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Right Wing Discussion Thread VII: As Easy As Reich Two Three

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

If you could ensure the survival of one empire at their height, which would it be?

1 - The German Empire
93
19%
2 - The French Empire
30
6%
3 - The Spanish Empire
24
5%
4 - The British Empire
117
24%
5 - The Mongol Empire
17
3%
6 - The Abbasid Caliphate
22
4%
7 - The Roman Empire
120
24%
8 - The Qing Dynasty
12
2%
9 - Imperial Japan
14
3%
10 - The Russian Empire
48
10%
 
Total votes : 497

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Right Wing Discussion Thread VII: As Easy As Reich Two Three

Postby Herskerstad » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:30 am

This is a palace coup, stay calm and carry on as normal services will be resumed shortly.

Welcome to RWDT where reactionaries, conservatives, the borg and all those other . . . things . . . come to dicuss topics appertaining to this force only equalled by gravity. This thread firmly takes it's authority from the eternally glorious past and now installed as the president for life it is my promise that we will make RWDT Great Again.

To quote the authorities of the past there are certain things which should be kept in mind when posting in this thread.

Acceptable topics for discussion:
  • Right-wing politics
  • History in the context of the topic
  • Related issues.

Thread guidelines:
  • Keep discussion on-topic. Remember this is a discussion thread about right-wing politics, not a discussion thread for right-wing people. As long as discussion topics are vaguely related to right-wing politics, it's kosher.
  • Be respectful of other posters in the thread, even if you really, really don't want to. Hell, if I can do it, you can do it.
  • As with any thread in NSG, anyone can post here, right-wing or not. That doesn't mean blatant trolling will be tolerated, of course.
  • It ought to go without saying, but all the usual NationStates forum rules still apply here, as laid out in the One Stop Rules Shop.

Predecessor Threads:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6

Polls

Poll topics will be rotated every now and then and suggestions for new polls are always welcome.

Current poll: If you could ensure the survival of one empire at their height, which would it be?
Poll 1: Is Cultural Marxism a Problem? (Jochistan) - 54% Voted Yes
Poll 2: Favourite Right-Wing Politicians? (Kauthar) - 25% voted Donald Trump
Poll 3: Favourite Right-Wing Autocrats (Unnamed Island State) - 45% voted Vladamir Putin
Poll 4: Best Right-Wing Countries (Kauthar) - Putin's Russia 21%
Poll 5: Best Right-Wing Idealogue (Legitimists)

Poll 1: What Right-Wing Ideology do you adhere to? - 55 votes for Libertarian
Poll 2 Favourite Right-Wing Economic System - 31 votes for Neoliberalism
Poll 3: Favourite Right-Wing Dictator - 18 Votes Kai Shek and Pinochet
Poll 4: Favourite Right-Wing Dictator PART 2 - David Cameron 49%
Poll 5: Prominent Right-Wing NSers/Favourite Future Right-Wing Dictator - Old Tyrannia 39 votes/29%
Poll 6: Favourite Fictional Right-Wing Dictators - Emperor Palpatine (Star Wars) 43 Votes/23%

Poll 0.1: Continue the Old Poll Y/N
Poll 1: Favourite Right-Wing Ideologies - Libertarianism/Minarchism

Poll 1: Favorite Centre-Right Parties - Republican Party (US) 39%
Poll 2: What should be the most important core value of a state ideology? Liberty 47%

Poll 1: Which piece of literature has been most significant to the development of right-wing ideology? - Reflections on the Revolution in France 68/237 (29%)
Poll 2: Favourite constitutional/government models? - US 166/528 (31%)

Poll 1: If you could reverse the outcomes of one of these events, which one would it be? - The Russian Revolution 116/343 (34%)


Take a swig of your chosen poison every time:
  • Kauthar gets banned for something.
  • Someone asks what the most right-wing category of something totally irrelevant to politics is.
  • A left-winger appears, makes a dismissive or vaguely insulting comment, then disappears without making any effort to debate.
  • Someone calls someone else a "liberal" in spite of the fact that they are blatantly not a liberal.
  • Someone attempts to impose their arbitrary and counter-intuitive definition of "right-wing" on everyone else, who are all naturally excluded by said definition.
  • A raging debate breaks out about LGBT issues.
  • OP asks for poll suggestions, promptly ignores all suggestions from people he doesn't like.
  • A left-winger enters and begins ferociously attacking a political strawman with no relevance to the previous topic of discussion.
  • A right-winger appears with views corresponding almost exactly to the above strawman, causing most other right-wingers in the thread to smash their heads against their desks repeatedly until they pass out from severe brain damage and internal bleeding.
  • Someone, not naming names UMN begins waifuposting
  • An NSG veteran reminisces about the time when the NSG Right was still respectable.
  • Conscentia questions whether a post is on topic.
  • Swallow a shekel every time "The Happy Merchant" drops a signature 'OY VEY!'
  • Dio blames Degeneracy on good ol' Rock n' Roll
  • Down a keg of blood every time Warhammer is referenced.
  • Take a swig of holy water each time there is a theological argument.
  • If anyone Joch mentions steppe empires, then put down whatever you are drinking and scream KHAN!
  • Down a pot of cotton candy every time someone uses an Anime term


The East Marches: "Are you, uh, a real rightist?"
Aelex: "Well, uh, technically... nah."
The East Marches: "Have you ever caught a leftist, like, uh, like a real supercommie?"
Grand Britannia: "Nah."
The East Marches: "Have you ever operated a helicopter?"
Minzerland: "Nah, nah..."
The East Marches: "Alright! I can see that I will have to teach you how to be rightists!


