren't the same. They coincide much of the time, but not the same thing overall. So no, 'sleeping around' could easily mean just sexual, rather than romantic, feelings.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:37 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Yorkers wrote:
Christ dude. Sleeping around doesn't mean you're in love with those people.


What's the difference?

This is why you shouldn't set social policy on relationships. You clearly don't understand what loving a woman is if you think it is just sleeping around with them.
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Postby Yorkers » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:37 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Yorkers wrote:
Christ dude. Sleeping around doesn't mean you're in love with those people.


What's the difference?


Are you actually asking?
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:37 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I say you're priceless! :3


Well, aren't you adorbs! :hug:

Daw, thank you! Girls stick-up for each other! :hug:
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:38 pm

The V O I D wrote:CM gets it.

Don't agree with me.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:38 pm

Yorkers wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
What's the difference?


Are you actually asking?


Physical attraction that drives us too hook up and love are two totally different things.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:38 pm

Conscentia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:@conscientia:
The social aspect of relationships can indeed be related to Right Wing ideology, which often involves discussion of social cohesion.

Excuses. You're not talking about any of it in a relevant way at all. All of this is an off-topic tangent upon on a off-topic tangent.

I would say opposition to polygamy is relevant to Right Wing ideology. If I have to take a roundabout way to explain why it is wrong, that is irrelevant to the point of the arguments.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:38 pm

Gauliscia wrote:
Yorkers wrote:
*deskslam*

Reading this makes me miss the days when people didn't talk about their emotions and you were expected to act like an adult by the time you were 12.

^This so much! So much!

...I'm almost 21 and I still have the mind of a 12-year-old, most of the time...lol...
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:39 pm

Yorkers wrote:
The Princes of the Universe wrote:...Never have children. :blink:


To be honest, it does seem like another psuedomedical, postmodern bullshit diagnosis for "I'm a shitty person" or "my parents failed utterly".


I'm not necessarily a shitty person (well, not always, anyways), and actually, it wasn't my parents to blame.

It was literally every single adult authority figure to blame (teachers, coaches, etc).

Anyways, believe what you want about me, but I know what I am and I don't care what you think. If I did, I'd be asking you some bullshit like "how do I get better?"

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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:39 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:I would say opposition to polygamy is relevant to Right Wing ideology. If I have to take a roundabout way to explain why it is wrong, that is irrelevant to the point of the arguments.

Right-wing Muslims et co are often very fine with polygamy. The further right, the more okay, very often.
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:39 pm

Yorkers wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
What's the difference?


Are you actually asking?


Yes. What's the difference? I don't get it.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:39 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Gauliscia wrote:^This so much! So much!

...I'm almost 21 and I still have the mind of a 12-year-old, most of the time...lol...


Same. I'll still gigglefit over stupid shit.

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Postby Gauliscia » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:40 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Gauliscia wrote:^This so much! So much!

...I'm almost 21 and I still have the mind of a 12-year-old, most of the time...lol...

Well, I still embrace elements of my waning youth... But as long as you can make polite conversation, pass the port and play rugby then you're made of the right stuff and that's all good and proper.
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:40 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The V O I D wrote:CM gets it.

Don't agree with me.


Then don't say things I may agree with.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:40 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Yorkers wrote:
Are you actually asking?


Yes. What's the difference? I don't get it.

If you have to ask that question, you are not qualified to speak on anything about romantic relationships, and have no business developing social policy regarding them.
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