7th Rome prophecy?

[Grand Britannia]

The 7th Rome will be a renewed American Federation.

Sorry Sinophiles.

[Community Values]

Prob China. For as much as I hate authoritarianism, they sure do seem to have an efficient society that oppresses its people, with its people not rebelling in any huge way.

Who knows, somewhere along the line their country might see meaningful reform to the point where it is democratic and free. Or maybe that's just optimistic.

As person currently going through the China unit in history, and as a person who had to read To Live for english, China is the saddest nation I've ever laid my eyes upon. Their attempts at democracy have all failed, they can't even do fascism or communism right. I highly doubt China would ever form, they have too strong of an iron grip on the people, with enough of a facade of "Socialism" and "Democracy" that the people are relatively happy with it. The only thing that might make China change is their demographics, which I believe are due to the One Child Policy, has too many men, and not enough women.

[Hurdergaryp]

Exactly. Please disregard Hawaii and the Philippines. Disregard those territories hard. Also don't think too hard about all those formerly Mexican realms that now are now integral parts of the USA. It just kinda happened, ok?

The key word there is "integral." Those territories and Hawaii are integral parts of the United States, with their inhabitants full citizens, and not provinces with second-class rights. The Philippines became a commonwelath in 1935 and were scheduled to become independent in 1945. As it is, WWII set that schedule back only one year. But hey, believe what you like, it's only NSG.

Granted, it is true that the USA never called itself an empire with so many words.

[Socialist Nordia]

Who knows, somewhere along the line their country might see meaningful reform to the point where it is democratic and free. Or maybe that's just optimistic.

As person currently going through the China unit in history, and as a person who had to read To Live for english, China is the saddest nation I've ever laid my eyes upon. Their attempts at democracy have all failed, they can't even do fascism or communism right. I highly doubt China would ever form, they have too strong of an iron grip on the people, with enough of a facade of "Socialism" and "Democracy" that the people are relatively happy with it. The only thing that might make China change is their demographics, which I believe are due to the One Child Policy, has too many men, and not enough women.

You have an interesting point. China really has no history of representative government. It has no tradition of democracy to fall back on. Even if it does democratise, newborn democracies tend to have numerous problems (see Latin America once it got independence). However, we've seen from Chinese history that a dynasty never lasts forever, no matter its strength at its height. The CCP will have to give at some point, and everything depends on what comes next.

[Napkiraly]

Exactly. Please disregard Hawaii and the Philippines. Disregard those territories hard. Also don't think too hard about all those formerly Mexican realms that now are now integral parts of the USA. It just kinda happened, ok?

The key word there is "integral." Those territories and Hawaii are integral parts of the United States, with their inhabitants full citizens, and not provinces with second-class rights. The Philippines became a commonwelath in 1935 and were scheduled to become independent in 1945. As it is, WWII set that schedule back only one year. But hey, believe what you like, it's only NSG.

Not all of the inhabitants. Native Americans were not granted citizenship until 1924 and in some places were still not allowed to vote until the late 1950's. Then of course, the pre-Commonwealth period of the Philippines, the Commonwealth period of the Philippines (I mean, America controlled Filipino foreign and military affairs and even needed Congress to pass certain legislation) all without having full voting representation in American politics.

[Hurdergaryp]

The 7th Rome will be a renewed American Federation.

Sorry Sinophiles.

You wrote "Holy Britannian Empire" wrong.

[Krah Versilia]

The 7th Rome will be a renewed American Federation.

Sorry Sinophiles.

You wrote "Holy Britannian Empire" wrong.

Make America Great Britain Again.

[Grand Britannia]

The 7th Rome will be a renewed American Federation.

Sorry Sinophiles.

You wrote "Holy Britannian Empire" wrong.

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[Bonehead Crushers]

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I, for one, welcome our new Finnish overlords.

You better. We have sauna, Koskenkorva, mämmi and Joulupukki. Also kalakukko.

[Alvecia]

You wrote "Holy Britannian Empire" wrong.

Make America Great Britain Again.

*British intensifies*

[Community Values]

As person currently going through the China unit in history, and as a person who had to read To Live for english, China is the saddest nation I've ever laid my eyes upon. Their attempts at democracy have all failed, they can't even do fascism or communism right. I highly doubt China would ever form, they have too strong of an iron grip on the people, with enough of a facade of "Socialism" and "Democracy" that the people are relatively happy with it. The only thing that might make China change is their demographics, which I believe are due to the One Child Policy, has too many men, and not enough women.

