Transgender Discussion Thread III: Vote in our poll!

[Western Vale Confederacy]

So, having done a little more research, I'll say that I'm genderqueer.

Guess I posted that here just so I can say it somewhere.

Anyone have any rsources available for genderqueer people (as opposed to full trans people?)

I know this is gonna involve a lot of digging, but there should be plenty in the OP. Also, for what its worth, we're just as trans as binary trans people.

What exactly is the consensus on feminine males then?

[Grenartia]

I know this is gonna involve a lot of digging, but there should be plenty in the OP. Also, for what its worth, we're just as trans as binary trans people.

What exactly is the consensus on feminine males then?

What's the price for a gallon of milk in Beijing?

[Western Vale Confederacy]

What exactly is the consensus on feminine males then?

What's the price for a gallon of milk in Beijing?

Twelve yuans, for a liter of whole milk.

[Maxine IV]

So, having done a little more research, I'll say that I'm genderqueer.

Guess I posted that here just so I can say it somewhere.

Anyone have any rsources available for genderqueer people (as opposed to full trans people?)

I know this is gonna involve a lot of digging, but there should be plenty in the OP. Also, for what its worth, we're just as trans as binary trans people.

Sorry if I offended you. Still getting my head around what this all means.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I know this is gonna involve a lot of digging, but there should be plenty in the OP. Also, for what its worth, we're just as trans as binary trans people.

Sorry if I offended you. Still getting my head around what this all means.

But what exactly are you feeling when it comes to expression and identity?

[The Blaatschapen]

What exactly is the consensus on feminine males then?

What's the price for a gallon of milk in Beijing?

No idea. They use SI over there

[Thama]

What's the price for a gallon of milk in Beijing?

No idea. They use SI over there

What's the price for 3.8 litres of milk in Beijing?

Also what's this phrase even mean

[Grenartia]

What's the price for a gallon of milk in Beijing?

Twelve yuans, for a liter of whole milk.

My point in asking that was to illustrate my confusion on what your question had to do with what I said.

I know this is gonna involve a lot of digging, but there should be plenty in the OP. Also, for what its worth, we're just as trans as binary trans people.

Sorry if I offended you. Still getting my head around what this all means.

No, I wasn't offended, and I'm sorry if it came across like I was. I totally understand what you're going through, I used to be where you are right now.

No idea. They use SI over there

What's the price for 3.8 litres of milk in Beijing?

Also what's this phrase even mean

There's a phrase in English that goes along the lines of "What's that got to do with the price of milk in China?" Generally used as a way of telling the other person that something they brought up is irrelevant to the current topic of discussion.

[Hanafuridake]

I know this is gonna involve a lot of digging, but there should be plenty in the OP. Also, for what its worth, we're just as trans as binary trans people.

What exactly is the consensus on feminine males then?

Feminine males aren't trans (I mean, there are transmen who are feminine, but being a feminine male in and of itself doesn't make you queer). You can be an ultra-feminine man and be completely cis & straight.

[The Shining Purple Light]

I'm looking for information, resoutces, etc, on identifying as both male and female, if that's even a thing. I know I'm definitely feminine, but I don't think I'm trans because I don't reject my male self. I came here because I have no idea wherelse to go. Any advice would be helpful.

So, having done a little more research, I'll say that I'm genderqueer.

Guess I posted that here just so I can say it somewhere.

Anyone have any rsources available for genderqueer people (as opposed to full trans people?)

Bigender/Genderqueer, whatever floats your boat!
Being trans isn't limited to being a trans woman or a trans man, being trans is being not in complete alignment with the gender you were assigned at birth.

[Grenartia]

So, having done a little more research, I'll say that I'm genderqueer.

Guess I posted that here just so I can say it somewhere.

Anyone have any rsources available for genderqueer people (as opposed to full trans people?)

Bigender/Genderqueer, whatever floats your boat!
Being trans isn't limited to being a trans woman or a trans man, being trans is being not in complete alignment with the gender you were assigned at birth.

Essentially, this.

[Seangoli]

How the hell does one believe that it is a "corruption"?

Its a pretty recent, but shockingly common belief, especially in religious and TERF circles. I believe the term is "social contagion", at least in the more secular circles, but the more fundamentalist ones probably chalk it up to demonic possession.

Nah, nothing so sinister as possession usually. You are just being influenced and brainwashed by sinners into sinning, according to the nuts.

[Grenartia]

Its a pretty recent, but shockingly common belief, especially in religious and TERF circles. I believe the term is "social contagion", at least in the more secular circles, but the more fundamentalist ones probably chalk it up to demonic possession.

Nah, nothing so sinister as possession usually. You are just being influenced and brainwashed by sinners into sinning, according to the nuts.

I'm pretty sure a significant portion of them unironically believe its demon possession.

[Hanafuridake]

Nah, nothing so sinister as possession usually. You are just being influenced and brainwashed by sinners into sinning, according to the nuts.

I'm pretty sure a significant portion of them unironically believe its demon possession.

If I only I could convince the devil to possess the entire male population then.

[Seangoli]

If you believe what the mother says. Just because the court sided with an abusive mother who wants to force her son to pretend to be female, doesnt justify her actions

So you are arguing that you know better than the court who handled this case because... you read some shitty, poorly written and shamelessly biased article on lifesitenews?

