Also for a woman, I guess.
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by The Blaatschapen » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:15 pm
by Grenartia » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:16 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Grenartia wrote:
You are entitled to your wrong opinion. I, for one, refuse to put myself in danger simply to appease your and others' judgment, for the sake of somebody else's minor issue of personal comfort. Talk to me when they're actually in danger.
It's not a minor issue of personal comfort, it's tricking someone into doing something they wouldn't otherwise do, and which, in some communities can have serious consequences for the person tricked into breaking their code.
by United Muscovite Nations » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:16 pm
by Neutraligon » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:16 pm
by Aellex » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:16 pm
Khalisako wrote:And yet you do it again.
Fucking person with vagina is not of gay for man.
by Vassenor » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:17 pm
by Grenartia » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:17 pm
by United Muscovite Nations » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:17 pm
Grenartia wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:It's not a minor issue of personal comfort, it's tricking someone into doing something they wouldn't otherwise do, and which, in some communities can have serious consequences for the person tricked into breaking their code.
Dear lord, you're acting like its on par with making somebody an unwitting accomplice to murder.
by Liriena » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:17 pm
Aellex wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Since being gay means to feel actual sexual attraction I have no doubt it is possible to rape someone of the same sex without being gay. As long as there is no sexual attraction at all there is no homosexuality.
It's not possible as a man to rape someone without feeling any speck of sexual attraction. Self-repressed gays or bi at least makes more sense, sorry.
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by Khalisako » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:18 pm
Aellex wrote:Khalisako wrote:And yet you do it again.
Or so you claiming by presenting a quote of me not saying anything of the kind.Fucking person with vagina is not of gay for man.
>implying it actually is a vagina
Yeah, no. Once more, it's alright if people are into that but as an heterosexual man, I believe that traps are gays and nothing will makes me think otherwise.
Not judging people who're into it, just stating my honest opinion.
Hurdergaryp wrote:Oh, Khalisako... my dear, precious little Khalisako...
sometimes I just want to grab you by the throat and choke you for a while,
but that would not be proper behaviour. It just wouldn't do.
by Neutraligon » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:18 pm
Aellex wrote:Khalisako wrote:And yet you do it again.
Or so you claiming by presenting a quote of me not saying anything of the kind.Fucking person with vagina is not of gay for man.
>implying it actually is a vagina
Yeah, no. Once more, it's alright if people are into that but as an heterosexual man, I believe that traps are gays and nothing will makes me think otherwise.
Not judging people who're into it, just stating my honest opinion.
by Grenartia » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:19 pm
by Luminesa » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:19 pm
by Aellex » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:20 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Not their fault people make assumptions that because one look a certain way one is a certain sex. So no they did not lie. And once again revealing they are trans places them in direct physical danger. Even if it where a deception a deception to protect oneself is not a morally bad thing.
by Grenartia » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:20 pm
Khalisako wrote:Aellex wrote:Or so you claiming by presenting a quote of me not saying anything of the kind.
>implying it actually is a vagina
Yeah, no. Once more, it's alright if people are into that but as an heterosexual man, I believe that traps are gays and nothing will makes me think otherwise.
Not judging people who're into it, just stating my honest opinion.
Trap is gay person dress as woman, like the bacha bazi boy, of course that gay.
We talk about transsexual and such here, not the trap gays.
by Liriena » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:20 pm
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by Neutraligon » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:20 pm
Luminesa wrote:Liriena wrote:Indeed. Demanding that trans people always disclose that they are trans to every potential partner, even casual ones, is not reasonable given how openly trans people face a lot of danger.
I mean...my understanding would be that I would want to know who I am having sex with...It doesn't have to lead to someone getting hurt and dying. A.) The people who beat and kill trans people for being trans, after having sex with them, are crazy, and B). openness, communication, and mutual respect should be part of any relationship, otherwise it's not a good relationship.
by United Muscovite Nations » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:20 pm
by Aellex » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:21 pm
Grenartia wrote:Man, that's some grade A bullshit you're trying to sell. How much is it per pound?
by Aellex » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:22 pm
Khalisako wrote:Trap is gay person dress as woman, like the bacha bazi boy, of course that gay.
We talk about transsexual and such here, not the trap gays.
by United Muscovite Nations » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:23 pm
by Neutraligon » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:24 pm
Funny since I view myself as having the high ground while you are getting disgustingly lower and lower. Since not once did they lie and not once did they trick people I have no issue with what they did. They presented themselves exactly as they are. With the personality they have and the looks they have. When they had sex they did so with the organs they had. Once again no deception. Tell me an XY person who is female because of hormone stuff, do they have to say they are male? Are they tricking someone by having sex with a person without telling them they have that condition? I see no tricking going on at allAellex wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Not their fault people make assumptions that because one look a certain way one is a certain sex. So no they did not lie. And once again revealing they are trans places them in direct physical danger. Even if it where a deception a deception to protect oneself is not a morally bad thing.
Wow, getting even more disgustingly lower now, are we? Good to see your argument is now officially morally bankrupt.
And yep, they very much lied and you showcased exactly how they're tricking people by doing so.
Yeah, once more, if you think you're putting yourself at risk by revealing to someone you're trans before you have sex with them; then what do you expect to happen by doing so after you had?
by Neutraligon » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:25 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Grenartia wrote:
Why is it ok to expect somebody to endanger themselves so somebody else doesn't have a petty existential crisis over events outside their control?
Because they would merely be telling the truth. If it is okay to trick people into violating their moral code, then that violates the principles of liberalism that give people autonomy over their actions.
by Grenartia » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:25 pm
Luminesa wrote:Liriena wrote:Indeed. Demanding that trans people always disclose that they are trans to every potential partner, even casual ones, is not reasonable given how openly trans people face a lot of danger.
1. I mean...my understanding would be that I would want to know who I am having sex with... 2. It doesn't have to lead to someone getting hurt and dying. A.) The people who beat and kill trans people for being trans, after having sex with them, are crazy, and B). openness, communication, and mutual respect should be part of any relationship, otherwise it's not a good relationship.
by Aellex » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:26 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Yo believing it so does not make it so. Oh and the nothing can make me think otherwise goes to show that you are unwilling to actually listen to evidence. As to just stating my opinion....I could state that I believe that niggers are inferior to all other races, and then say not judging people who have sex with niggers I just think they are having sex with animals. Would not change the fact I am judging.
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