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Trans Men Are Not Women
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24%
Anti-Cistamines
10
10%
Please Don't Deadnaming Eve
3
3%
Is This Destroying My Free Speech
8
8%
We Know More About This Than You
11
11%
HRT And Crumpets
26
27%
Pro-Nouns & Anti-Verbs
16
16%
 
Total votes : 97

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Auzkhia
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Postby Auzkhia » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:34 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Am I an egg?

Usually eggs don't have self awareness.

However, I should not call you an egg, but if you are questioning your gender, do let us know if you want help with getting answers.

How do you feel about your assigned gender at birth, expressions? And, would you rather be something else, anything?
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:04 am

Auzkhia wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Am I an egg?

Usually eggs don't have self awareness.

However, I should not call you an egg, but if you are questioning your gender, do let us know if you want help with getting answers.

How do you feel about your assigned gender at birth, expressions? And, would you rather be something else, anything?

I d'know how I feel about it. My gender expression? I don't know, I guess I've always been somewhere between the centre and moderately masculine. Would I rather be something else? Maybe. Can't say.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:13 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Am I an egg?


That's something you have to determine for yourself. If you have doubts about your gender identity, the best thing I know is to experiment and see what feels right to you.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:18 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Am I an egg?


That's something you have to determine for yourself. If you have doubts about your gender identity, the best thing I know is to experiment and see what feels right to you.

Experiment how?
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:22 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
That's something you have to determine for yourself. If you have doubts about your gender identity, the best thing I know is to experiment and see what feels right to you.

Experiment how?


Aaand here comes all the egg recipe jokes rollin’ in...

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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:20 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Experiment how?


Aaand here comes all the egg recipe jokes rollin’ in...

You can't make an omelette without cracking a few jokes.
Pro: Liberty, Liberalism, Capitalism, Secularism, Equal opportunity, Direct Democracy, Windows Chauvinism, Progressive Rock, LGBT+ Rights, Live and let live tbh.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:48 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Aaand here comes all the egg recipe jokes rollin’ in...

You can't make an omelette without cracking a few jokes.


Nanomachines, son.

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Auzkhia
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Postby Auzkhia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:59 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:Usually eggs don't have self awareness.

However, I should not call you an egg, but if you are questioning your gender, do let us know if you want help with getting answers.

How do you feel about your assigned gender at birth, expressions? And, would you rather be something else, anything?

I d'know how I feel about it. My gender expression? I don't know, I guess I've always been somewhere between the centre and moderately masculine. Would I rather be something else? Maybe. Can't say.

Reading your sig at the moment, it says you are male, so presumably you were assigned male at birth. Could you see yourself as a woman, as a non-binary person? Or always a man?

Personally I always felt some vague disconnect with my agab, never felt like a man or a woman, so non-binary was the right fit for me, and still is.

If you have to ask, you might be. Don't worry too about dysphoria and euphoria at the moment, when I was questioning I had no idea had to recognize them, of course this is all based on my experiences, you may do something differently.
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Postby Soviet Technocracy6 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:04 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Experiment how?

You could always cross dress.

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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:34 am

Soviet Technocracy6 wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Experiment how?

You could always cross dress.

I doubt I'd feel especially... epic cross-dressing, but it could be fun. That said, I don't know how I'd get an opportunity to do it.
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Economic: 0.5
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I'm a 21 year old Australian. Liberalism with a dash of lolbert. I don't do as much research as I should.

I'm a MTF transgender person, so I'd prefer you use she/her pronouns on me. If not, he/him'll do.

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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:36 am

Auzkhia wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:I d'know how I feel about it. My gender expression? I don't know, I guess I've always been somewhere between the centre and moderately masculine. Would I rather be something else? Maybe. Can't say.

Reading your sig at the moment, it says you are male, so presumably you were assigned male at birth. Could you see yourself as a woman, as a non-binary person? Or always a man?

Personally I always felt some vague disconnect with my agab, never felt like a man or a woman, so non-binary was the right fit for me, and still is.

If you have to ask, you might be. Don't worry too about dysphoria and euphoria at the moment, when I was questioning I had no idea had to recognize them, of course this is all based on my experiences, you may do something differently.

I mean, I COULD see myself as a woman. Not really non-binary though. But I can still see myself as a man, just not a particularly impressive one. Maybe I've just got self-esteem issues.
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Economic: 0.5
Social: -8
I'm a 21 year old Australian. Liberalism with a dash of lolbert. I don't do as much research as I should.

