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Why do flags for Liberian counties look MS Paint drawings?

Postby Hawaii and Midway Atoll » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:13 pm

We have all probably seen them at least once, but if you haven't.

http://imgur.com/gallery/CNtgS

Does anyone know when they were made and by whom?

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Postby Harponsia » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:19 pm

Well I assume those are drawings of the flags
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:19 pm

I recommend googling to see if they had some kind of contest to choose the county flags.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:33 pm

A link from a more vexillogical source (includes flag creation dates): https://flagspot.net/flags/lr-.html
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Postby Stellonia » Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:05 pm

Hawaii and Midway Atoll wrote:We have all probably seen them at least once, but if you haven't.

http://imgur.com/gallery/CNtgS

Does anyone know when they were made and by whom?

Don't be surprised. San Fransisco's flag looks like it was made with Shapes in Microsoft Word, because the fact of the matter is, some people just don't put any effort into designing flags, logos, or anything of that sort.

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Postby Yugoslav Memes » Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:50 pm

hey at least they're better than pocatello's
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Postby Drown » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:11 pm

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:30 pm

It's almost as if Liberia took the rules of flag design (i.e., "keep it simple, stupid!") and turned it up to eleven...
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:34 pm

Have you ever seen Liberian art?
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Postby Lathunia » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:54 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Have you ever seen Liberian art?

They aren't the best work of art, but I would rather see their art then these flags tbat were probably made in 3 minutes. Unless you count the other results from google like a dead liberian boy. Ah,google.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:58 pm

Lathunia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Have you ever seen Liberian art?

They aren't the best work of art, but I would rather see their art then these flags tbat were probably made in 3 minutes. Unless you count the other results from google like a dead liberian boy. Ah,google.

No, I have deep love of Liberian culture, I say the flags look about right for it
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Postby Uiiop » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:02 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Lathunia wrote:They aren't the best work of art, but I would rather see their art then these flags tbat were probably made in 3 minutes. Unless you count the other results from google like a dead liberian boy. Ah,google.

No, I have deep love of Liberian culture, I say the flags look about right for it

Can you explain the context then?
I mean i don't really think it's shit(A bit odd but not shit per se) but you look like the only person here that says they have the answer to this.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:08 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:No, I have deep love of Liberian culture, I say the flags look about right for it

Can you explain the context then?
I mean i don't really think it's shit(A bit odd but not shit per se) but you look like the only person here that says they have the answer to this.

Here's the thing. Liberia is split between two basic groups. The people from the region initially, and the African American colonists from the late 19th century. As such the culture is primarily that of the colonists, with sprinkles of native culture. So, that's how their art looks. Below I put a link to am image to a late plantation era quilt, still popular in Liberia as a major art style.
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2015-05-27-1432753987-4032894-PowersBibleQuilt_1886.jpg
So, the flags seem to have a more modern form of that art. In two words, it's Liberian art
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Postby Scandinavian Nations » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:12 pm

Isn't art basically a white thing? Not white as in race, so if you didn't get the message - isn't fine art a phenomenon specific to the Western civilization?

It did take centuries of developing artistic skill, with specific tools, some of them unavailable to most civilizations, until it reached the point of photo-like realism, and then photography itself, for it to turn back from realism, but now with all the tools of realism available as needed, and begin its new development, centered on expressing strong messages with unusual combinations of visual effects. This process simply hasn't happened anywhere else.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:14 pm

Scandinavian Nations wrote:Isn't art basically a white thing? Not white as in race, so if you didn't get the message - isn't fine art a phenomenon specific to the Western civilization?

It did take centuries of developing artistic skill, with specific tools, some of them unavailable to most civilizations, until it reached the point of photo-like realism, and then photography itself, for it to turn back from realism, but now with all the tools of realism available as needed, and begin its new development, centered on expressing strong messages with unusual combinations of visual effects. This process simply hasn't happened anywhere else.

Um, no, art is a people thing
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Scandinavian Nations wrote:Isn't art basically a white thing? Not white as in race, so if you didn't get the message - isn't fine art a phenomenon specific to the Western civilization?

