Should a women-only hour at the gym be the standard policy?

[Camaalbakrius]

Here goes nothing:
-OP sums up the content of the article with a heavily biased opinion and tries to pass it off as actual fact
-OP uses the exact same terms in her TL;DR portion and her own opinion. Not only that, but she takes the exact phrasing from the article instead of developing her own ideas
-OP tries to say that making a reactionary set of rules just because some women feel intimidated by sharing a gym with men is logical. (OH NO! How could they ever suggest something as radical as sharing?)
-OP tries to say that a women-only hour is justified and immediately brands everyone who doesn't agree under the highly ambiguous and often misused title of "misogynist"
-The proposal is actually sexist against men. It quite literally gives a prejudice-based, unfair advantage to the opposite sex on a misinformed, blatantly wrong argument
-Article says that any young woman who walks into a co-ed gym will automatically be intimidated...
-Article cites random eating disorder study and tries to correlate it to this issue
-OP tries to pass off the article as completely unbiased
-OP has atrocious grammar

The Best Fallacy Award of this article goes to: The Composition/Division bit about women-only times in the pool and gym being the exact same thing.

You know, I feel like I could just copy/paste this, change a few bits, and it would fit as a response to many of the OP's previous threads...

You pretty much hit the nail on the head

[Chessmistress]

-OP has atrocious grammar

It's still way better than your grammar in my native language.

The Best Fallacy Award of this article goes to: The Composition/Division bit about women-only times in the pool and gym being the exact same thing.

And you're avoiding to explain what would be the supposed important difference between women-only times in the pool and women-only times in the gym.
I would nominate you for The Best Faking Competence Award, if there would be one.

My opponents have proved to be relying on logical fallacies and conformism, in this thread, when I confronted them about sex-segregation within DV shelters: they supported it without being able to explain why.

Now you should try to explain what would be the really relevant difference between women-only times in the pool and women-only times in the gym.

[Lychgate]

And you're avoiding to explain what would be the supposed important difference.

Congratulations, you have learned to selectively censor so it looks like you didn't fail as horribly as you did!

If it weren't obvious, your article is trying to say that an activity in the water with skimpy clothing and forced interaction is exactly the same and has the exact same principles as an activity on land with choice of clothing and more selective interaction.

Also, on the grammar point, if you try to convince people to agree with your position and help you defend your points, you should at least do it in a way that said people can actually understand.

[Chessmistress]

And you're avoiding to explain what would be the supposed important difference.

Congratulations, you have learned to selectively censor so it looks like you didn't fail as horribly as you did!

If it weren't obvious, your article is trying to say that an activity in the water with skimpy clothing and forced interaction is exactly the same and has the exact same principles as an activity on land with choice of clothing and more selective interaction.

Pure strawman.
The interaction within a gym isn't "more selective" than in a pool, and there isn't a relevant difference between clothing because there's a lot of choice even for clothing within a pool while due the nature of the exercises you cannot totally cover yourself within a gym.
You sorely failed to prove there's a relevant difference, you, at best, proved that the existence of a difference is debatable.
I would classify you among the conformists who are accepting a practice just only because it's already in place while opposing a totally similar practce just because it's a new thing.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

Congratulations, you have learned to selectively censor so it looks like you didn't fail as horribly as you did!

If it weren't obvious, your article is trying to say that an activity in the water with skimpy clothing and forced interaction is exactly the same and has the exact same principles as an activity on land with choice of clothing and more selective interaction.

Pure strawman.
The interaction within a gym isn't "more selective" than in a pool, and there isn't a relevant difference between clothing because there's a lot of choice even for clothing within a pool while due the nature of the exercises you cannot totally cover yourself within a gym.
You sorely failed to prove there's a relevant difference, you, at best, proved that the existence of a difference is debatable.
I would classify you among the conformists who are accepting a practice just only because it's already in place while opposing a totally similar practce just because it's a new thing.

But I happen to agree with him and in no way am I following the beaten path................any more "witty" comebacks?

