Transgender Discussion Thread III: Vote in our poll!

[Geneviev]

How can I explain to a certain person that I am trans and therefore can't sleep at their house? There doesn't seem to be a good way to do it.

Why can't you sleep there?

Explaining my morning routine would be a bit difficult, to say the least. They don't know I'm trans.

[Thuzbekistan]

Why can't you sleep there?

Explaining my morning routine would be a bit difficult, to say the least. They don't know I'm trans.

Hmmm just flat out tell them. Worked well for my brother when he came out gay last year. Brought his boyfriend in to an extremely conservative family and told us. We welcomed him and gave em both a beer. If they're a good friend and you can trust them, coming out shouldn't be a bad thing.

[Vassenor]

Looks like we're doing this dance again.

Trump Plan Would Cut Back Health Care Protections for Transgender People

-frustrated sigh-

[Geneviev]

Looks like we're doing this dance again.

Trump Plan Would Cut Back Health Care Protections for Transgender People

-frustrated sigh-

No... Really? Not again. So even with my patience, I will never get hormones?

[Geneviev]

Explaining my morning routine would be a bit difficult, to say the least. They don't know I'm trans.

Hmmm just flat out tell them. Worked well for my brother when he came out gay last year. Brought his boyfriend in to an extremely conservative family and told us. We welcomed him and gave em both a beer. If they're a good friend and you can trust them, coming out shouldn't be a bad thing.

It wouldn't be a bad thing, but could very well make everything more complicated. Especially as they already think I'm odd. So no, just telling them isn't an option. The whole matter is extremely complicated, yeah? They know me as Sammy. Changing that isn't easy.

[Jelmatt]

Explaining my morning routine would be a bit difficult, to say the least. They don't know I'm trans.

Hmmm just flat out tell them. Worked well for my brother when he came out gay last year. Brought his boyfriend in to an extremely conservative family and told us. We welcomed him and gave em both a beer. If they're a good friend and you can trust them, coming out shouldn't be a bad thing.

It's really not that simple.

[Valgora]

Hmmm just flat out tell them. Worked well for my brother when he came out gay last year. Brought his boyfriend in to an extremely conservative family and told us. We welcomed him and gave em both a beer. If they're a good friend and you can trust them, coming out shouldn't be a bad thing.

It's really not that simple.

I'd say it depends on the family.
Obviously, good parents wouldn't disown their child for such a thing. However, terrible parents exist and would/will disown their own child for such a thing.
Beyond just parents - that's a bit more difficult. Especially if there are family members you barely know thanks to having a large family.

However, that's all mostly guessing because I'm not gay or trans and I don't know many offline homosexuals and I only know one trans person offline.

[Cekoviu]

Looks like we're doing this dance again.

Trump Plan Would Cut Back Health Care Protections for Transgender People

-frustrated sigh-

I wish I could move to Canada or Sweden or something.

[Grenartia]

I wish I had some advice, but I don't really have genital dysphoria. I'm sorry.



Just, lol. You've clearly never asked a ciswoman about her morning routine.

Considering I live with one and have had many a gf who i have watched, yes. They hardly NEED to work on their presentation. They just do because if a stupid pecking order that society places on women that I find greatly displeasing.

There's a few trans girls who probably don't need to work on their presentation, either.

Explaining my morning routine would be a bit difficult, to say the least. They don't know I'm trans.

Hmmm just flat out tell them. Worked well for my brother when he came out gay last year. Brought his boyfriend in to an extremely conservative family and told us. We welcomed him and gave em both a beer. If they're a good friend and you can trust them, coming out shouldn't be a bad thing.

What worked for your brother won't necessarily work for her.

1: Your brother was lucky.

2: Trans =/= gay, and we get treated differently by the average person than gay people do.

3: Sure, it shouldn't be a bad thing, but it all too often is, and if she doesn't feel safe coming out to them, I wouldn't pressure her into coming out anyways.

Looks like we're doing this dance again.

Trump Plan Would Cut Back Health Care Protections for Transgender People

-frustrated sigh-

We need to fucking impeach the fucker already.

Hmmm just flat out tell them. Worked well for my brother when he came out gay last year. Brought his boyfriend in to an extremely conservative family and told us. We welcomed him and gave em both a beer. If they're a good friend and you can trust them, coming out shouldn't be a bad thing.

It wouldn't be a bad thing, but could very well make everything more complicated. Especially as they already think I'm odd. So no, just telling them isn't an option. The whole matter is extremely complicated, yeah? They know me as Sammy. Changing that isn't easy.

To be fair, at least the name they know you as isn't gendered. Mind if I ask why its a big deal why they think you're odd already, and why the matter is complicated?

[Thuzbekistan]

I wasnt pressuring her. She asked a question on a thread. I gave my 2 cents.

As for transgirls needing to work to look the part, except for a rare situation, I cannot imagine a situation where a male would not have to work to seem like a female.

[Dumb Ideologies]

I wasnt pressuring her. She asked a question on a thread. I gave my 2 cents.

As for transgirls needing to work to look the part, except for a rare situation, I cannot imagine a situation where a male would not have to work to seem like a female.

The possible is not limited to the constraints of your imagination.

[Saiwania]

Generally biological women are very easy to tell from a biological man. Even my friend Ashley, who cuts her hair like a dude and wears dudes clothing still has the physique and facial structure of a woman.

