Transgender Discussion Thread III: Vote in our poll!

[Farnhamia]

Transgender is a disease called Gender Dysphoria. Transgender suicide rates are 36% higher than normal suicide rates, and that doesn't change even in communities which are open to people inflicted by it. It is a mental disorder just like being born a hermaphrodite is a physical deformity.

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[Auzkhia]

Anyway, I bought some clothes, a dress, some skirts, and an undershirt. I'm adding feminine clothes to my mix, yet my mother is expecting I perform some strict androgyny and gender neutrality. It's like some cis people hold trans people to some strict conformity and be hyper conforming and doubt you if you play around with gender expression like I do, and it really says when most people imagine gender neutral as something that's a bit masculine.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Y’know, even in the event that transgenderism was a mental condition...

Wouldn’t transition be the cure to it? Why deny it?

[Auzkhia]

Y’know, even in the event that transgenderism was a mental condition...

Wouldn’t transition be the cure to it? Why deny it?

DSM-V says gender dysphoria, not being trans, is the mental condition, and it is broadly defined, not 100% of trans people have it, it's not a requirement, I was not aware of what I feel until started transitioning, it's hard to tell in most cases.

And yes, the best way to relieve gender dysphoria is to transition, any credible therapist will tell you that. Only reason not to? They're cranks trying to continue the repression of trans people, especially kids and youth.

[Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar]

Transgender is a disease called Gender Dysphoria. Transgender suicide rates are 36% higher than normal suicide rates, and that doesn't change even in communities which are open to people inflicted by it. It is a mental disorder just like being born a hermaphrodite is a physical deformity.

The suicide rate is significantly higher for trans folk because they often deal with intense social pressure due to a part of themselves they could never really help. Quite frankly, it's people with mindsets not dissimilar to yours that are perpetuating the atmosphere that leads to trans people not feeling safe and secure emotionally or physically.

I care tremendously about trans people. I want them to get the help they need to sort out and resolve their gender dysphoria.

[Valrifell]

The suicide rate is significantly higher for trans folk because they often deal with intense social pressure due to a part of themselves they could never really help. Quite frankly, it's people with mindsets not dissimilar to yours that are perpetuating the atmosphere that leads to trans people not feeling safe and secure emotionally or physically.

I care tremendously about trans people. I want them to get the help they need to sort out and resolve their gender dysphoria.

Then you ought to support and accept their transition since it's the best treatment as others have noted.

[Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar]

I care tremendously about trans people. I want them to get the help they need to sort out and resolve their gender dysphoria.

Then you ought to support and accept their transition since it's the best treatment as others have noted.

Accepting them as outside the gender binary has been proven to change nothing about suicide rates and there are multiple examples of counseling solving Gender Dysphoria.

[Kowani]

Then you ought to support and accept their transition since it's the best treatment as others have noted.

Accepting them as outside the gender binary has been proven to change nothing about suicide rates and there are multiple examples of counseling solving Gender Dysphoria.

Citation needed.
And no, Conversion Therapy does not count as counseling.

[WENDIP SHIPPER]

There are some transgender men and women who freeze their eggs and sperm before transitioning. It's a hard decision to make because insurance companies often don't cover these types of things and the trans men and women who undergo such things end up having to pay teens of thousands of dollars out of pocket.

I know that not every trans person wants to start a family but I thougt it was worth mentioning as another example of anti trans discrimination.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

There are some transgender men and women who freeze their eggs and sperm before transitioning. It's a hard decision to make because insurance companies often don't cover these types of things and the trans men and women who undergo such things end up having to pay teens of thousands of dollars out of pocket.

I know that not every trans person wants to start a family but I thougt it was worth mentioning as another example of anti trans discrimination.

Insurance companies screws us all equally, to be frank.

[Vassenor]

Then you ought to support and accept their transition since it's the best treatment as others have noted.

Accepting them as outside the gender binary has been proven to change nothing about suicide rates and there are multiple examples of counseling solving Gender Dysphoria.

Science disagrees with you there.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Accepting them as outside the gender binary has been proven to change nothing about suicide rates and there are multiple examples of counseling solving Gender Dysphoria.

Science disagrees with you there.

I don’t think a study is necessary to figure out that acceptance usually leads to people not wanting to fucking kill themselves as much.

[Vassenor]

Science disagrees with you there.