I'm a MTF transgender person, so I'd prefer you use she/her pronouns on me. If not, he/him'll do.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:56 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Soviet Technocracy6 wrote:You could always cross dress.

I doubt I'd feel especially... epic cross-dressing, but it could be fun. That said, I don't know how I'd get an opportunity to do it.

Figure out roughly what size you are and order some clothes online so they are sent through the mail; then you could try them on at home.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:11 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:I doubt I'd feel especially... epic cross-dressing, but it could be fun. That said, I don't know how I'd get an opportunity to do it.

Figure out roughly what size you are and order some clothes online so they are sent through the mail; then you could try them on at home.

Lol no. I still live with my parents, boss.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:13 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Figure out roughly what size you are and order some clothes online so they are sent through the mail; then you could try them on at home.

Lol no. I still live with my parents, boss.

Oh right. Well maybe that's something to do when you are living on your own at college etc.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:15 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Lol no. I still live with my parents, boss.

Oh right. Well maybe that's something to do when you are living on your own at college etc.

Yeah. Their house, their rules, I guess.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:17 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Oh right. Well maybe that's something to do when you are living on your own at college etc.

Yeah. Their house, their rules, I guess.

Tbh it was only when I was a bit more independent that I was able to explore my own sexuality. Even with fairly open parents like mine it is still better to do this stuff when you are more independent, as you feel more comfortable with doing it.
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:23 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:Yeah. Their house, their rules, I guess.

Tbh it was only when I was a bit more independent that I was able to explore my own sexuality. Even with fairly open parents like mine it is still better to do this stuff when you are more independent, as you feel more comfortable with doing it.

And you dont get pushed in any direction based on rebellion, like my brother did. Went full "I'm gay!" And went full stereotypical gay, then later said he was bi when he moved out and just acted normally and did what he wanted. He even shaved his legs to make a point.

Nothing wrong with these acts, but acting like something you arent just in rebellion is not a good motivation or state of mind to be exploring ones sexuality in.
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Postby Soviet Technocracy6 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:23 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Soviet Technocracy6 wrote:You could always cross dress.

I doubt I'd feel especially... epic cross-dressing, but it could be fun. That said, I don't know how I'd get an opportunity to do it.

Drag? Call some gay bars up, someone can probably set you up.
Admittedly you can’t actually do it in the bar maybe. but you could probably find people to dress with otherwise.

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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:25 am

Soviet Technocracy6 wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:I doubt I'd feel especially... epic cross-dressing, but it could be fun. That said, I don't know how I'd get an opportunity to do it.

Drag? Call some gay bars up, someone can probably set you up.
Admittedly you can’t actually do it in the bar maybe. but you could probably find people to dress with otherwise.

Woah. This is moving too fast for me. All I said was that I wonder if I'm an egg.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:31 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Soviet Technocracy6 wrote:Drag? Call some gay bars up, someone can probably set you up.
Admittedly you can’t actually do it in the bar maybe. but you could probably find people to dress with otherwise.

Woah. This is moving too fast for me. All I said was that I wonder if I'm an egg.

You're in control. We are just randoms on the Internet who don't know you. You will know yourself in terms of which suggestions are applicable to you, and which ones are off-beam.
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Torrocca » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:31 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Soviet Technocracy6 wrote:Drag? Call some gay bars up, someone can probably set you up.
Admittedly you can’t actually do it in the bar maybe. but you could probably find people to dress with otherwise.

Woah. This is moving too fast for me. All I said was that I wonder if I'm an egg.


Well, why do you feel like you're an egg? Let's start with that instead of diving headfirst into all that other stuff.
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Postby Soviet Technocracy6 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:31 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Woah. This is moving too fast for me. All I said was that I wonder if I'm an egg.

You want your local non-binary group. They should have no problem with you just being a questioning person.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:31 am

Can someone explain what an Egg is?
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Postby Soviet Technocracy6 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:33 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Can someone explain what an Egg is?

It’s where babies come from in non-mammalian species.

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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:34 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Can someone explain what an Egg is?

Apparently, it's a trans person who doesn't yet know they're trans.
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I'm a MTF transgender person, so I'd prefer you use she/her pronouns on me. If not, he/him'll do.

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