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What should the first subtitle of our next thread be?

Trans Men Are Not Women
23
24%
Anti-Cistamines
10
10%
Please Don't Deadnaming Eve
3
3%
Is This Destroying My Free Speech
8
8%
We Know More About This Than You
11
11%
HRT And Crumpets
26
27%
Pro-Nouns & Anti-Verbs
16
16%
 
Total votes : 97

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:57 am

I seem to have some sort of communication anxiety in general. Since I have the same sort of problem with using phones with people I don't know that I do with using IMs and stuff.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:14 am

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Noraika wrote:I know right?! I don't know where to start. They still don't seem to be willing to listen to anyone other than 'their experts', which all reinforce their beliefs about lgbt+ people, and they still don't seem like they'll come around anytime soon. That's not my goal though. My goal is to get to a place where we can have a relationship. Where they don't have to accept or agree with my gender identity, but they are not threatening my education, or ability to come home to them for it. :(


Thank you! Its really encouraging to hear that. I know I'm going to cry a lot during this conversation, whenever it happens (they said they'll provide times they're available soon), and I just hope that they realize that they haven't lost their child. Their child was just scared to tell them what was going on, and that there are two sides to this coin.

I hope its a foundation, on which we can both understand that we've both been very hurt, and work towards resolution and respectful understanding.

I mean, I guess I don't really understand why you would want to come home to them if it turns out that they can't accept you after all. I can understand the feelings behind it -- I'm very afraid of losing my relationship with certain of my grandparents, for instance. But even though I love them very much, I would cut them off without hesitation if they were going to be toxic. And I would encourage anyone else to do the same.

Then again, I have perhaps too much experience with cutting off family members: I have absolutely no relationship with the vast majority of my bio-paternal family, and my mother and I haven't had contact with her sister for years. So maybe I'm just used to it by now.

In any case, I can respect your feelings and wishes in that regard, and I do hope it turns out well.


As someone with toxic grandparents, I'm ready to cut them off as soon as I can get a place to live. Then again, that's regardless of if they accept me or not.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:27 am

Had my first laser appointment today. Impressions:
1) Ouch.
2) Dat burning hair smell tho.
3) Ouch.

I spent pretty much the entire time repeating in my head, "Short-term pain, long-term gain!" and "No pain no gain!", as well as pinching myself to distract from the pain of the laser. It wasn't awful, but it's sure not something I would choose to undergo if I didn't have to. Tbh, I think what made it seem bad was just that it had to be repeated in different spots across my face for about 20 minutes with essentially no respite; otherwise, it's just a brief, sharp pain.

Anyway, I'm super happy I'm having that done! Especially since I can afford it now, and probably won't really be able to next year when I won't be working as much and I'll be in school (so I won't be bringing in as much, and I'll be spending a decent amount of what I do make on tuition, textbooks, etc).
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:34 am

Right, if the weather holds I'm going to make another try at public presentation today. Hopefully my sweatshirt's dried out by then because it went into the laundry after I came back and was still a little bit damp earlier.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:32 am

Well, I only managed to go once around the block before it started raining, but I managed to make it outside without having a panic moment like last time.

I'm calling that a win.
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Postby Philjia » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:34 am

Vassenor wrote:Well, I only managed to go once around the block before it started raining, but I managed to make it outside without having a panic moment like last time.

I'm calling that a win.


Good! :)
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:58 am

Vassenor wrote:Well, I only managed to go once around the block before it started raining, but I managed to make it outside without having a panic moment like last time.

I'm calling that a win.

Hooray!
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:58 am

Vassenor wrote:Well, I only managed to go once around the block before it started raining, but I managed to make it outside without having a panic moment like last time.

I'm calling that a win.

Yay, success!
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Postby Noraika » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:03 pm

Vassenor wrote:Well, I only managed to go once around the block before it started raining, but I managed to make it outside without having a panic moment like last time.

I'm calling that a win.

Yes! Good job! That's an awesome start! :lol:

In addition, my parents want to talk tomorrow. My main fear is that they won't listen to me, or acknowledge that the situation here is really two-sided.
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Postby Yoshida (Ancient) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:11 pm

Are there any resources for finding a HRT clinic in one's area?
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Postby Noraika » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:10 pm

Yoshida wrote:Are there any resources for finding a HRT clinic in one's area?

Some Planned Parenthoods can provide the service usually, in addition, call your primary health provider or GP to see if they can refer you to any. ;)
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:20 pm

Yoshida wrote:Are there any resources for finding a HRT clinic in one's area?

There are resources for informed consent clinics at a certain site. Noraika mentioned about Planned Parenthood also providing such services in some areas.
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Postby Noraika » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:25 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Yoshida wrote:Are there any resources for finding a HRT clinic in one's area?

There are resources for informed consent clinics at a certain site. Noraika mentioned about Planned Parenthood also providing such services in some areas.

Its up to the individual clinic to decide if they cover the service or not.
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Postby Yoshida (Ancient) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:39 pm

Noraika wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:There are resources for informed consent clinics at a certain site. Noraika mentioned about Planned Parenthood also providing such services in some areas.

Its up to the individual clinic to decide if they cover the service or not.


I checked their website for clinics in my area. Fortunately it seems there is one that provides LGBT services (referrals).
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Postby Noraika » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:43 pm

Yoshida wrote:
Noraika wrote:Its up to the individual clinic to decide if they cover the service or not.


I checked their website for clinics in my area. Fortunately it seems there is one that provides LGBT services (referrals).

YAY! :clap: :hug:
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Postby Yoshida (Ancient) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:59 pm

Noraika wrote:
Yoshida wrote:
I checked their website for clinics in my area. Fortunately it seems there is one that provides LGBT services (referrals).