Sex change operations can have a near perfect result these days at portraying a desired sex. There really and truly is no way to tell for certain. It really is a damned shame. In the 19th century and before, when there was no such thing as a sex change, when sex and gender was set in stone from birth, and people had no power to change that. Yes the old days! When everyone had to be cisgender, that was when the world was truly right and proper.

[Cekoviu]

Generally biological women are very easy to tell from a biological man. Even my friend Ashley, who cuts her hair like a dude and wears dudes clothing still has the physique and facial structure of a woman.

Sex change operations can have a near perfect result these days at portraying a desired sex. There really and truly is no way to tell for certain. It really is a damned shame. In the 19th century and before, when there was no such thing as a sex change, when sex and gender was set in stone from birth, and people had no power to change that. Yes the old days! When everyone had to be cisgender, that was when the world was truly right and proper.

Are you joking?
Btw, quite a few trans people can pass with just hormones, no surgery required.

[New Emeline]

Sex change operations can have a near perfect result these days at portraying a desired sex. There really and truly is no way to tell for certain. It really is a damned shame. In the 19th century and before, when there was no such thing as a sex change, when sex and gender was set in stone from birth, and people had no power to change that. Yes the old days! When everyone had to be cisgender, that was when the world was truly right and proper.

Are you joking?
Btw, quite a few trans people can pass with just hormones, no surgery required.

Unfortunately, I don't think he's joking.

[Ang Wika]

When everyone had to be cisgender, that was when the world was truly right and proper.

Even, when not everyone was
"Any human must be born in a body paired with any gender that are possible, so long as it is cis"

[Cekoviu]

Are you joking?
Btw, quite a few trans people can pass with just hormones, no surgery required.

Unfortunately, I don't think he's joking.

Hard to tell. Saiwania seems to flipflop on positions a lot.

[New Emeline]

Unfortunately, I don't think he's joking.

Hard to tell. Saiwania seems to flipflop on positions a lot.

He is the first white supremacist Hillary voter I've ever encountered.

[Cekoviu]

Hard to tell. Saiwania seems to flipflop on positions a lot.

He is the first white supremacist Hillary voter I've ever encountered.

I didn't realize Saiwania was a white supremacist.

[New Emeline]

He is the first white supremacist Hillary voter I've ever encountered.

I didn't realize Saiwania was a white supremacist.

Yup. At least, last time I checked.

[Vassenor]

Generally biological women are very easy to tell from a biological man. Even my friend Ashley, who cuts her hair like a dude and wears dudes clothing still has the physique and facial structure of a woman.

Sex change operations can have a near perfect result these days at portraying a desired sex. There really and truly is no way to tell for certain. It really is a damned shame. In the 19th century and before, when there was no such thing as a sex change, when sex and gender was set in stone from birth, and people had no power to change that. Yes the old days! When everyone had to be cisgender, that was when the world was truly right and proper.

Thankfully, the world has moved on from those days.

[Geneviev]

Considering I live with one and have had many a gf who i have watched, yes. They hardly NEED to work on their presentation. They just do because if a stupid pecking order that society places on women that I find greatly displeasing.

There's a few trans girls who probably don't need to work on their presentation, either.

Hmmm just flat out tell them. Worked well for my brother when he came out gay last year. Brought his boyfriend in to an extremely conservative family and told us. We welcomed him and gave em both a beer. If they're a good friend and you can trust them, coming out shouldn't be a bad thing.

What worked for your brother won't necessarily work for her.

1: Your brother was lucky.

2: Trans =/= gay, and we get treated differently by the average person than gay people do.

3: Sure, it shouldn't be a bad thing, but it all too often is, and if she doesn't feel safe coming out to them, I wouldn't pressure her into coming out anyways.

Looks like we're doing this dance again.

Trump Plan Would Cut Back Health Care Protections for Transgender People

-frustrated sigh-

We need to fucking impeach the fucker already.

It wouldn't be a bad thing, but could very well make everything more complicated. Especially as they already think I'm odd. So no, just telling them isn't an option. The whole matter is extremely complicated, yeah? They know me as Sammy. Changing that isn't easy.

To be fair, at least the name they know you as isn't gendered. Mind if I ask why its a big deal why they think you're odd already, and why the matter is complicated?

That is a lucky thing, yes. The matter is complicated because this person has known me since I was four and we were friends for that long. They're not going to change anything easily. They already make fun of my long hair and that sort of thing. Also, coming out would only help because I could sleep over at her house without having to explain my morning routine.

[Vassenor]

Hrm... So since I pretty much have to deal with having a face like a brick, has anyone got any advice for stuff like contouring?

[Valgora]

He is the first white supremacist Hillary voter I've ever encountered.

I didn't realize Saiwania was a white supremacist.

He's a white nationalist that's a gun control advocate and voted for Hillary.
Yes, it's confusing.

[Felt Karpit]

Yes the old days! When everyone had to be cisgender, that was when the world was truly right and proper.

Aw yes, the good old days where our genitals determined what personality we are supposed to have.

[The New California Republic]

Yes the old days! When everyone had to be cisgender, that was when the world was truly right and proper.

Aw yes, the good old days where our genitals determined what personality we are supposed to have.

I mean it partially did before the days of HRT. I mean, one of my exes was FTM trans, and he said that the testosterone was making him fly off the handle at times, in situations that wouldn't have caused that reaction before the HRT started.