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If you could ensure the survival of one empire at their height, which would it be?

1 - The German Empire
93
19%
2 - The French Empire
30
6%
3 - The Spanish Empire
24
5%
4 - The British Empire
117
24%
5 - The Mongol Empire
17
3%
6 - The Abbasid Caliphate
22
4%
7 - The Roman Empire
120
24%
8 - The Qing Dynasty
12
2%
9 - Imperial Japan
14
3%
10 - The Russian Empire
48
10%
 
Total votes : 497

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Honestly, if the GOP was filled with people like Jeb!, Rand, and Lindsey Graham, I'd actually consider voting for them. Twenty years ago I might've. I'm no advocate of small government, but I can appreciate the principle behind combating government waste and cutting down on red tape to streamline the economy and relieve the burden on the citizenry wherever practical.

But now Rubio is part of the moderate wing of the party, Cruz is mainstream, and Trump is president-elect.
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Oh fuck RWDT.

I just realized what will happen if Michelle Obama runs in 2020.

If you criticize her, you're not only sexist, you're also a racist.

Fuck, I really hope she doesn't run. I think if Joe Biden goes through with his promise to run, we should be fine.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:45 pm

Pantuxia wrote:Oh fuck RWDT.

I just realized what will happen if Michelle Obama runs in 2020.

If you criticize her, you're not only sexist, you're also a racist.

Fuck, I really hope she doesn't run. I think if Joe Biden goes through with his promise to run, we should be fine.

Well those aren't really impressive criticisms at all to be honest.
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Pantuxia wrote:Oh fuck RWDT.

I just realized what will happen if Michelle Obama runs in 2020.

If you criticize her, you're not only sexist, you're also a racist.

Fuck, I really hope she doesn't run. I think if Joe Biden goes through with his promise to run, we should be fine.

Relax. By that point, Trump's presidency will have worn out those two words to the point where they're basically meaningless.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:37 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Honestly, if the GOP was filled with people like Jeb!, Rand, and Lindsey Graham, I'd actually consider voting for them. Twenty years ago I might've. I'm no advocate of small government, but I can appreciate the principle behind combating government waste and cutting down on red tape to streamline the economy and relieve the burden on the citizenry wherever practical.

But now Rubio is part of the moderate wing of the party, Cruz is mainstream, and Trump is president-elect.

If people like Gabbard filled the Democratic Party, I'd consider voting. Despite some of her views I don't agree with at all, she is consistently anti-Globalist, Corporatist and Environmentalist. Hope she runs in 2020.

I've considered supporting Trump off and on. If he stayed consistent and stopped acting irresponsible all the time, I probably would support him.

Rubio is moderate though. And Trump is not extreme. That's mainly a fabrication of both the liberal media and a minority of his supporters
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Jochizyd Republic wrote:Rubio is moderate though.

Rubio is far from moderate by any reasonable standard. You forget he was a Tea Party spawn who opposes Roe v. Wade, wanted a balanced budget amendment, cut corporate taxes and environmental regulations, end the deptartment of education completely, climate change denier, believes in the 'liberal media' myth, interrogation in Gitmo... the list goes on and on. The only reason he's moderate now is because Cruz is now the blobby face of the radical wing of the party.
And Trump is not extreme. That's mainly a fabrication of both the liberal media and a minority of his supporters

Trump's not extreme. Trump is deluded, narcissistic, corrupt, and openly flaunts the democratic traditions of our country. But he's not extreme. I would prefer an extremist, to be honest. Pence 2016

Also 'liberal media' lol
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Pantuxia wrote:Oh fuck RWDT.

I just realized what will happen if Michelle Obama runs in 2020.

If you criticize her, you're not only sexist, you're also a racist.

Fuck, I really hope she doesn't run. I think if Joe Biden goes through with his promise to run, we should be fine.


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Postby Kravanica » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:05 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Rubio is moderate though.

Rubio is far from moderate by any reasonable standard. You forget he was a Tea Party spawn who opposes Roe v. Wade, wanted a balanced budget amendment, cut corporate taxes and environmental regulations, end the deptartment of education completely, climate change denier, believes in the 'liberal media' myth, interrogation in Gitmo... the list goes on and on. The only reason he's moderate now is because Cruz is now the blobby face of the radical wing of the party.
And Trump is not extreme. That's mainly a fabrication of both the liberal media and a minority of his supporters

Trump's not extreme. Trump is deluded, narcissistic, corrupt, and openly flaunts the democratic traditions of our country. But he's not extreme. I would prefer an extremist, to be honest. Pence 2016

Also 'liberal media' lol

"liberal media myth"

Bwahahahahaha

I guess CNN, MSNBC, PBS, CBS, The NYT, the HuffPo, etc are all figments of my imagination.

Also, why does everyone have a seizure at the thought of a balanced budget?
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:05 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Rubio is moderate though.

