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What should the first subtitle of our next thread be?

Trans Men Are Not Women
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24%
Anti-Cistamines
10
10%
Please Don't Deadnaming Eve
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3%
Is This Destroying My Free Speech
8
8%
We Know More About This Than You
11
11%
HRT And Crumpets
26
27%
Pro-Nouns & Anti-Verbs
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16%
 
Total votes : 97

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:48 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:You don't know me and I can tell you I don't follow his commandments, but again I should stop jacking the thread.

Ah, but I'm transgender. So you have the better chances of not being in hell.

See, back on topic. It's magic.

It's denounced, it's definitely not compatible with Christianity, but neither is any other sin.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:49 pm

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Geneviev wrote:Yes, but being trans is unrepentant sin.

Mama are you happy yet?

I think all of these sins in Leviticus can't be repented given the frequency of fabric blends these days.

That's ceremonial law. Gender is moral law.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:50 pm

Geneviev wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:You don't know me and I can tell you I don't follow his commandments, but again I should stop jacking the thread.

Ah, but I'm transgender. So you have the better chances of not being in hell.

See, back on topic. It's magic.


You should see a gender therapist before your parents dunk you into a conversion camp. You have what we call back home ''arroz con culo'' (a clusterfuck), in essence, you are so confused and self-hating, you need help. Really.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:52 pm

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The Serbian Empire wrote:I think all of these sins in Leviticus can't be repented given the frequency of fabric blends these days.

That's ceremonial law. Gender is moral law.

And morality is frankly, relative. Otherwise being a soldier would be viewed as a life of eternal sin. Most Christians don't see the military in a negative life.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:57 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Geneviev wrote:That's ceremonial law. Gender is moral law.

And morality is frankly, relative. Otherwise being a soldier would be viewed as a life of eternal sin. Most Christians don't see the military in a negative life.

That's because rulers have the authority to kill on God's behalf in Christianity, and soldiers receive their authority to kill from rulers.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:58 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Ah, but I'm transgender. So you have the better chances of not being in hell.

See, back on topic. It's magic.


You should see a gender therapist before your parents dunk you into a conversion camp. You have what we call back home ''arroz con culo'' (a clusterfuck), in essence, you are so confused and self-hating, you need help. Really.

Not when I just reached an agreement with my parents. It doesn't have to be any more complicated.

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Geneviev wrote:That's ceremonial law. Gender is moral law.

And morality is frankly, relative. Otherwise being a soldier would be viewed as a life of eternal sin. Most Christians don't see the military in a negative life.

Because military stuff was never a sin. Morality was never relative.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:00 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You should see a gender therapist before your parents dunk you into a conversion camp. You have what we call back home ''arroz con culo'' (a clusterfuck), in essence, you are so confused and self-hating, you need help. Really.

Not when I just reached an agreement with my parents. It doesn't have to be any more complicated.


I hope, for your psychological and psychiatric integrity, that this doesn't come back to bite you and your parents in the ass. Nothing positive ever comes from denying your identity but, best of luck in this endeavor. You (especially) and and your family will need it.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:03 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You should see a gender therapist before your parents dunk you into a conversion camp. You have what we call back home ''arroz con culo'' (a clusterfuck), in essence, you are so confused and self-hating, you need help. Really.

Not when I just reached an agreement with my parents. It doesn't have to be any more complicated.

The Serbian Empire wrote:And morality is frankly, relative. Otherwise being a soldier would be viewed as a life of eternal sin. Most Christians don't see the military in a negative life.

Because military stuff was never a sin. Morality was never relative.

This a very difficult ordeal for you. Pray to Christ as much as you can. I'm very sorry. Remember that no matter what happens, Christ loves you.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:06 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Not when I just reached an agreement with my parents. It doesn't have to be any more complicated.


Because military stuff was never a sin. Morality was never relative.

This a very difficult ordeal for you. Pray to Christ as much as you can. I'm very sorry. Remember that no matter what happens, Christ loves you.

Christ loves me. :rofl:

And I spent most of today praying. So... if that's how this stuff goes away it should work.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Not when I just reached an agreement with my parents. It doesn't have to be any more complicated.


I hope, for your psychological and psychiatric integrity, that this doesn't come back to bite you and your parents in the ass. Nothing positive ever comes from denying your identity but, best of luck in this endeavor. You (especially) and and your family will need it.

It can't be too bad.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:08 pm

Geneviev wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:This a very difficult ordeal for you. Pray to Christ as much as you can. I'm very sorry. Remember that no matter what happens, Christ loves you.

Christ loves me. :rofl:

And I spent most of today praying. So... if that's how this stuff goes away it should work.

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I hope, for your psychological and psychiatric integrity, that this doesn't come back to bite you and your parents in the ass. Nothing positive ever comes from denying your identity but, best of luck in this endeavor. You (especially) and and your family will need it.

It can't be too bad.


Oh but it can be quite bad. Speak to transgender people who have tried to deny who they are for years and years and see what they say about this. Eventually, you will do what you think it's best, but that ''best'' isn't necessarily such. It's your life, in the end. *shrug*
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:14 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Christ loves me. :rofl:

And I spent most of today praying. So... if that's how this stuff goes away it should work.


It can't be too bad.


