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If you could ensure the survival of one empire at their height, which would it be?

1 - The German Empire
93
19%
2 - The French Empire
30
6%
3 - The Spanish Empire
24
5%
4 - The British Empire
117
24%
5 - The Mongol Empire
17
3%
6 - The Abbasid Caliphate
22
4%
7 - The Roman Empire
120
24%
8 - The Qing Dynasty
12
2%
9 - Imperial Japan
14
3%
10 - The Russian Empire
48
10%
 
Total votes : 497

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:21 pm

The V O I D wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:1) Again, you do not have personal feelings for that person. You do not have a loving relationship with them.

2) And that's why we don't let you decide what society does, because you brag about being emotionally defective.


1. I can have feelings for multiple people, and be attracted to multiple people. Limiting myself in light of that makes zero logical sense.

2. Too bad non-sociopaths agree with me in some cases about marriage equality and all that (but for different reasons, sometimes), meaning my opinion can't be voided for being 'emotionally defective'.

1) If you're a sociopath, as you claim, since when?

2) They agree with you because they selfishly just want to fuck whoever.
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:22 pm

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It died when it was decided to be time to give gays the rights to marry.

And 'one person plus one person' died (to me) when I decided dedication was unnecessary, especially if I'm unsatisfied.



No. I see the necessary dedication to a single person you're in a relationship with as equivalent to that owed to restaurants that you enjoy eating at.



1. What if I subscribe as a 'dedicated customer' or am otherwise involved with the restaurant, or am an employee there? That should let them have 'trust in me', yet I still only owe them the same level of dedication.

2. See, as a sociopathic individual, I don't see the point in commitment and all that other stuff. Seems like a bunch of hokey.

1. If you decide dedication is unnecessary to a relationship, then you probably won't hold any relationships for long. 2. Especially not one with Scylla.


1. Not to be rude but, like... do you honestly think I care if a relationship lasts long as long as I get what I want or need from it at that time?

2. I'm over it.

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Postby Anastasia » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:23 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
It died when it was decided to be time to give gays the rights to marry.

And 'one person plus one person' died (to me) when I decided dedication was unnecessary, especially if I'm unsatisfied.



No. I see the necessary dedication to a single person you're in a relationship with as equivalent to that owed to restaurants that you enjoy eating at.



1. What if I subscribe as a 'dedicated customer' or am otherwise involved with the restaurant, or am an employee there? That should let them have 'trust in me', yet I still only owe them the same level of dedication.

2. See, as a sociopathic individual, I don't see the point in commitment and all that other stuff. Seems like a bunch of hokey.

If you decide dedication is unnecessary to a relationship, then you probably won't hold any relationships for long. Especially not one with Scylla.

Anyway, that doesn't cut the fact that you see women as food.


One could say he hasn't had one.
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:23 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The V O I D wrote:1. I can have feelings for multiple people, and be attracted to multiple people. Limiting myself in light of that makes zero logical sense.
2. Too bad non-sociopaths agree with me in some cases about marriage equality and all that (but for different reasons, sometimes), meaning my opinion can't be voided for being 'emotionally defective'.

1) If you're a sociopath, as you claim, since when?
2) They agree with you because they selfishly just want to fuck whoever.

Preach it, brother! :clap:
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Postby Gauliscia » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:24 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Luminesa wrote:1. If you decide dedication is unnecessary to a relationship, then you probably won't hold any relationships for long. 2. Especially not one with Scylla.


1. Not to be rude but, like... do you honestly think I care if a relationship lasts long as long as I get what I want or need from it at that time?

2. I'm over it.

Good Lord... :?
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:25 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
1. I can have feelings for multiple people, and be attracted to multiple people. Limiting myself in light of that makes zero logical sense.

2. Too bad non-sociopaths agree with me in some cases about marriage equality and all that (but for different reasons, sometimes), meaning my opinion can't be voided for being 'emotionally defective'.

1) If you're a sociopath, as you claim, since when?

2) They agree with you because they selfishly just want to fuck whoever.


1. Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.

2. If gay people are being selfish for wanting to be with who they love just like straight people, then, yeah, sure.

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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:26 pm

Anastasia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:If you decide dedication is unnecessary to a relationship, then you probably won't hold any relationships for long. Especially not one with Scylla.