It did take centuries of developing artistic skill, with specific tools, some of them unavailable to most civilizations, until it reached the point of photo-like realism, and then photography itself, for it to turn back from realism, but now with all the tools of realism available as needed, and begin its new development, centered on expressing strong messages with unusual combinations of visual effects. This process simply hasn't happened anywhere else.

Realism is complete shit, though, as the Westerners except the narcissistic royalties with terrible taste discovered in 19th-20th century. Of course, artistic "Realism" is barely a fraction of history of Western art, so I prefer not to judge the entire civilization's taste by a short unfortunate period. That said, the Magians down in the Middle East, the Japanese, the Chinese etc have distinctly superior art to the West until modern age at least.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:23 pm

Arachno-Satinism wrote:
Scandinavian Nations wrote:Isn't art basically a white thing? Not white as in race, so if you didn't get the message - isn't fine art a phenomenon specific to the Western civilization?

It did take centuries of developing artistic skill, with specific tools, some of them unavailable to most civilizations, until it reached the point of photo-like realism, and then photography itself, for it to turn back from realism, but now with all the tools of realism available as needed, and begin its new development, centered on expressing strong messages with unusual combinations of visual effects. This process simply hasn't happened anywhere else.

Realism is complete shit, though, as the Westerners except the narcissistic royalties with terrible taste discovered in 19th-20th century. Of course, artistic "Realism" is barely a fraction of history of Western art, so I prefer not to judge the entire civilization's taste by a short unfortunate period. That said, the Magians down in the Middle East, the Japanese, the Chinese etc have distinctly superior art to the West until modern age at least.

Well I wouldn't hate on realist art either
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Postby Arachno-Satinism » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:28 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Arachno-Satinism wrote:Realism is complete shit, though, as the Westerners except the narcissistic royalties with terrible taste discovered in 19th-20th century. Of course, artistic "Realism" is barely a fraction of history of Western art, so I prefer not to judge the entire civilization's taste by a short unfortunate period. That said, the Magians down in the Middle East, the Japanese, the Chinese etc have distinctly superior art to the West until modern age at least.

Well I wouldn't hate on realist art either

If your sole reason is to accurately depict a scenery or figure, then yeah maybe. Thanks to technology, nowadays realistic art is mostly obsolete. That said, medieval European paintings are lazy and nowhere near realistic, so the claim that the art is purely Western thing is laughably nonsensical even by applying such arbitrary standard.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:29 pm

Arachno-Satinism wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Well I wouldn't hate on realist art either

If your sole reason is to accurately depict a scenery or figure, then yeah maybe. Thanks to technology, nowadays realistic art is mostly obsolete.

I think conveying fictional scenes with realistic art can be appreciated
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Postby Blue Pinkerton » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:30 pm

The counties of Liberia are about equivalent to small Western cities/large towns.
And I doubt that most Liberians think much about their counties' flag, compared to the national Liberian flag.
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Postby Scandinavian Nations » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:45 pm

Arachno-Satinism wrote:If your sole reason is to accurately depict a scenery or figure, then yeah maybe. Thanks to technology, nowadays realistic art is mostly obsolete.

Yes - but it had to be developed first, for art to turn back away from it and reach its modern stage.

TL;DR: drawing a hill and an arrow around it to show the way isn't art. You don't see Liberian art because only a few civilizations have developed to the point of having time for art, and then developed art itself.
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Postby Jelmatt » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:16 pm

Scandinavian Nations wrote:
Arachno-Satinism wrote:If your sole reason is to accurately depict a scenery or figure, then yeah maybe. Thanks to technology, nowadays realistic art is mostly obsolete.

Yes - but it had to be developed first, for art to turn back away from it and reach its modern stage.

TL;DR: drawing a hill and an arrow around it to show the way isn't art. You don't see Liberian art because only a few civilizations have developed to the point of having time for art, and then developed art itself.



What? Art has existed since prehistoric times. 60,000 years ago at minimum. Civilizations don't reach a "point" where they have art, and then develop art. Art has literally preceded civilization and is one of the few true cultural universals.
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