You have an interesting point. China really has no history of representative government. It has no tradition of democracy to fall back on. Even if it does democratise, newborn democracies tend to have numerous problems (see Latin America once it got independence). However, we've seen from Chinese history that a dynasty never lasts forever, no matter its strength at its height. The CCP will have to give at some point, and everything depends on what comes next.

If that's the case, we have quite awhile to go if China now is like a dynasty then (quite ironic, really).

[Genivaria]

Your definition of 'empire' seems to be so loose it's lost any meaning.

[Engleberg]

You wrote "Holy Britannian Empire" wrong.

Make America Great Britain Again.

Make (Part of) Africa and the Pacific German Again

[Genivaria]

AD 1453: Barbarians destroyed Constantinople, the second Rome and there was a prophecy "Two Romes have fallen. The third stands. And there will not be a fourth https://orthodoxwiki.org/Third_Rome

Rome 1 = Rome
Rome 2 = Constantinople
Rome 3 = Moscow

The fourth Rome shall never be = the Holy Roman Empire which is defined as neither Holy nor Roman nor an Empire.

Rome 5 = British Empire, the biggest Empire evah: therefore Arthur Pendragon.
Rome 6 = USA

Which nation will be the next Empire after USA?

As a pessimist, I expect terrorists will win.

As an optimist, I hope India will win. Britain civilized India therefore they carry the legacy of Arthur Pendragon himself.

Rome 0 = Alexander's minions
Rome -1 = Alexander
Rome - 2 = Persia
Rome - 3 = Babylon
Rome -4 = Assyria
Rome - 5 v= Egypt
etc etc etc

Your understanding of history seems to be lacking.

[Sanctissima]

Canada!

None will expect the Moosen legions!

MUAHAHAHA!

A Mari Usque Ad Mare!

[Napkiraly]

You have an interesting point. China really has no history of representative government. It has no tradition of democracy to fall back on. Even if it does democratise, newborn democracies tend to have numerous problems (see Latin America once it got independence). However, we've seen from Chinese history that a dynasty never lasts forever, no matter its strength at its height. The CCP will have to give at some point, and everything depends on what comes next.

If that's the case, we have quite awhile to go if China now is like a dynasty then (quite ironic, really).

Not really. The Qin and Xin dynasties for example only lasted 15 and 14 years respectively. The Yuan dynasty didn't last a century. A number of others lasted only around a century or century and a half. The CCP has been in power for over 70 years, so it is quite possible that we can see its end in the next half century or so.

[Socialist Nordia]

Canada!

None will suspect the Moosen legions!

MUAHAHAHA!

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A Mari Usque Ad Mare!

Canadians have already managed to infiltrate and shut down the us government. What else are they capable of?

[The Grene Knyght]

You wrote "Holy Britannian Empire" wrong.

Make America Great Britain Again.

Make Britain Danish again

[Napkiraly]

Make America Great Britain Again.

Make Britain Danish again

If it means an influx of hot, buxom blondes then I am okay with this. Sure the language is trash but I am a man of compromise.

[Republic of Tacos]

JINA WILL BE A UUUUUGGGEEEE EMPIRE.

[Engleberg]

Make America Great Britain Again.

Make Britain Danish again

Make Denmark Prussian Again

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Make Britain Danish again

If it means an influx of hot, buxom blondes then I am okay with this. Sure the language is trash but I am a man of compromise.

I'll endorse such an endeavour.

[Sanctissima]

Canada!

None will suspect the Moosen legions!

MUAHAHAHA!

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A Mari Usque Ad Mare!

Canadians have already managed to infiltrate and shut down the us government. What else are they capable of?

None will realize the true threat of Canadian immigrants until it is too late!

Fools, instead of building a border wall with Mexico, you should be building one in the North, from whence comes your demise! Vae victis, Winter is coming!

[Socialist Nordia]

If that's the case, we have quite awhile to go if China now is like a dynasty then (quite ironic, really).

Not really. The Qin and Xin dynasties for example only lasted 15 and 14 years respectively. The Yuan dynasty didn't last a century. A number of others lasted only around a century or century and a half. The CCP has been in power for over 70 years, so it is quite possible that we can see its end in the next half century or so.

Some of the most successful such as Tang and Ming lasted nearly 3 centuries, though.

[Grand Britannia]

Canadians have already managed to infiltrate and shut down the us government. What else are they capable of?

None will realize the true threat of Canadian immigrants until it is too late!

Fools, instead of building a border wall with Mexico, you should be building one in the North, from whence comes your demise! Vae victis, Winter is coming!

this kills the Canadian