Rubio is far from moderate by any reasonable standard. You forget he was a Tea Party spawn who opposes Roe v. Wade, wanted a balanced budget amendment, cut corporate taxes and environmental regulations, end the deptartment of education completely, climate change denier, believes in the 'liberal media' myth, interrogation in Gitmo... the list goes on and on. The only reason he's moderate now is because Cruz is now the blobby face of the radical wing of the party.
And Trump is not extreme. That's mainly a fabrication of both the liberal media and a minority of his supporters

Trump's not extreme. Trump is deluded, narcissistic, corrupt, and openly flaunts the democratic traditions of our country. But he's not extreme. I would prefer an extremist, to be honest. Pence 2016

Also 'liberal media' lol

Most conservatives are against Roe v. Wade, though. Except Mitt Romney, who flip flops on the issues every day, to try and keep himself relevant.

Not sure what's wrong with a balanced budget amendment, though...
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Make it more corporatist and nationalist and you're good to go.

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Postby Luminesa » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:07 pm

Kravanica wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Rubio is far from moderate by any reasonable standard. You forget he was a Tea Party spawn who opposes Roe v. Wade, wanted a balanced budget amendment, cut corporate taxes and environmental regulations, end the deptartment of education completely, climate change denier, believes in the 'liberal media' myth, interrogation in Gitmo... the list goes on and on. The only reason he's moderate now is because Cruz is now the blobby face of the radical wing of the party.

Trump's not extreme. Trump is deluded, narcissistic, corrupt, and openly flaunts the democratic traditions of our country. But he's not extreme. I would prefer an extremist, to be honest. Pence 2016

Also 'liberal media' lol

"liberal media myth"

Bwahahahahaha

I guess CNN, MSNBC, PBS, CBS, The NYT, the HuffPo, etc are all figments of my imagination.

Also, why does everyone have a seizure at the thought of a balanced budget?

MSNBC is so liberal it's tangible.

As is HuffPo.

CNN is kind of a mix.
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Postby Sanctissima » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:10 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Rubio is moderate though.

Rubio is far from moderate by any reasonable standard. You forget he was a Tea Party spawn who opposes Roe v. Wade, wanted a balanced budget amendment, cut corporate taxes and environmental regulations, end the deptartment of education completely, climate change denier, believes in the 'liberal media' myth, interrogation in Gitmo... the list goes on and on. The only reason he's moderate now is because Cruz is now the blobby face of the radical wing of the party.
And Trump is not extreme. That's mainly a fabrication of both the liberal media and a minority of his supporters

Trump's not extreme. Trump is deluded, narcissistic, corrupt, and openly flaunts the democratic traditions of our country. But he's not extreme. I would prefer an extremist, to be honest. Pence 2016

Also 'liberal media' lol


Yeah... at least in the case of the US, the whole 'liberal media' thing is quite true.

I mean, aside from FOX and Breitbart, there really is no mainstream American conservative media. The rest is pretty much all explicitly liberal.

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Postby Sanctissima » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:12 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Kravanica wrote:"liberal media myth"

Bwahahahahaha

I guess CNN, MSNBC, PBS, CBS, The NYT, the HuffPo, etc are all figments of my imagination.

Also, why does everyone have a seizure at the thought of a balanced budget?

MSNBC is so liberal it's tangible.

As is HuffPo.

CNN is kind of a mix.


Really?

Personally, I've always been under the impression that CNN is the liberal doppelganger of FOX News. Both seem to be the epitome of political bias in their respective corners of the Left-Right spectrum.

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Sanctissima wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Rubio is far from moderate by any reasonable standard. You forget he was a Tea Party spawn who opposes Roe v. Wade, wanted a balanced budget amendment, cut corporate taxes and environmental regulations, end the deptartment of education completely, climate change denier, believes in the 'liberal media' myth, interrogation in Gitmo... the list goes on and on. The only reason he's moderate now is because Cruz is now the blobby face of the radical wing of the party.

Trump's not extreme. Trump is deluded, narcissistic, corrupt, and openly flaunts the democratic traditions of our country. But he's not extreme. I would prefer an extremist, to be honest. Pence 2016

Also 'liberal media' lol


Yeah... at least in the case of the US, the whole 'liberal media' thing is quite true.

I mean, aside from FOX and Breitbart, there really is no mainstream American conservative media. The rest is pretty much all explicitly liberal.

And Breitbart is not that mainstream. Where I live anyway, if you bring up Fox you get laughed out of the room. So in the Northeast there is actually no conservative mainstream news.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:18 pm

Kravanica wrote:"liberal media myth"

Bwahahahahaha

I guess CNN, MSNBC, PBS, CBS, The NYT, the HuffPo, etc are all figments of my imagination.

MSNBC, CBS, HuffPo.

Literally all the rest aren't liberal, and the fact that you think they are says a lot about you, your views, and your persecution complex.
Also, why does everyone have a seizure at the thought of a balanced budget?

Because balanced budgets are untenable. I could go into detail, but I feel like it'd be wasted here.
Luminesa wrote:Most conservatives are against Roe v. Wade, though. Except Mitt Romney, who flip flops on the issues every day, to try and keep himself relevant.

