Eh. It's alright, you can call me she/her if you want, even though I don't really know if I'm trans. I just don't know if I should actively tell people call me that in my sig and shit.
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by The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:25 pm

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by The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:26 pm
First American Empire wrote:Alright, I'll be the first to try using female pronouns for Xenopolis. Her economic views make no sense, and she would probably cause a recession if she ever actually got them implemented, though her positions on social issues are actually pretty good.

by Soviet Computocracy » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:32 pm
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Ey, I'm still not sure whether I even am trans tho.

by Auzkhia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:36 pm

by First American Empire » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:02 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:First American Empire wrote:
One of the first things that happens to every trans person upon coming out is getting criticized by other trans people on economic policy. No exceptions.
Then when you get older, drift away from activism, and become more conservative you get screamed at on social issues for selling out. The friend-circle of strife.

by First American Empire » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:04 pm
Auzkhia wrote:Ifreann wrote:It's philosophical. Like Plato's dialogues, but with better costumes.
Pretty much, she plays a variety of characters showing a wide variety of beliefs, she portrays many ideologues belong to: anarchism, authoritarian communism, social democracy, classical liberalism, TERF, the alt-right, and nazism.

by Auzkhia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:21 pm
First American Empire wrote:Auzkhia wrote:Pretty much, she plays a variety of characters showing a wide variety of beliefs, she portrays many ideologues belong to: anarchism, authoritarian communism, social democracy, classical liberalism, TERF, the alt-right, and nazism.
This sounds really interesting. I've heard about her but haven't watched anything by her yet. Where's a good starting point?

by First American Empire » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:33 pm

by Auzkhia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:47 pm
First American Empire wrote:I think I'll just watch in chronological order then. There aren't too many videos.

by Proctopeo » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:24 pm
Auzkhia wrote:First American Empire wrote:I think I'll just watch in chronological order then. There aren't too many videos.
I like most of her videos, though the only one that left me a bit off-put was her video on incels, because of the comparison she made at the last segment. It was such an odd hot take. I could see where she comes from on stuff I personally disagree with her on. But overall think she has good stuff.

by Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:40 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Auzkhia wrote:I like most of her videos, though the only one that left me a bit off-put was her video on incels, because of the comparison she made at the last segment. It was such an odd hot take. I could see where she comes from on stuff I personally disagree with her on. But overall think she has good stuff.
What was the comparison? Was it low-hanging fruit, as it always is?

by Soviet Computocracy » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:56 pm
First American Empire wrote: I'm a SocDem

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by Auzkhia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:30 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Auzkhia wrote:I like most of her videos, though the only one that left me a bit off-put was her video on incels, because of the comparison she made at the last segment. It was such an odd hot take. I could see where she comes from on stuff I personally disagree with her on. But overall think she has good stuff.
What was the comparison? Was it low-hanging fruit, as it always is?

by Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:35 pm
Auzkhia wrote:Proctopeo wrote:What was the comparison? Was it low-hanging fruit, as it always is?
Watch the video at 22:45, it's where it starts.
She sees a similarity incel mentality among some trans people. Incel threads have selfies of normal looking men, yet incels tell each other that they look ugly and no one will ever love them. Her comparison with that is that in a trans selfie thread in /LGBT/ of 4chan that's like that. The 4chan /LGBT/ would tell a trans person they will never pass, and the conventional space will always say that a trans person perfectly passes. She said both /TTTT/ early transitioning women and incels have jargon, for example, she talks about the board's use of "hons" thinks some trans spaces were too much of a hugbox for them. She knows about them because her pictures and even sought their threads about them, because she saw allure in their deconstructive criticism, she was caught in a dichtomy of /tttt/ and reddit hons. Basically people either saying "You'll never pass", or "you look gorgeous, hon!" Obviously, it's a black-white fallacy.
Obviously trans women are not like incels, but I can see where she comes from, but it's a jarring comparison indeed. It has some shock value, I admit, there would be better ways to examine internalized transphobia.Ifreann wrote:If I recall the video correctly, what Auzkhia is talking about is when she compared incels to trans women on /TTTT/.
Exactly!

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First American Empire wrote: I support Capitalism

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