Anyway, that doesn't cut the fact that you see women as food.


One could say he hasn't had one.


I haven't, yet. But, I don't care if I ever get one. I'll be fine being a drifter.

Gauliscia wrote:
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1. Not to be rude but, like... do you honestly think I care if a relationship lasts long as long as I get what I want or need from it at that time?

2. I'm over it.

Good Lord... :?


What? Too harsh?

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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:26 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:If you're in love with someone, you won't go behind their back to score with someone else, so that is not why people have affairs; the reason people have affairs is because they are bad people.

In open relationships, you don't go behind their back.
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Postby The Kievan People » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:26 pm

The V O I D wrote:Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.


Maybe this is why those kids keep beating you up.
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Postby Gauliscia » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:26 pm

The V O I D wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:1) If you're a sociopath, as you claim, since when?

2) They agree with you because they selfishly just want to fuck whoever.


1. Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.

2. If gay people are being selfish for wanting to be with who they love just like straight people, then, yeah, sure.

Are you kidding me? You do that? That is most unpleasant, with all due respect. Why?!
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:27 pm

The V O I D wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:1) If you're a sociopath, as you claim, since when?

2) They agree with you because they selfishly just want to fuck whoever.


1. Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.

2. If gay people are being selfish for wanting to be with who they love just like straight people, then, yeah, sure.

1) Like I said, then, that means you don't give a shit if you hurt someone you "love", which you already said you thought was ridiculous.

2) Don't shift the topic, we're talking about polygamy.
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:28 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
The V O I D wrote:Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.


Maybe this is why those kids keep beating you up.


I'm not bullied anymore. I haven't been since I picked up one of my bullies and tossed him across the hall.

Fake-cried my way out of that one, too.

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Postby Southerly Gentleman » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:28 pm

The V O I D wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:1) If you're a sociopath, as you claim, since when?

2) They agree with you because they selfishly just want to fuck whoever.


1. Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.

2. If gay people are being selfish for wanting to be with who they love just like straight people, then, yeah, sure.

what good sociopath would out themselves on purpose?
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Postby The Kievan People » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:29 pm

The V O I D wrote:I'm not bullied anymore. I haven't been since I picked up one of my bullies and tossed him across the hall.

Fake-cried my way out of that one, too.


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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:29 pm

The V O I D wrote: Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.

That kind of behavior is known as 'grade A shitheaddery'. I'd advise you to stop.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:29 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
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(Which ASPD people don't do)

>.>

Yeah, people who pretend to have mental illnesses because it is "cool and edgy" are terrible.


People with ASPD have little to no empathy what-so-ever. The only reason they don't get into trouble a whole lot is simply because they don't want to be in prison. Things such as morality, relationships, and the like are a foreign concept, and the only reason they form bonds with people is for manipulation to achieve some benefit. My friend, who does have ASPD, likes me around simply for chatting because I'm "not annoying". About the only thing we talk about are things relating to philosophy, morality, and the like. Beyond that, however, she has little interest in me like a normal relationship -- out of courtesy, she does wish I have a painless death. So woo!

There's also the point that socipathy and psychopathy aren't, and never have been formal diagnoses. You get diagnosed with ASPD. The distinction between the two terms was suggested in psychology to attempt to differentiate between conditioned ASPD, and ASPD as the result of genetic deficiencies. (Sociopaths are made, Psychopaths are born) It's largely been rejected because of the nuances associated with the condition and the difficulty in treatment means there's little reason to separate the two. Beyond that, ASPD people live normal lives to an extent -- the problem are those that step over the line and become serial killers or whatnot. They're masters at feigned social reciprocity, and despite the myth around them, they are not always wickedly intelligent or witty. They are aware of their condition in most cases though, and given stigma, don't out themselves.

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Postby -Fahrong- » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:29 pm

The V O I D wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:1) If you're a sociopath, as you claim, since when?

2) They agree with you because they selfishly just want to fuck whoever.


1. Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.

2. If gay people are being selfish for wanting to be with who they love just like straight people, then, yeah, sure.

M8, I have ASPD, I know what its like but sheesh, you certainly are the unredeeming side that gives us a bad name.
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Postby Yorkers » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:29 pm

The V O I D wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:1) Again, you do not have personal feelings for that person. You do not have a loving relationship with them.

