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Transgender Discussion Thread III: Vote in our poll!

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What should the first subtitle of our next thread be?

Trans Men Are Not Women
23
24%
Anti-Cistamines
10
10%
Please Don't Deadnaming Eve
3
3%
Is This Destroying My Free Speech
8
8%
We Know More About This Than You
11
11%
HRT And Crumpets
26
27%
Pro-Nouns & Anti-Verbs
16
16%
 
Total votes : 97

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The Alexanderians
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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:32 am

Grenartia wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:No Nana mentioned in the OP?
Is she not supposed to be contracted regarding this thread?


She was?

Where? Did I miss her mentioning? I don't think I did...
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Postby Grenartia » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:36 am

The Alexanderians wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
She was?

Where? Did I miss her mentioning? I don't think I did...


No, I did ctrl-F for her name, and your mention was the only one. I was referring to being unaware that she was supposed to have been informed of this thread reincarnating.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:38 am

Grenartia wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Where? Did I miss her mentioning? I don't think I did...


No, I did ctrl-F for her name, and your mention was the only one. I was referring to being unaware that she was supposed to have been informed of this thread reincarnating.

I figured since she had involvement in the past. Was she not one of those that were most heavily involved?
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
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Women belong in the kitchen
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Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
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Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby WaRtArIa » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:41 am

Let's say that there's a male who is in love with females. He would be considered heterosexual.

Then, that male becomes a female.

That female is still in love with females.

Would that MtF be considered a heterosexual or a lesbian?

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Postby Philjia » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:42 am

The Alexanderians wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
No, I did ctrl-F for her name, and your mention was the only one. I was referring to being unaware that she was supposed to have been informed of this thread reincarnating.

I figured since she had involvement in the past. Was she not one of those that were most heavily involved?


She largely cut ties during a slightly unpleasant period during which several regulars became less and less receptive to help, and a couple of others jumped ship as it appeared to be sinking.

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Postby WaRtArIa » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:46 am

Wartaria wrote:Let's say that there's a male who is in love with females. He would be considered heterosexual.

Then, that male becomes a female.

That female is still in love with females.

Would that MtF be considered a heterosexual or a lesbian?

I know that that is covered in the OP, but the OP never gave a clear answer.

I'm not trying to discriminate, I'm just being curious.

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Postby Philjia » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:57 am

Wartaria wrote:
Wartaria wrote:Let's say that there's a male who is in love with females. He would be considered heterosexual.

Then, that male becomes a female.

That female is still in love with females.

Would that MtF be considered a heterosexual or a lesbian?

I know that that is covered in the OP, but the OP never gave a clear answer.

I'm not trying to discriminate, I'm just being curious.


Women attracted to women are lesbians.

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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:20 am

Philjia wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:I figured since she had involvement in the past. Was she not one of those that were most heavily involved?


She largely cut ties during a slightly unpleasant period during which several regulars became less and less receptive to help, and a couple of others jumped ship as it appeared to be sinking.

I see. Unfortunate.
Philjia wrote:
Wartaria wrote:I know that that is covered in the OP, but the OP never gave a clear answer.

I'm not trying to discriminate, I'm just being curious.


Women attracted to women are lesbians.

Except when they're bi :p
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Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:23 am

Philjia wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:I figured since she had involvement in the past. Was she not one of those that were most heavily involved?


She largely cut ties during a slightly unpleasant period during which several regulars became less and less receptive to help, and a couple of others jumped ship as it appeared to be sinking.



My fault. >.<
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:06 am

Since the last thread is locked, could we get a mod to stick a link to this one at the end of it?
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Postby Philjia » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:11 am

Vassenor wrote:
Philjia wrote:
She largely cut ties during a slightly unpleasant period during which several regulars became less and less receptive to help, and a couple of others jumped ship as it appeared to be sinking.



