Should a women-only hour at the gym be the standard policy?

[Cyborgs and Sentient Machines]

I agree this is a nice idea, but I think really it would be preferable to have a beginners hour instead, as from the OP this seems to be about beginners being intimated of all the hulks and equipment they don't know how to operate yet.
This would be a more inclusive solution as everyone who is nervous of going should be able to go.

[Harponsia]

1. Why do men need an exclusive men-only-hour? Why should we give people things they don't particularly need to meet some kind of contrived equality quota?
2. Would you rather it be longer, then? The specific length of time is not the point.
3. This way is vastly easier.
4. Tell em to buy a watch.

Why should we give people things they don't particularly need, indeed.

No solid point in women having it, really.

I was under the impression that the policy was implemented because many of the women at the university felt intimidated and uncomfortable using the gym

[Esternial]

Why should we give people things they don't particularly need, indeed.

No solid point in women having it, really.

I was under the impression that the policy was implemented because many of the women at the university felt intimidated and uncomfortable using the gym

A sentiment men can also have, believe it or not.

Just go during calmer hours.

[Uxupox]

Why should we give people things they don't particularly need, indeed.

No solid point in women having it, really.

I was under the impression that the policy was implemented because many of the women at the university felt intimidated and uncomfortable using the gym

intimidated. like what the hell.

[Noraika]

In all honesty, the only problem I see with this is that 1 hour is pretty darn short time for a gym session. I'd probably be more inclined for 2 hours possibly alternating in the morning and night for different days so there's options open for all schedules as well. So like, for example (Women's hours: Monday: 8am-10am, Tuesday: 8pm-10pm, Wednesday: 8am-10am...and so on and so forth).

[I didnt vote for Trump]

I disagree with this idea, for a few reasons:

• It's Sexist Towards Men (Though this can be avoided ... If there is a women-only hour, it would only be fair to have a men-only hour as well)
• Not all workout goals can be achieved in an hour.
• It pushes men and women further apart, only solidifying the fear of the opposite sex. A better approach would be to encourage women to not feel intimidated just because they are around men.
• It would discourage some from going to the gym, as women would feel more obligated to only go for the hour and feel awkward if they didn't leave after/they arrived early, and men would go less because of the possible bad time placement.

Those are just some of the reasons, i'm sure others have thought of more though.

1. Why do men need an exclusive men-only-hour? Why should we give people things they don't particularly need to meet some kind of contrived equality quota?
2. Would you rather it be longer, then? The specific length of time is not the point.
3. This way is vastly easier.
4. Tell em to buy a watch.

You know what's even easier?

Going to a female-only gym.

Barring that?

Going to a female-only class in a room in the gym.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I was under the impression that the policy was implemented because many of the women at the university felt intimidated and uncomfortable using the gym

intimidated. like what the hell.

Apparently the logic behind the proposition is that, because women might feel intimidated because they are out of shape or is their first time in the gym and they don't know how to use the machines properly over a bunch of buffed guys are using the machines properly, we must put a new schedule for women to do exercise for at least an hour.

[Esternial]

In all honesty, the only problem I see with this is that 1 hour is pretty darn short time for a gym session. I'd probably be more inclined for 2 hours possibly alternating in the morning and night for different days so there's options open for all schedules as well. So like, for example (Women's hours: Monday: 8am-10am, Tuesday: 8pm-10pm, Wednesday: 8am-10am...and so on and so forth). :)

So if I wanted to go to the gym before class at 10am on Tuesday I should just literally take a hike?

[Tule]

I go to a dojo that is male dominated. There are certain women's only classes a few times a week. Why? Because being the only girl in a BJJ class of 20 men can be intimidating as fuck.

It may not be formally egalitarian, but in practice it actually makes the gym more egalitarian as more women actually show up. And it hasn't made it any more difficult for me to go to my gym.

I support the measure.

[Noraika]

In all honesty, the only problem I see with this is that 1 hour is pretty darn short time for a gym session. I'd probably be more inclined for 2 hours possibly alternating in the morning and night for different days so there's options open for all schedules as well. So like, for example (Women's hours: Monday: 8am-10am, Tuesday: 8pm-10pm, Wednesday: 8am-10am...and so on and so forth).

So if I wanted to go to the gym before class at 10am on Tuesday I should just literally take a hike?