2) And that's why we don't let you decide what society does, because you brag about being emotionally defective.


1. I can have feelings for multiple people, and be attracted to multiple people.


Christ dude. Sleeping around doesn't mean you're in love with those people.
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:30 pm

The V O I D wrote:Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.

...Never have children. :blink:
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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:30 pm

Luminesa wrote:
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It died when it was decided to be time to give gays the rights to marry.

And 'one person plus one person' died (to me) when I decided dedication was unnecessary, especially if I'm unsatisfied.



No. I see the necessary dedication to a single person you're in a relationship with as equivalent to that owed to restaurants that you enjoy eating at.



1. What if I subscribe as a 'dedicated customer' or am otherwise involved with the restaurant, or am an employee there? That should let them have 'trust in me', yet I still only owe them the same level of dedication.

2. See, as a sociopathic individual, I don't see the point in commitment and all that other stuff. Seems like a bunch of hokey.

If you decide dedication is unnecessary to a relationship, then you probably won't hold any relationships for long. Especially not one with Scylla. Anyway, that doesn't cut the apparent fact that you see women as food. It takes a lot more dedication to hold a relationship with someone than it does to go to a restaurant, hand over your money, and to eat food. The only way you could say they don't is if you see holding a relationship with a girl as equal to going and buying a burger. Which I find highly disrespectful and disgusting, and I think you owe Scylla an apology.


Hey now, I'm sure I'd put Maccas to shame. With extra-cheese, of course.


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Postby The V O I D » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:31 pm

Gauliscia wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
1. Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.

2. If gay people are being selfish for wanting to be with who they love just like straight people, then, yeah, sure.

Are you kidding me? You do that? That is most unpleasant, with all due respect. Why?!


Because it's fun to experiment on people. I consider all my interactions, on or offline, experiments.

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The V O I D wrote:
1. Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.

2. If gay people are being selfish for wanting to be with who they love just like straight people, then, yeah, sure.

1) Like I said, then, that means you don't give a shit if you hurt someone you "love", which you already said you thought was ridiculous.

2) Don't shift the topic, we're talking about polygamy.


1. Yeah, honestly, I don't. I'd still go through the motions and pretend and all that to see if I can get her back (depending on how fun she was and how well I liked her), and if it proves fruitless, I'll just move right on after a few days.

2. Still, though. People being in love with multiple people is possible. I've had like 5 different "interests" at once, at one point.

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United Marxist Nations wrote:If you're in love with someone, you won't go behind their back to score with someone else, so that is not why people have affairs; the reason people have affairs is because they are bad people.

In open relationships, you don't go behind their back.


CM gets it.

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Postby Gauliscia » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:31 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The V O I D wrote: Sociopathy / ASPD means I don't do empathy/sympathy/remorse, and that I lie, cheat, steal or whatever else to get whatever it is I want. It does not mean I don't feel emotions. It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions, as I couldn't rely on empathy/sympathy/natural remorse to tell me how to do so. I'm actually really, really good at fake-crying if a situation calls for it.

That kind of behavior is known as 'grade A shitheaddery'. I'd advise you to stop.

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Postby Yorkers » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:33 pm

The V O I D wrote:It just means I register them and process them differently from other people because I had to learn on my own how to do emotions


*deskslam*

Reading this makes me miss the days when people didn't talk about their emotions and you were expected to act like an adult by the time you were 12.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:33 pm

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Gauliscia wrote:Are you kidding me? You do that? That is most unpleasant, with all due respect. Why?!


Because it's fun to experiment on people. I consider all my interactions, on or offline, experiments.

And I'm a sadistic sonofabitch.

United Marxist Nations wrote:1) Like I said, then, that means you don't give a shit if you hurt someone you "love", which you already said you thought was ridiculous.

2) Don't shift the topic, we're talking about polygamy.


1. Yeah, honestly, I don't. I'd still go through the motions and pretend and all that to see if I can get her back (depending on how fun she was and how well I liked her), and if it proves fruitless, I'll just move right on after a few days.

2. Still, though. People being in love with multiple people is possible. I've had like 5 different "interests" at once, at one point.


Having an "interest" in someone isn't being in-love with them.

@conscientia:
The social aspect of relationships can indeed be related to Right Wing ideology, which often involves discussion of social cohesion.
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