YAY! :clap: :hug:


All I have to do now is locate a pharmacy and make sure I have the funds to pay for transitioning.

Another, more embarrassing question, where do I go to store sperm? It's not the most important thing, but if I meet another woman in the future and have a romantic relationship, I'd prefer to use my own genetic material to create a child rather than that of somebody else.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:08 pm

Noraika wrote:
Yoshida wrote:
I checked their website for clinics in my area. Fortunately it seems there is one that provides LGBT services (referrals).

YAY! :clap: :hug:
Noraika wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:There are resources for informed consent clinics at a certain site. Noraika mentioned about Planned Parenthood also providing such services in some areas.

Its up to the individual clinic to decide if they cover the service or not.

Yoshida wrote:
Noraika wrote:Its up to the individual clinic to decide if they cover the service or not.


I checked their website for clinics in my area. Fortunately it seems there is one that provides LGBT services t(referrals).

Looks like the same situation for me. I can guide my way through my transition starting from a mere 30-45 minute drive.
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Postby Noraika » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:15 pm

Yoshida wrote:
Noraika wrote:YAY! :clap: :hug:


All I have to do now is locate a pharmacy and make sure I have the funds to pay for transitioning.

Another, more embarrassing question, where do I go to store sperm? It's not the most important thing, but if I meet another woman in the future and have a romantic relationship, I'd prefer to use my own genetic material to create a child rather than that of somebody else.

I can't help you there. I don't have enough money for that. Anyways, just be sure to clear it with your insurance company, and you should be good! :clap: :lol: :hug:
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:03 am

Yoshida wrote:
Noraika wrote:YAY! :clap: :hug:


All I have to do now is locate a pharmacy and make sure I have the funds to pay for transitioning.

Another, more embarrassing question, where do I go to store sperm? It's not the most important thing, but if I meet another woman in the future and have a romantic relationship, I'd prefer to use my own genetic material to create a child rather than that of somebody else.

Nah, don't feel embarrassed. I imagine that this is one of the few threads on NSG where discussing sperm and genitals and all that (usually in a nonsexual context) is a pretty normal occurrence.

Anyway, when I was looking into it I just searched "sperm banking [city I live in]" on Google, and it came up.
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Postby Transgendora » Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:19 am

Hello there I have to know how would you come out to your parents mainly your mom about wanting to become a woman. I tried it once before over email when she was in Florida for a graduation and I was in my home state of Texas and she didn't take it well and so I back fracked and now I have this fascination w/mtf stories where men are transformed into women by different methods and such. I also kind of idolize a few real transgender women such as Kim Petras, Miriam, & Kate Craig Wood.

So can anyone help me out
Oh couple more things
I'm still a guy but I still like girls but I'm afraid if I start putting pictures of guys I do like on my phone or iPad my mom will ask me qeustions so what should I do here.

Second I have been going through names and the ones I like were Ashley, Courtney, and Rachel
and I've chosen my female name to be Rachel I like it for some reason better then the others.

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Postby Emad » Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:39 am

All you transgender people make me wanna puke.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:47 am

Emad wrote:All you transgender people make me wanna puke.


Considering your history with another nation, and how blatant this little snit fit was, let's go for a *** Three-Day Ban ***

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Postby Grenartia » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:32 am

Nature-Spirits wrote:Had my first laser appointment today. Impressions:
1) Ouch.
2) Dat burning hair smell tho.
3) Ouch.

I spent pretty much the entire time repeating in my head, "Short-term pain, long-term gain!" and "No pain no gain!", as well as pinching myself to distract from the pain of the laser. It wasn't awful, but it's sure not something I would choose to undergo if I didn't have to. Tbh, I think what made it seem bad was just that it had to be repeated in different spots across my face for about 20 minutes with essentially no respite; otherwise, it's just a brief, sharp pain.

Anyway, I'm super happy I'm having that done! Especially since I can afford it now, and probably won't really be able to next year when I won't be working as much and I'll be in school (so I won't be bringing in as much, and I'll be spending a decent amount of what I do make on tuition, textbooks, etc).


On a scale of 1-10, how is it?

Transgendora wrote:Hello there I have to know how would you come out to your parents mainly your mom about wanting to become a woman. I tried it once before over email when she was in Florida for a graduation and I was in my home state of Texas and she didn't take it well and so I back fracked and now I have this fascination w/mtf stories where men are transformed into women by different methods and such. I also kind of idolize a few real transgender women such as Kim Petras, Miriam, & Kate Craig Wood.

So can anyone help me out
Oh couple more things
I'm still a guy but I still like girls but I'm afraid if I start putting pictures of guys I do like on my phone or iPad my mom will ask me qeustions so what should I do here.

Second I have been going through names and the ones I like were Ashley, Courtney, and Rachel
and I've chosen my female name to be Rachel I like it for some reason better then the others.


The answer to your main question depends precisely on how financially independent you are.

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Emad wrote:All you transgender people make me wanna puke.


Considering your history with another nation, and how blatant this little snit fit was, let's go for a *** Three-Day Ban ***


Thanks for dealing with that, Yum. *leaves cookies*

In other news, I feel really petty for this, but I recently got a pre-christmas present (from a manager I work for) that has my dead-initials on it (and there's no way she knows my true name/initials). I mean, aside from that, its nice (just a christmas tree ornament), but still. Wat do?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:35 am

Actually I'm not sure I can call it a win when all I did was walk around on a cold December morning with no-one else around.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:37 am

Vassenor wrote:Actually I'm not sure I can call it a win when all I did was walk around on a cold December morning with no-one else around.


Small steps.
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