Nyet, tovarisch. Most conservatives are pro-life. There's a difference. Most conservatives aren't chomping at the bit to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Not sure what's wrong with a balanced budget amendment, though...

Effectively, a balanced budget amendment neuters the government's ability to extend itself in times of crisis. Tell me, when a national crisis happens, what do you do? Depends on the crisis, naturally, but a crisis is rarely cheap. WW2, recessions, ISIS, etc. When a recession rolls around, do you think that's a good time to jack taxes UP? Or cut services that will be needed more than ever in an economic downturn? When we go to war, if the government can't collect the money to fund the machine, do we just sit back and twiddle our thumbs? Scrap D-Day - it's too expensive?

There's a reason 'fiscal hawks' have such a terrible record in comparison to us big-government liberals. We understand, or at least the people we elect are part of a party that understands, basic government theory past the 17th century.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:19 pm

Sanctissima wrote:Yeah... at least in the case of the US, the whole 'liberal media' thing is quite true.

I mean, aside from FOX and Breitbart, there really is no mainstream American conservative media. The rest is pretty much all explicitly liberal.

I keep forgetting reality has a well-known liberal bias.

Do you ever stop to think that, as you see every other major news source in America as being biased against you, that it's more likely that you're wrong than it is that the shadowy cabal of (((media))) came together to plot to stomp those conservatives out?

People have preferences for their news. News is generally biased. But to pretend that it's overwhelmingly liberal is just a persecution complex.
Sanctissima wrote:Really?

Personally, I've always been under the impression that CNN is the liberal doppelganger of FOX News. Both seem to be the epitome of political bias in their respective corners of the Left-Right spectrum.

You've got to be kidding me.

CNN is the most center-right inoffensive milquetoast piece of shit media outlet there is.
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Postby Yoshida (Ancient) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:20 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Rubio is moderate though.

Rubio is far from moderate by any reasonable standard. You forget he was a Tea Party spawn who opposes Roe v. Wade, wanted a balanced budget amendment, cut corporate taxes and environmental regulations, end the deptartment of education completely, climate change denier, believes in the 'liberal media' myth, interrogation in Gitmo... the list goes on and on. The only reason he's moderate now is because Cruz is now the blobby face of the radical wing of the party.


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Postby Sanctissima » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:24 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:Yeah... at least in the case of the US, the whole 'liberal media' thing is quite true.

I mean, aside from FOX and Breitbart, there really is no mainstream American conservative media. The rest is pretty much all explicitly liberal.

I keep forgetting reality has a well-known liberal bias.
Sanctissima wrote:Really?

Personally, I've always been under the impression that CNN is the liberal doppelganger of FOX News. Both seem to be the epitome of political bias in their respective corners of the Left-Right spectrum.

You've got to be kidding me.

CNN is the most center-right inoffensive milquetoast piece of shit media outlet there is.


Oh BS.

All they do is read a bunch of tweets and act as outrageously as FOX News, just with a liberal agenda instead of a conservative one. The two news channels are par for par on petty trite, low journalistic standards and generally making asses of themselves. The only difference between the two is their political ideologies.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:25 pm

Sanctissima wrote:Oh BS.

All they do is read a bunch of tweets and act as outrageously as FOX News, just with a liberal agenda instead of a conservative one. The two news channels are par for par on petty trite, low journalistic standards an generally making asses of themselves. The only difference between the two is their political ideologies.

Yeah. Fox News is American right. CNN is American center-right. They aren't even particularly centrist. They pussyfoot around conservatives even in their editorials.
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Postby Italios » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:25 pm

Pantuxia wrote:Oh fuck RWDT.

I just realized what will happen if Michelle Obama runs in 2020.

If you criticize her, you're not only sexist, you're also a racist.

Fuck, I really hope she doesn't run. I think if Joe Biden goes through with his promise to run, we should be fine.

A combination of those two things exists and it's called misogynoir. I understand everyone is wary of use of any terms that call out one's intolerance, but most presidential elects are going to face some kind of attack on their identity and I wouldn't be surprised if that happened to Michelle. After all, Obama faced - and still faces - a lot of scrutiny about his birthplace because he's black. Ted Cruz also got attacked for supposedly being a Canadian citizen.

I'd like a Biden run but he's old and has been through a lot. On the other hand, he seems like a really awesome guy and we don't have a lot of awesome guys in Washington.
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Postby Italios » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:28 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:Oh BS.

All they do is read a bunch of tweets and act as outrageously as FOX News, just with a liberal agenda instead of a conservative one. The two news channels are par for par on petty trite, low journalistic standards an generally making asses of themselves. The only difference between the two is their political ideologies.

Yeah. Fox News is American right. CNN is American center-right. They aren't even particularly centrist. They pussyfoot around conservatives even in their editorials.

I think CNN happened to tilt more towards the Democratic ("liberal") side was simply because of Trump's many wild, difficult-to-defend antics. One thing I do like about CNN is that they're open to hearing both sides of an argument. They do challenge a lot of statements from guest speakers, but that's hardly a bias. That's simply trying to bring light to the truth when a lie is suspected.
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