[Chessmistress]

Pure strawman.
The interaction within a gym isn't "more selective" than in a pool, and there isn't a relevant difference between clothing because there's a lot of choice even for clothing within a pool while due the nature of the exercises you cannot totally cover yourself within a gym.
You sorely failed to prove there's a relevant difference, you, at best, proved that the existence of a difference is debatable.
I would classify you among the conformists who are accepting a practice just only because it's already in place while opposing a totally similar practce just because it's a new thing.

But I happen to agree with him and in no way am I following the beaten path................any more "witty" comebacks?

In other words you can't tell the supposed relevant difference between women-only times at the pool and women-only times at the gym...

[Tishanda]

At this point we might as well just have a penguin-only hour at the gym, you know, since they can't fly.

[Chessmistress]

At this point we might as well just have a penguin-only hour at the gym, you know, since they can't fly.

The issue is, in fact, very simple: you can't be against women-only times at the gym while being in favor of women-only times at the pool.
It's a logical path, and when you accept women-only hours at the pool then it's just a matter of time before you accept even women-only hours at the gym.
The details about extremely debatable differences in clothing and purely fictional differences in the level of interaction hold no water: the meaning of having women-only hours at the pool is meeting the needs of women who want be free to practice without having the male gaze over them.
That is.
And it's the same even for women-only hours at the gym.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

At this point we might as well just have a penguin-only hour at the gym, you know, since they can't fly.

The issue is, in fact, very simple: you can't be against women-only times at the gym while being in favor of women-only times at the pool.
It's a logical path, and when you accept women-only hours at the pool then it's just a matter of time before you accept even women-only hours at the gym.
The details about extremely debatable differences in clothing and purely fictional differences in the level of interaction hold no water: the meaning of having women-only hours at the pool is meeting the needs of women who want be free to practice without having the male gaze over them.
That is.
And it's the same even for women-only hours at the gym.

Well if they live in a capitalist society then its their own freakin fault they cant afford a private swimming pool. In socialist/communist countries everyone shares everything so you still would get over it.

[Kubra]

The issue is, in fact, very simple: you can't be against women-only times at the gym while being in favor of women-only times at the pool.
It's a logical path, and when you accept women-only hours at the pool then it's just a matter of time before you accept even women-only hours at the gym.
The details about extremely debatable differences in clothing and purely fictional differences in the level of interaction hold no water: the meaning of having women-only hours at the pool is meeting the needs of women who want be free to practice without having the male gaze over them.
That is.
And it's the same even for women-only hours at the gym.

Well if they live in a capitalist society then its their own freakin fault they cant afford a private swimming pool. In socialist/communist countries everyone shares everything so you still would get over it.

least communist thing that's been said all week

[Chessmistress]

The issue is, in fact, very simple: you can't be against women-only times at the gym while being in favor of women-only times at the pool.
It's a logical path, and when you accept women-only hours at the pool then it's just a matter of time before you accept even women-only hours at the gym.
The details about extremely debatable differences in clothing and purely fictional differences in the level of interaction hold no water: the meaning of having women-only hours at the pool is meeting the needs of women who want be free to practice without having the male gaze over them.
That is.
And it's the same even for women-only hours at the gym.

Well if they live in a capitalist society then its their own freakin fault they cant afford a private swimming pool. In socialist/communist countries everyone shares everything so you still would get over it.

But there's already women-only hours at pool...

[Camaalbakrius]

How do we know that men arent tired of being stared at by women? Why dont we show the men a little love? Or is that logically impossible because of some sort of male stereotype?

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

How do we know that men arent tired of being stared at by women? Why dont we show the men a little love? Or is that logically impossible because of some sort of male stereotype?

We have a radical that wishes to expose truth!!! take'em down!!!

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

Well if they live in a capitalist society then its their own freakin fault they cant afford a private swimming pool. In socialist/communist countries everyone shares everything so you still would get over it.

But there's already women-only hours at pool...

I meant a gym. I was typing way to fast on this capitalist piece of tech.