James has been known to act as a girl only under his mother's precense. He has been pressured into saying those things by his mother. He did not act that way with anyone else, or at least until the mother got full custody and was able to enact her disturbing fantasies onto him

Alternative explanation: Luna presented as female under his mother's care because she's not a bigoted pile of shit like her father, who verbally and physically abused both Luna and her mother.

Meanwhile, he believes the Father, who lied practically about every aspect of his life prior to getting married (lied about not being married before, lied about career and employment, lied about income, lied about military service, etc. Etc) He then continued to do so after being married, and said lying was the reason they got divorced.


Color me skeptical on his version of events.

[West Leas Oros 2]

I'm pretty sure a significant portion of them unironically believe its demon possession.

If I only I could convince the devil to possess the entire male population then.

>implying men aren’t already devils

(This post made by evil Oros)

[Dumb Ideologies]

Nah, nothing so sinister as possession usually. You are just being influenced and brainwashed by sinners into sinning, according to the nuts.

I'm pretty sure a significant portion of them unironically believe its demon possession.

To be fair, a Pride march is virtually indiscernible from the invasion of nightmarish creatures from the depths of hell

[Auzkhia]

So, having done a little more research, I'll say that I'm genderqueer.

Guess I posted that here just so I can say it somewhere.

Anyone have any rsources available for genderqueer people (as opposed to full trans people?)

I know this is gonna involve a lot of digging, but there should be plenty in the OP. Also, for what its worth, we're just as trans as binary trans people.

This, I'm transgender and genderqueer. It's important that trans resources include non-binary people, not just binary people (men and women).

Bigender/Genderqueer, whatever floats your boat!
Being trans isn't limited to being a trans woman or a trans man, being trans is being not in complete alignment with the gender you were assigned at birth.

Essentially, this.

Unless you were assigned nb or genderqueer at birth, you can be trans.

[Talvezout]

This question has probably been asked a thousand times before so apologies for me for treading on old ground, but what is everyone's thoughts on people without dysphoria who say they are trans? Would you say they part of the trans community?

For clarification, I'm part of the LGBT+ spectrum, although I'm not trans.

[Proctopeo]

This question has probably been asked a thousand times before so apologies for me for treading on old ground, but what is everyone's thoughts on people without dysphoria who say they are trans? Would you say they part of the trans community?

For clarification, I'm part of the LGBT+ spectrum, although I'm not trans.

That's a pretty controversial topic, so this thread's gonna be kinda interesting for the next day or so.

Personally, as someone who's also part of GLBT+ but not trans (but has talked to transmedicalists and anti-transmedicalists alike, so it's not like I'm talking completely out of my ass) I think they're not.

[Talvezout]

This question has probably been asked a thousand times before so apologies for me for treading on old ground, but what is everyone's thoughts on people without dysphoria who say they are trans? Would you say they part of the trans community?

For clarification, I'm part of the LGBT+ spectrum, although I'm not trans.

That's a pretty controversial topic, so this thread's gonna be kinda interesting for the next day or so.

Personally, as someone who's also part of GLBT+ but not trans (but has talked to transmedicalists and anti-transmedicalists alike, so it's not like I'm talking completely out of my ass) I think they're not.

Shoot, I don't want to start a slapfight here so I'm really sorry if it does

And yeah, from someone here who knows both transmeds and anti-transmeds, I think that they're perfectly fine in exploring their gender and their gender expression, but when it comes to the trans label, I honestly don't want to make the call because I haven't had any experience with gender dysphoria.

[Hediacrana]

As far as I'm aware, most of the regulars in this thread actually tend to agree that transmedicalism is bad.

Also, it's useful to distinguish between social and physical dysphoria; there are trans people who see little or no need to pursue medical changes, but who nevertheless do experience dysphoria due to being misgendered in social situations.

[Auzkhia]

This question has probably been asked a thousand times before so apologies for me for treading on old ground, but what is everyone's thoughts on people without dysphoria who say they are trans? Would you say they part of the trans community?

For clarification, I'm part of the LGBT+ spectrum, although I'm not trans.

Gender dysphoria is not a prerequisite to be trans, not being your assigned gender at birth is the definition. Dysphoria is a bug, not a feature. A lot of people forget that gender euphoria and that was a more motivating factor in discovering my gender than dysphoria, I thought I wasn't dysphoric enough, that was the cost of transmedicalism.

I do plan to do one aspect of medical transitioning, but that doesn't make me trans, being something other male makes me trans.

As far as I'm aware, most of the regulars in this thread actually tend to agree that transmedicalism is bad.

Also, it's useful to distinguish between social and physical dysphoria; there are trans people who see little or no need to pursue medical changes, but who nevertheless do experience dysphoria due to being misgendered in social situations.

I say most of mine is social, I want to feminize my body a bit, but have no desire to pass as or be a binary gender. I like being transfeminine and non-binary and feel euphoria from my gender.

[Hediacrana]

I say most of mine is social, I want to feminize my body a bit, but have no desire to pass as or be a binary gender. I like being transfeminine and non-binary and feel euphoria from my gender.

Exactly the same here, honestly.

[Khasinkonia]

I say most of mine is social, I want to feminize my body a bit, but have no desire to pass as or be a binary gender. I like being transfeminine and non-binary and feel euphoria from my gender.

Exactly the same here, honestly.

And then I’m entirely the opposite. I need the right body more than the right social stuff. I could pretty easily tolerate being a pretty girl who’s inexplicably referred to as he/him with my deadname used by most folks, while the opposite would be better than the partial recognition I have now, but I don’t really ever feel much euphoria over just being a girl.