Transgender Discussion Thread III: Vote in our poll!

[Dylar]

See, holding or looking to a book as holy, but at the same time not holding the view that it should NOT be taken literally is an oxymoron. I’m stating this based on my time in conservative and far-right Christianity(I also spend some time in progressive Christianity). Many Christians view the “fact” that God made Adam, a cisgender man, and Eve, a cisgender woman that is the only possible and vaild genders there are.

Hot takes:

Eve was a transwoman, Christ was a transman.

[The Serbian Empire]

There is no reason why one would have to reach that conclusion by necessity. I don't. And many other Christians, especially queer Christians, don't.

1. Considering the Bible as Holy does not imply the view that all of it is to be taken literally (and this point has been recognized since the early days of the church). 2. Even if one takes the Bible to be read only literally, it simply says no-where explicitly that there are *only* two genders. You have to make some interpretative moves before you arrive there.

See, holding or looking to a book as holy, but at the same time not holding the view that it should NOT be taken literally is an oxymoron. I’m stating this based on my time in conservative and far-right Christianity(I also spend some time in progressive Christianity). Many Christians view the “fact” that God made Adam, a cisgender man, and Eve, a cisgender woman that is the only possible and vaild genders there are.

Either God is a woman, or Eve is trans. The only way that Eve could be a woman involves either the apple is full of estrogen or God being a woman based off the text.

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

See, holding or looking to a book as holy, but at the same time not holding the view that it should NOT be taken literally is an oxymoron. I’m stating this based on my time in conservative and far-right Christianity(I also spend some time in progressive Christianity). Many Christians view the “fact” that God made Adam, a cisgender man, and Eve, a cisgender woman that is the only possible and vaild genders there are.

Either God is a woman, or Eve is trans. The only way that Eve could be a woman involves either the apple is full of estrogen or God being a woman based off the text.

I don’t get that takeaway from reading it, but if that is your takeaway, so be it.

[The New California Republic]

Either God is a woman, or Eve is trans. The only way that Eve could be a woman involves either the apple is full of estrogen or God being a woman based off the text.

I don’t get that takeaway from reading it, but if that is your takeaway, so be it.

Eve was made using one of Adam's ribs. That makes her a clone of Adam, male. However in the Bible Eve seems to identify as a woman, so that makes her MtF trans.

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

I don’t get that takeaway from reading it, but if that is your takeaway, so be it.

Eve was made using one of Adam's ribs. That makes her a clone of Adam, male. However in the Bible Eve seems to identify as a woman, so that makes her MtF trans.

I consider the creation story of the Bible to be highly unlikely, so personally, I’m not insistent on my takeaway of that Adam is a cisman and Eve is a ciswoman. When I read the various versions of the Bible, I get the takeaway according to the Bible, God made two genders, cisman and ciswoman.

Mind you, that I don’t consider the Bible to be a form of divine revelation.

[Firaxin]

I don’t get that takeaway from reading it, but if that is your takeaway, so be it.

Eve was made using one of Adam's ribs. That makes her a clone of Adam, male. However in the Bible Eve seems to identify as a woman, so that makes her MtF trans.

I mean, God is omnipotent, so why could he not just make a completely new human from ribs?

[The Serbian Empire]

I don’t get that takeaway from reading it, but if that is your takeaway, so be it.

Eve was made using one of Adam's ribs. That makes her a clone of Adam, male. However in the Bible Eve seems to identify as a woman, so that makes her MtF trans.

Yep, which means this will make the fundies mad.

[The New California Republic]

Eve was made using one of Adam's ribs. That makes her a clone of Adam, male. However in the Bible Eve seems to identify as a woman, so that makes her MtF trans.

I mean, God is omnipotent, so why could he not just make a completely new human from ribs?

Why make her from ribs at all? Surely he could just make her from dirt, as he did with Adam? No?

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

Eve was made using one of Adam's ribs. That makes her a clone of Adam, male. However in the Bible Eve seems to identify as a woman, so that makes her MtF trans.

Yep, which means this will make the fundies mad.

Eh, as an ex-Catholic fundamentalist, I would personally think you’re were being ridiculous rather than getting angry.