[Chessmistress]

How do we know that men arent tired of being stared at by women? Why dont we show the men a little love? Or is that logically impossible because of some sort of male stereotype?

Choose the answer you prefer:
Perhaps because they aren't protesting and asking for a men-only hour?
Perhaps because women don't stare at men and that's why men aren't protesting and asking for a men-only hour?

[Chessmistress]

But there's already women-only hours at pool...

I meant a gym. I was typing way to fast on this capitalist piece of tech.

I still fail to see a relevant difference between women-only hours at the pool and women-only hours at the gym.

[Thermodolia]

At this point we might as well just have a penguin-only hour at the gym, you know, since they can't fly.

The issue is, in fact, very simple: you can't be against women-only times at the gym while being in favor of women-only times at the pool.
It's a logical path, and when you accept women-only hours at the pool then it's just a matter of time before you accept even women-only hours at the gym.
The details about extremely debatable differences in clothing and purely fictional differences in the level of interaction hold no water: the meaning of having women-only hours at the pool is meeting the needs of women who want be free to practice without having the male gaze over them.
That is.
And it's the same even for women-only hours at the gym.

Who has women only hours at pools? That's just as stupid if not more so

[Thermodolia]

Well if they live in a capitalist society then its their own freakin fault they cant afford a private swimming pool. In socialist/communist countries everyone shares everything so you still would get over it.

But there's already women-only hours at pool...

Where?

Because that doesn't happen anywhere within a 500 mile radius of me

[Camaalbakrius]

How do we know that men arent tired of being stared at by women? Why dont we show the men a little love? Or is that logically impossible because of some sort of male stereotype?

Choose the answer you prefer:
Perhaps because they aren't protesting and asking for a men-only hour?
Perhaps because women don't stare at men and that's why men aren't protesting and asking for a men-only hour?

For the first one: Men dont care because we probably either a: have better things to worry about. B: Go to the gym in the hopes of being noticed. Or C: we like it if women look at us because we think you are attracted to us.
for the second one: you are making assumptions about women. You cannot do that. You cannot just assume that women dont stare at men. That could thoguht of as offensive.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

See what I'm realizing is you probably aren't really taking other views into account its obvious you lost this argument(arguably) but you keep picking at it. Maybe if their were other girls opposing you, you might have already given up on this useless point that from both sides seems pretty pointless.

[Chessmistress]

The issue is, in fact, very simple: you can't be against women-only times at the gym while being in favor of women-only times at the pool.
It's a logical path, and when you accept women-only hours at the pool then it's just a matter of time before you accept even women-only hours at the gym.
The details about extremely debatable differences in clothing and purely fictional differences in the level of interaction hold no water: the meaning of having women-only hours at the pool is meeting the needs of women who want be free to practice without having the male gaze over them.
That is.
And it's the same even for women-only hours at the gym.

Who has women only hours at pools? That's just as stupid if not more so

Carleton University already have a lot of women-only classes and events, I previously linked to it.
Their Womyn's Centre is doing a very good job.

[Camaalbakrius]

See what I'm realizing is you probably aren't really taking other views into account its obvious you lost this argument(arguably) but you keep picking at it. Maybe if their were other girls opposing you, you might have already given up on this useless point that from both sides seems pretty pointless.

Impossible. Feminist dogma clearly states that women cannot be against any feminist idea

[The Two Jerseys]

Who has women only hours at pools? That's just as stupid if not more so

Carleton University already have a lot of women-only classes and events, I previously linked to it.
Their Womyn's Centre is doing a very good job.

And these women went to a co-ed school why, exactly?

[Camaalbakrius]

I wonder how Milo or Ben Shapiro would oppose this idea. Not that the idea needs opposition anymore. Im just saying I wonder what their arguments would be. I wonder how long Milo could last on NationStates. Mods may have to keep their eyes on him

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

Carleton University already have a lot of women-only classes and events, I previously linked to it.
Their Womyn's Centre is doing a very good job.

And these women went to a co-ed school why, exactly?

They either wanted the attention of being a feminist or they couldn't afford anywhere else because of capitalist greed.