Oh but it can be quite bad. Speak to transgender people who have tried to deny who they are for years and years and see what they say about this. Eventually, you will do what you think it's best, but that ''best'' isn't necessarily such. It's your life, in the end. *shrug*

Family is best. So it's the right thing to do. I think.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:16 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Oh but it can be quite bad. Speak to transgender people who have tried to deny who they are for years and years and see what they say about this. Eventually, you will do what you think it's best, but that ''best'' isn't necessarily such. It's your life, in the end. *shrug*

Family is best. So it's the right thing to do. I think.


You think, or you know? Because if you're not sure, if you're doing this only to please others, that's no reason to deny your identity... and as great as family is, it doesn't warrant years of psychological trauma for you. That being said, you do you. And good luck.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:22 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Oh but it can be quite bad. Speak to transgender people who have tried to deny who they are for years and years and see what they say about this. Eventually, you will do what you think it's best, but that ''best'' isn't necessarily such. It's your life, in the end. *shrug*

Family is best. So it's the right thing to do. I think.

:( I'm sorry, Geneviev. I can't imagine how hard this must be on you.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:58 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Family is best. So it's the right thing to do. I think.


You think, or you know? Because if you're not sure, if you're doing this only to please others, that's no reason to deny your identity... and as great as family is, it doesn't warrant years of psychological trauma for you. That being said, you do you. And good luck.

It's a complicated matter. But thanks I guess?
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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:45 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You think, or you know? Because if you're not sure, if you're doing this only to please others, that's no reason to deny your identity... and as great as family is, it doesn't warrant years of psychological trauma for you. That being said, you do you. And good luck.

It's a complicated matter. But thanks I guess?


May I add that I tried a form of “reparative therapy”. All it did was make me feel horrible about myself, and made me think of killing myself...
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Postby Jelmatt » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:55 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I am considering getting back on the horse of helping at the transgender help line. Not as a line operator as I'm not transgender, but as support for the staff. I think I am fit to do that again.


Beware empathy fatigue.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Ah, but I'm transgender. So you have the better chances of not being in hell.

See, back on topic. It's magic.


You should see a gender therapist before your parents dunk you into a conversion camp. You have what we call back home ''arroz con culo'' (a clusterfuck), in essence, you are so confused and self-hating, you need help. Really.


...rice with ass? How have I never heard this idiom before in any Spanish class?

Are they sending you to a camp or a "conversion therapist?"
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:00 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You should see a gender therapist before your parents dunk you into a conversion camp. You have what we call back home ''arroz con culo'' (a clusterfuck), in essence, you are so confused and self-hating, you need help. Really.


...rice with ass? How have I never heard this idiom before in any Spanish class?

Are they sending you to a camp or a "conversion therapist?"

Because Spanish class is supposed to be boring and teach you nothing. French is much more fun with the right teacher.

Neither. An agreement has been reached.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:40 pm

Jelmatt wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I am considering getting back on the horse of helping at the transgender help line. Not as a line operator as I'm not transgender, but as support for the staff. I think I am fit to do that again.


Beware empathy fatigue.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You should see a gender therapist before your parents dunk you into a conversion camp. You have what we call back home ''arroz con culo'' (a clusterfuck), in essence, you are so confused and self-hating, you need help. Really.


...rice with ass? How have I never heard this idiom before in any Spanish class?

Are they sending you to a camp or a "conversion therapist?"


Literally, yes. It translate as rice with ass. But the meaning is "a clusterfuck".
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Postby Jelmatt » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:41 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Jelmatt wrote:

...rice with ass? How have I never heard this idiom before in any Spanish class?

Are they sending you to a camp or a "conversion therapist?"

Because Spanish class is supposed to be boring and teach you nothing. French is much more fun with the right teacher.

Neither. An agreement has been reached.


Oh. I see. Voluntary repression it is, then?

...there were worse potential outcomes.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:47 pm

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Geneviev wrote:It's a complicated matter. But thanks I guess?


May I add that I tried a form of “reparative therapy”. All it did was make me feel horrible about myself, and made me think of killing myself...

Christian psychology is about as valid as Christian science.
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Postby Auzkhia » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:48 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Jelmatt wrote:

...rice with ass? How have I never heard this idiom before in any Spanish class?

Are they sending you to a camp or a "conversion therapist?"

Because Spanish class is supposed to be boring and teach you nothing. French is much more fun with the right teacher.

Neither. An agreement has been reached.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:49 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
May I add that I tried a form of “reparative therapy”. All it did was make me feel horrible about myself, and made me think of killing myself...

Christian psychology is about as valid as Christian science.


Christian Science. Ugh.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:20 am

Geneviev wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:You don't know me and I can tell you I don't follow his commandments, but again I should stop jacking the thread.

Ah, but I'm transgender. So you have the better chances of not being in hell.

See, back on topic. It's magic.


I'm transgender, and I'm not going to hell. There's hope for you.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:22 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I am considering getting back on the horse of helping at the transgender help line. Not as a line operator as I'm not transgender, but as support for the staff. I think I am fit to do that again.


I know you'll do great. :hug:

Geneviev wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:If one lived by Leviticus, anyone who wore a cloth fabric blend would be going to hell. So you wouldn't even need to be transgender to get damnation according to the same text that says being trans is supposedly a sin.

Yes, but being trans is unrepentant sin.

Mama are you happy yet?


No, it isn't, and whoever told you otherwise committed the sin of lying.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:24 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Ah, but I'm transgender. So you have the better chances of not being in hell.

See, back on topic. It's magic.

1. It's denounced, 2. it's definitely not compatible with Christianity, 3. but neither is any other sin.


1. Not by anyone who matters.

2. Bullshit.

3. Its not a sin. Sorry.
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