It was an example, and setting a basis for an idea for a schedule, on which refinement can take place, not a suggestion for a set rule. Although hikes are very nice if you live in an area with scenery for that, and I can totally recommend that as well.

[Harponsia]

intimidated. like what the hell.

Apparently the logic behind the proposition is that, because women might feel intimidated because they are out of shape or is their first time in the gym and they don't know how to use the machines properly over a bunch of buffed guys are using the machines properly, we must put a new schedule for women to do exercise for at least an hour.

I mean, ideally all gyms would be completely sex-segregated, but implementing that now would be impractical.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I mean, ideally all gyms would be completely sex-segregated, but implementing that now would be impractical.

How would sex-segregated gyms help?

I mean, maybe I am not getting the logic because people have decried one-sex-only Catholic schools in the past, so what's the logic in now trying to implement sex segregation in a recreational facility?

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Why should we give people things they don't particularly need, indeed.

No solid point in women having it, really.

I was under the impression that the policy was implemented because many of the women at the university felt intimidated and uncomfortable using the gym

I said this earlier in the thread, I will repeat myself. People ought not be afforded special treatment because they feel uncomfortable.....

Edit: ....And/or intimidated by when in the presence of others. I'd only allow special treatment in the scenario that both parties (in this case, Men and Women) are afforded such treatment.

[Galloism]

I was under the impression that the policy was implemented because many of the women at the university felt intimidated and uncomfortable using the gym

I said this earlier in the thread, I will repeat myself. People ought not be afforded special treatment because they feel uncomfortable.

Well, if the facility lost its heat and it was 40 degrees inside and therefore uncomfortable, it would be nice of the facility to offer people jackets or something so they wouldn't be uncomfortable.

[Neutraligon]

I now this is sarcasm but I will answer seriously. It depends on the situation. When it comes to things like custody men have a serious disadvantage. When it comes to math and sciences I would say that there is still an imbalance when it comes to how men and women are treated, but that difference is significantly less then what is used to be, and in some places have all but disappeared. I am more and more seeing sexism from a rather different direction. Women need to be treated as delicate little snow flakes who are unable to make their own decisions should they decide to say be a stay at home mom or decide to have sex with a man...and that is coming from certain feminists.

The satire was actually intended to be aimed mostly at the feminists you just described objecting to your last sentence.

I know, I just wanted to answer it. I just worded my reasoning wrong.

[Esternial]

So if I wanted to go to the gym before class at 10am on Tuesday I should just literally take a hike?

It was an example, and setting a basis for an idea for a schedule, on which refinement can take place, not a suggestion for a set rule. Although hikes are very nice if you live in an area with scenery for that, and I can totally recommend that as well. :p

It's just very restrictive. I figure most gyms have some people working out at all times. It's unfair to ban men from a gym for two hours and expect them to adapt their schedule because other people feel uncomfortable.

If someone harasses you in a gym, they should clearly be thrown out, but most people in a gym are there for themselves. If you're uncomfortable or intimidated by other people, then that's your problem caused by yourself, not them. You should either get over that irrational anxiety or come back during calmer hours. You should adapt. Other people shouldn't adapt to you. One's sex/gender should be irrelevant in his scenario.

[Dernland]

Should it be standard policy? No, I don't think so. If a gym wants to there's no real harm in that, but enforcing it as standard practice would be going too far.

[New haven america]

Apparently the logic behind the proposition is that, because women might feel intimidated because they are out of shape or is their first time in the gym and they don't know how to use the machines properly over a bunch of buffed guys are using the machines properly, we must put a new schedule for women to do exercise for at least an hour.

I mean, ideally all gyms would be completely sex-segregated, but implementing that now would be impractical.

You do realize the largest cause of eating disorders and body issues in the female population is other women?

Wouldn't that just cause more harm?

[FelrikTheDeleted]

I said this earlier in the thread, I will repeat myself. People ought not be afforded special treatment because they feel uncomfortable.

Well, if the facility lost its heat and it was 40 degrees inside and therefore uncomfortable, it would be nice of the facility to offer people jackets or something so they wouldn't be uncomfortable.

I've already edited in what I forgot.

[Esternial]

I go to a dojo that is male dominated. There are certain women's only classes a few times a week. Why? Because being the only girl in a BJJ class of 20 men can be intimidating as fuck.