Hey!
We are the right-wing
Hey!
We are the right-wing

Now listen closely
Here's a little lesson in patriarchy
This is going down in history
If you wanna be a Rightist Number One
You have to chase a left-winger on the run
Just follow my moves, and sneak around
Be careful not to make a sound
(Shh)
(No, don't touch that!)


We are the right-wing
Hey!
We are the right-wing
We are the right-wing


Ha ha ha
Now look at this net, that I just found
When I say go, be ready to throw
Go!
(Throw it on him, not me!)
(Ugh, let's try something else)
Now watch and learn, here's the deal
The commie will slide on this banana peel!
(Ha ha ha, gasp! what are you doing!?)


Ba-ba-biddly-ba-ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
We are the right-wing
Hey!
Ba-ba-biddly-ba-ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
We are the right-wing
Ba-ba-biddly-ba-ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
We are the right-wing
Hey!
Ba-ba-biddly-ba-ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
We are the right-wing
Hey!
Hey!


RWDT, as easy as Reich Two Three . . .
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First! Yisss!

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:32 am

For the poll, obviously the Russian Revolution.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:36 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:For the poll, obviously the Russian Revolution.

I guess I'm with him.

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Postby Herskerstad » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:36 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:For the poll, obviously the Russian Revolution.


That could go to numerous factions. Be it the Duma, Tzar or White Army. Which one would then be most preferable?

Or should I say . ..

Which one is tru slav?
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As is tradition, this thread smells absolutely great! 'I love the smell of new threads!'
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Tag!
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:40 am

Giving a discussion thread meant for right-wingers of all stripes a title that obviously references Nazism seems rather inflammatory to me.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:40 am

Herskerstad wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:For the poll, obviously the Russian Revolution.


That could go to numerous factions. Be it the Duma, Tzar or White Army. Which one would then be most preferable?

The Tsars or the Duma. The Tsars simply because Nicholas II was the Cousin of the contemporary monarch as of that time IIRC. IIRC the Duma was democratic and so I would naturally gravitate towards the option.

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The Sulla of Savage Bantz is now watching over this thread.

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Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
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Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
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Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
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We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:42 am

Herskerstad wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:For the poll, obviously the Russian Revolution.


That could go to numerous factions. Be it the Duma, Tzar or White Army. Which one would then be most preferable?


Ideally the Duma, I'm not big on monarchy of any sort.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:43 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:Giving a discussion thread meant for right-wingers of all stripes a title that obviously references Nazism seems rather inflammatory to me.

If its such a big problem we could change the name of the thread.

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Postby Herskerstad » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:45 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:Giving a discussion thread meant for right-wingers of all stripes a title that obviously references Nazism seems rather inflammatory to me.


First reich was obviously incredibly Holy and Roman. What are you talking about? :p

Though seriously, it's RWDT banter and if someone is genuinely annoyed by it then I will edit it.
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Postby Kravanica » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:47 am

Russian Revolution, man. Gotta stop the commies.
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Eisarn-Ara wrote:The Sulla of Savage Bantz is now watching over this thread.

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Thank you based Sulla. You are the hero we need.
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The East Marches wrote:
Eisarn-Ara wrote:The Sulla of Savage Bantz is now watching over this thread.

(Image)


Thank you based Sulla. You are the hero we need.


Not the one we deserve, but still.
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Luminesa wrote:Tag!

*twitch* You do realize you can just bookmark a thread, right?
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WW1 reversal best reversal.
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The East Marches wrote:WW1 reversal best reversal.

[Wilhelm intensifies]
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:55 am

The East Marches wrote:WW1 reversal best reversal.



Wrong side won, I hope my great-grandfather is haunting some slav somewhere for being shit.
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Postby Herskerstad » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:55 am

The East Marches wrote:WW1 reversal best reversal.


The implications are quite severe despite so many glorious kaiserreich replays, but I was stuck between that and Taiping.

Opted for the latter because I am a bit of a sinoboo
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Postby Kravanica » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:57 am

Herskerstad wrote:
The East Marches wrote:WW1 reversal best reversal.


The implications are quite severe despite so many glorious kaiserreich replays, but I was stuck between that and Taiping.

Opted for the latter because I am a bit of a sinoboo

I went for the Young Turk Revolution because Constantinople.

And also so The Young Turks would never be created
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:58 am

Kravanica wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Tag!

*twitch* You do realize you can just bookmark a thread, right?

...No?

Anyway...Taiping...or Boxer...hmmmmm...the Boxer Rebellion ended with a lot of Christians dead, sooo...then again so did the Taiping...20 million people dead...

And then the French Revolution had the Reign of Terror...hmmmm...
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Postby The East Marches » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:58 am

Eisarn-Ara wrote:
The East Marches wrote:WW1 reversal best reversal.



Wrong side won, I hope my great-grandfather is haunting some slav somewhere for being shit.


I took it as the ability to see that it never happens. Too many good men on both sides died for too little gain. It was the Peloponnesian War 2 Electric Boogaloo.

Herskerstad wrote:
The East Marches wrote:WW1 reversal best reversal.


The implications are quite severe despite so many glorious kaiserreich replays, but I was stuck between that and Taiping.

Opted for the latter because I am a bit of a sinoboo


Taiping was such a goatfuck. I read a very good book recently by a British traveler following the wake of the war. It was very illuminating.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:58 am

Luminesa wrote:
Kravanica wrote:*twitch* You do realize you can just bookmark a thread, right?

...No?

Anyway...Taiping...or Boxer...hmmmmm...the Boxer Rebellion ended with a lot of Christians dead, sooo...then again so did the Taiping...20 million people dead...

And then the French Revolution had the Reign of Terror...hmmmm...


Obviously the correct answer is the Russian Revolution, we need to stop the commies.
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