I don’t think a study is necessary to figure out that acceptance usually leads to people not wanting to fucking kill themselves as much.

When someone says that a thing has been proven, it's always nice to be able to show that what was actually proven was the exact opposite.

[ELwurd]

I don’t think a study is necessary to figure out that acceptance usually leads to people not wanting to fucking kill themselves as much.

When someone says that a thing has been proven, it's always nice to be able to show that what was actually proven was the exact opposite.

it's legitimately one of the most hilarious tropes on the internet and right-wingers keep falling into it

[Imperio Centroamericano]

Hormone replacement therapy should be made as widely available and affordable as possible for all transgender people wishing to transition, and it should be a much simpler, faster process for trans people to change their names if they wish. Also, they should be able to use the restroom of the gender they identify as (not their assigned gender) if they so choose. Parents who intentionally deadname and/or misgender their children should be charged with child abuse.

[Auzkhia]

Hormone replacement therapy should be made as widely available and affordable as possible for all transgender people wishing to transition, and it should be a much simpler, faster process for trans people to change their names if they wish. Also, they should be able to use the restroom of the gender they identify as (not their assigned gender) if they so choose. Parents who intentionally deadname and/or misgender their children should be charged with child abuse.

100% agreed, friendo!

[Vassenor]

Meanwhile I'm trying to figure out exactly where my body confidence and positivity went today.

And yes I know I'm doing myself no favours.

[Thuzbekistan]

Meanwhile I'm trying to figure out exactly where my body confidence and positivity went today.

And yes I know I'm doing myself no favours.

TBQF, you have a nice figure.

[Neutraligon]

Meanwhile I'm trying to figure out exactly where my body confidence and positivity went today.

And yes I know I'm doing myself no favours.

...I want to have your butt.

[Serrus]

Meanwhile I'm trying to figure out exactly where my body confidence and positivity went today.

And yes I know I'm doing myself no favours.

...I want to have your butt.

If I had room I would sig that.

[Khasinkonia]

Meanwhile I'm trying to figure out exactly where my body confidence and positivity went today.

And yes I know I'm doing myself no favours.

Aye, jumpsuits treat nobody well, but I think you managed to pull it off pretty well.

[Cekoviu]

Then you ought to support and accept their transition since it's the best treatment as others have noted.

Accepting them as outside the gender binary has been proven to change nothing about suicide rates and there are multiple examples of counseling solving Gender Dysphoria.

If you think every trans person is nonbinary, you have zero credentials to be speaking here. It shows that you have no knowledge of what you're talking about.

[Yagon]

Then you ought to support and accept their transition since it's the best treatment as others have noted.

Accepting them as outside the gender binary has been proven to change nothing about suicide rates and there are multiple examples of counseling solving Gender Dysphoria.

You sound like Admiral General Alladeen in Cohen's "The Dictator" when his friend explains in fact that some members of Menudo named him specifically in their suicide notes. "That's a rumor, you're being silly".

Many of the dead ones left posted indication that rejection by their families was a principal factor in their deaths.

I do not have the wisdom or life experience to judge the dead, but the pain and rejection and loss and sorrow and isolation of your own family considering you somehow abhorrent or "of the devil" makes it easier to hate yourself.

[Khasinkonia]

Accepting them as outside the gender binary has been proven to change nothing about suicide rates and there are multiple examples of counseling solving Gender Dysphoria.

You sound like Admiral General Alladeen in Cohen's "The Dictator" when his friend explains in fact that some members of Menudo named him specifically in their suicide notes. "That's a rumor, you're being silly".

Many of the dead ones left posted indication that rejection by their families was a principal factor in their deaths.

I do not have the wisdom or life experience to judge the dead, but the pain and rejection and loss and sorrow and isolation of your own family considering you somehow abhorrent or "of the devil" makes it easier to hate yourself.

^^^^
Fun fact for those dense enough to have not gleaned such information by now:
Social rejection and verbal abuse generally don’t do good things for the recipients’ mental health.

[Auzkhia]

Accepting them as outside the gender binary has been proven to change nothing about suicide rates and there are multiple examples of counseling solving Gender Dysphoria.

If you think every trans person is nonbinary, you have zero credentials to be speaking here. It shows that you have no knowledge of what you're talking about.

A lot of people treat transgender like a third gender, it's weird, and it's not mutually exclusive with male or female.