It may not be formally egalitarian, but in practice it actually makes the gym more egalitarian as more women actually show up. And it hasn't made it any more difficult for me to go to my gym.

I support the measure.

Classes typically have a specific hour, so there's no significant issue there. an women's only class is no different than any other class to someone that isn't interested in the class.

My issue is that when you have a freely accessible gym that would otherwise be open for everyone at all opening hours. The generic "walk-in" gym, so to speak.

[Noraika]

It was an example, and setting a basis for an idea for a schedule, on which refinement can take place, not a suggestion for a set rule. Although hikes are very nice if you live in an area with scenery for that, and I can totally recommend that as well.

It's just very restrictive. I figure most gyms have some people working out at all times. It's unfair to ban men from a gym for two hours and expect them to adapt their schedule because other people feel uncomfortable.

If someone harasses you in a gym, they should clearly be thrown out, but most people in a gym are there for themselves. If you're uncomfortable or intimidated by other people, then that's your problem caused by yourself, not them. You should either get over that irrational anxiety or come back during calmer hours. You should adapt. Other people shouldn't adapt to you. One's sex/gender should be irrelevant in his scenario.

Not at all, and routines can change at plenty of other times too. I got a new job, and my typical work-out time became work-time, so I had to adjust, less than 10% of the day, is not that much of an alteration. Finally, no, its not unfair at all, and psychologically and socially speaking its more than just "uncomfortabiltiy", but I digress, but I'll just say this.

I used to work out often. The difference between if a girl was in the room and if a girl was not in the room, changed the environment drastically, to a very large detriment if the former. Until that is no longer an issue, there is validity in ensuring there are times which are available and conductive towards a positive atmosphere and attitude in the gym.

[Harponsia]

I mean, ideally all gyms would be completely sex-segregated, but implementing that now would be impractical.

You do realize the largest cause of eating disorders and body issues in the female population is other women?

Wouldn't that just cause more harm?

"Cause more harm" seems to imply that working out with men and women both present does something to decrease rates of eating disorders among women, which, well I fail to see how they would be connected.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Women need to be treated as delicate little snow flakes who are unable to make their own decisions should they decide to say be a stay at home mom or decide to have sex with a man...and that is coming from certain feminists.

This is what having only middle-class people and above among the top voices of a movement causes, honestly.

Sure, people who have money can do more with their free time, yadda yadda, doesn't mean their ideas don't trickle down to the followers of the ideology because they are the most prominent feminists who write books, go to conferences, etc.

Refusing to be a stay at home mom, or have sex with a man for political reasons is, for many women who don't live in middle-classtopia, something that's alien to them. The only people who take themselves seriously are the middle-classtopians who belong to the feminist movement as the strongest voices and they dictate the narrative of the movement and spread these ideas.

In other words, the feminist movement leaders live in their own middle-class bubble. If nothing else, this is one of the things as to why feminism's top voices are the way they are nowadays, because middle-class people think there are no issues that affect women at other levels anymore, because they have never stepped foot outside of a city.

[Hesse Darmstadt]

In all honesty, the only problem I see with this is that 1 hour is pretty darn short time for a gym session. I'd probably be more inclined for 2 hours possibly alternating in the morning and night for different days so there's options open for all schedules as well. So like, for example (Women's hours: Monday: 8am-10am, Tuesday: 8pm-10pm, Wednesday: 8am-10am...and so on and so forth).

Nah, how about men's only hours? that would be much better.

[The Alexanderians]

No, my college tried it fora semester and it was one of the most inconvenient policies they've ever instituted because they were done at the gym's high hours. Now this wouldn't have been as much of a problem if there was more than one major gym on campus but we only had two small workout rooms each a fraction of the size of the main gym. So while a dozen or so women used a very large campus facility, 40+ men tried to use rooms built for at most 6-8 each. Practically this would be better suited for places with multiple facilities to accommodate such disproportionate allocation of resources with less inconvenience. Principally however such an act is nothing short of sexism and as such is morally deplorable.

At the same time it it would be possible for the private sector to work its black magic and prop up female only gyms. To be honest I'd be surprised if they're not, it's a trend for some (usually small) businesses to try and exclude people they see as "out group" (I'd use "privileged" but some how that seems too loaded on my part, since even though it fits those I have in mind it doesn't fit all of the cases). So I'd be surprised if this wasn't a semi-common occurrence.