My fault. >.<


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Postby Val Halla » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:12 am

Got some hair removal cream. It stinks. :p
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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:15 am

Val Halla wrote:Got some hair removal cream. It stinks. :p

Like it sucks or it physically smells offputting?
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You can't fight the friction
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Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
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Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

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Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:20 am

Val Halla wrote:Got some hair removal cream. It stinks. :p


Be careful with that, I got burns on my hands using it.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:23 am

Val Halla wrote:Got some hair removal cream. It stinks. :p


Well it has to be loaded with chemicals that break down human hair. Of course it's going to smell bad.

It smells worse once the reaction starts.
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Postby Val Halla » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:03 am

The Alexanderians wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Got some hair removal cream. It stinks. :p

Like it sucks or it physically smells offputting?

It smells pretty bad.
Neutraligon wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Got some hair removal cream. It stinks. :p


Be careful with that, I got burns on my hands using it.

I've used it, and it's fine. At least the spot test was.
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Postby Torsiedelle » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:59 pm

I oughtta get hair removal cream. That, and estrogen.

It burns, right? I've only seen one person use hair removal cream on a dare, and it sucked for them.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:00 pm

Torsiedelle wrote:I oughtta get hair removal cream. That, and estrogen.

It burns, right? I've only seen one person use hair removal cream on a dare, and it sucked for them.


I've used hair removal cream on my legs and underarms several times with no ill effects.
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Postby Noraika » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:51 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Torsiedelle wrote:I oughtta get hair removal cream. That, and estrogen.

It burns, right? I've only seen one person use hair removal cream on a dare, and it sucked for them.


I've used hair removal cream on my legs and underarms several times with no ill effects.

To be fair though, the face is A LOT more sensitive than the legs. Make sure you check out the stuff you got to make sure it's face-friendly. ;)
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:30 pm

It seems like I've slipped up in my weight loss mission and can't fit into my favorite dress. At least I have something to keep me honest and below 200 pounds.

Torsiedelle wrote:I oughtta get hair removal cream. That, and estrogen.

It burns, right? I've only seen one person use hair removal cream on a dare, and it sucked for them.

A warning about estrogen, if your hairs are dark then they may lose color and become the pesky hairs only tamed by electrolysis.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:26 am

Noraika wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I've used hair removal cream on my legs and underarms several times with no ill effects.

To be fair though, the face is A LOT more sensitive than the legs. Make sure you check out the stuff you got to make sure it's face-friendly. ;)


For the face, no more than 10 minutes. Otherwise, burns can develop.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:46 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Noraika wrote:To be fair though, the face is A LOT more sensitive than the legs. Make sure you check out the stuff you got to make sure it's face-friendly. ;)


For the face, no more than 10 minutes. Otherwise, burns can develop.


Same reason why you need to be careful of your hands, since you use those to put the stuff on and take it off.
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Postby Torsiedelle » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:56 am

Hair removal cream seems to last a good while? Like, compared to a daily shave.

Knowing that estrogen may lighten hairs is also good. That, and hair removal are biggies for me, and obviously slimming down, although I'm already pretty skinny.
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:59 am

Wartaria wrote:
Wartaria wrote:Let's say that there's a male who is in love with females. He would be considered heterosexual.

Then, that male becomes a female.

That female is still in love with females.

Would that MtF be considered a heterosexual or a lesbian?

I know that that is covered in the OP, but the OP never gave a clear answer.

I'm not trying to discriminate, I'm just being curious.

Though this was already covered, thought I'd answer it for my part anyway (and to get this thread on my list of threads I've posted in):

I was born with a female body, I've only ever been attracted to males. I'm hoping to eventually transition my body to male (or at least so close you can't tell without looking in my pants), but I already identify as a gay man.

...I've even got a con badge that says "I'm a gay man trapped in a woman's body". :lol:
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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:38 am

Torsiedelle wrote:Hair removal cream seems to last a good while? Like, compared to a daily shave.

Knowing that estrogen may lighten hairs is also good. That, and hair removal are biggies for me, and obviously slimming down, although I'm already pretty skinny.

I might invest in the stuff to fix my ridiculous growth pattern...
Anyone got some suggestions?
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The Archregimancy wrote:
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Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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