[Firaxin]

I mean, God is omnipotent, so why could he not just make a completely new human from ribs?

Why make her from ribs at all? Surely he could just make her from dirt, as he did with Adam? No?

He could make her from literally nothing. I suspect it's just to point to the fact that females and males are both from the same species.

[The South Falls]

I mean, God is omnipotent, so why could he not just make a completely new human from ribs?

Why make her from ribs at all? Surely he could just make her from dirt, as he did with Adam? No?

He could have made her from other bones. Ribs can be cracked easily. Women aren't meant to crack easily.

[The New California Republic]

Why make her from ribs at all? Surely he could just make her from dirt, as he did with Adam? No?

He could make her from literally nothing. I suspect it's just to point to the fact that females and males are both from the same species.

And the same XY chromosomes to boot. In fact, the exact same chromosomes across the board...

[Luna Amore]

Why make her from ribs at all? Surely he could just make her from dirt, as he did with Adam? No?

He could have made her from other bones. Ribs can be cracked easily. Women aren't meant to crack easily.

Adam probably would have noticed if god took one of his femurs though.

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

He could have made her from other bones. Ribs can be cracked easily. Women aren't meant to crack easily.

Adam probably would have noticed if god took one of his femurs though.

Perhaps as Adam and Eve did not understand the concept of nudity, Adam did not feel any pain during or after God’s operation.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Can we not try to extrapolate biology from mythical creation stories?

[The New California Republic]

He could have made her from other bones. Ribs can be cracked easily. Women aren't meant to crack easily.

Adam probably would have noticed if god took one of his femurs though.

Take his skull. That is a pretty strong mass of bone. I'm sure Adam wouldn't have missed it, right?

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

Can we not try to extrapolate biology from mythical creation stories?

WHY NOT? I think is an interesting idea worth exploring!

[United Muscovite Nations]

Can we not try to extrapolate biology from mythical creation stories?

WHY NOT? I think is an interesting idea worth exploring!

Because it's a pointless exercise in trying to find a meaning that was never meant to be taken from it. There is such a thing as over-analysis of literature.

[The New California Republic]

WHY NOT? I think is an interesting idea worth exploring!

Because it's a pointless exercise in trying to find a meaning that was never meant to be taken from it. There is such a thing as over-analysis of literature.

Debating whether Biblical figures were trans or not seems like a great avenue of discussion, especially since this is a transgender discussion thread. Let us have our fun, don't be a party pooper. Come on, please? Whaddaya say?

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

WHY NOT? I think is an interesting idea worth exploring!

Because it's a pointless exercise in trying to find a meaning that was never meant to be taken from it. There is such a thing as over-analysis of literature.

Serbian Empire was right when she said you guys would be salty. We are analyzing the Bible, and if you’re against that, then you should not be so reliant on biblical scholars because thats what they do, bro.

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

Because it's a pointless exercise in trying to find a meaning that was never meant to be taken from it. There is such a thing as over-analysis of literature.

Debating whether Biblical figures were trans or not seems like a great avenue of discussion, especially since this is a transgender discussion thread. Let us have our fun, don't be a party pooper. Come on, please? Whaddaya say?

Yes, I’m not shitting all over the CDT, Muscovite. So, would you please consider doing the same.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Not even Lot's wife was this salty.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Because it's a pointless exercise in trying to find a meaning that was never meant to be taken from it. There is such a thing as over-analysis of literature.

Serbian Empire was right when she said you guys would be salty. We are analyzing the Bible, and if you’re against that, then you should not be so reliant on biblical scholars because thats what they do, bro.

"analyzing"

Not even Lot's wife was this salty.

I dunno, she probably had a lot to be salty about.

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

Not even Lot's wife was this salty.

[Aellex]

Eve was made using one of Adam's ribs. That makes her a clone of Adam, male. However in the Bible Eve seems to identify as a woman, so that makes her MtF trans.

Even if we're to humor that weird circle-jerk of your, had Eve been a clone to Adam and thus male, she wouldn't have been able to have union with him and birth children.
Hence even if we're to accept the premises of your argument, it still doesn't work.