Left-Wing Discussion Thread II: Behind 700,000 Bunkers

[The New Sea Territory]

Well, to clarify, I was talking about the last line, "Democratic socialists still believe in a market economy."
Thats just not what democratic socialism is. Socialists reject the market and end private property. Thats what socialism is

No, that's what communism is.

If private property exists, its not socialism. Period, non-negotiable.

Communism and socialism are not synonyms.

Communism has more aspects than social ownership of the means of production. These include common ownership of the MoP, classlessness, statelessness, moneylessness, worker self-management, etc.

For socialism, there is only one (hence why the word is so vague). Social onwership of the means of production is what separates socialism from European models of late capitalist welfare states.

[Jochizyd Republic]

What do you guys think of Che Guevara t-shirts being sold in clothing stores?

[Yoshida (Ancient)]

What do you guys think of Che Guevara t-shirts being sold in clothing stores?

I find it ironic that he's essentially become a consumerist symbol.

[The New Sea Territory]

What do you guys think of Che Guevara t-shirts being sold in clothing stores?

Recuperation at its finest.

[Uiiop]

What do you guys think of Che Guevara t-shirts being sold in clothing stores?

Hilariously sad but not necessarily stupid to get and wear.

[Bakery Hill]

What do you guys think of Che Guevara t-shirts being sold in clothing stores?

The commercialisation of dissent.

[Pandeeria]

What do you guys think of Che Guevara t-shirts being sold in clothing stores?

I honestly don't understand why the far-leftist movement has such admiration for certain figures like Che Guevara, Castro, Stalin, and Mao.

[Yoshida (Ancient)]

What do you guys think of Che Guevara t-shirts being sold in clothing stores?

I honestly don't understand why the far-leftist movement has such admiration for certain figures like Che Guevara, Castro, Stalin, and Mao.

Mass murderers are trendy it seems.

[Victores]

What do you guys think of Che Guevara t-shirts being sold in clothing stores?

I honestly don't understand why the far-leftist movement has such admiration for certain figures like Che Guevara, Castro, Stalin, and Mao.

Because for most of history, they have been a fringe group, the only "Great" leaders are also mass murderers. I mean, not many people know Engel and Luxembourg.

[Pandeeria]

I honestly don't understand why the far-leftist movement has such admiration for certain figures like Che Guevara, Castro, Stalin, and Mao.

Because for most of history, they have been a fringe group, the only "Great" leaders are also mass murderers. I mean, not many people know Engel and Luxembourg.

Yeah, it's a shame more of the Left doesn't talk about people like Engels or Luxembourg or Debs.

[Yoshida (Ancient)]

Because for most of history, they have been a fringe group, the only "Great" leaders are also mass murderers. I mean, not many people know Engel and Luxembourg.

Yeah, it's a shame more of the Left doesn't talk about people like Engels or Luxembourg or Debs.

Eh, more of a Sorel fan myself.

[MERIZoC]

What do you guys think of Che Guevara t-shirts being sold in clothing stores?

I honestly don't understand why the far-leftist movement has such admiration for certain figures like Che Guevara, Castro, Stalin, and Mao.

Che is fucking sexy thats why

[Pandeeria]

Yeah, it's a shame more of the Left doesn't talk about people like Engels or Luxembourg or Debs.

Eh, more of a Sorel fan myself.

>Mentions Sorel
I want to see that sexy mother fucker
>Googles "Sorel"
>Top results are for some fucking consumer boot company
>Tfw liberal consumerism makes me want to kill myself
>Tfw when there is no escape, not even on the internet

[Yoshida (Ancient)]

Eh, more of a Sorel fan myself.

>Mentions Sorel
I want to see that sexy mother fucker
>Googles "Sorel"
>Top results are for some fucking consumer boot company
>Tfw liberal consumerism makes me want to kill myself
>Tfw when there is no escape, not even on the internet

> Sorel
> sexy

Say what?

[Uiiop]

>Mentions Sorel
I want to see that sexy mother fucker
>Googles "Sorel"
>Top results are for some fucking consumer boot company
>Tfw liberal consumerism makes me want to kill myself
>Tfw when there is no escape, not even on the internet

> Sorel
> sexy

Say what?

Well his beard is pretty dope tbf.

[Pandeeria]

>Mentions Sorel
I want to see that sexy mother fucker
>Googles "Sorel"
>Top results are for some fucking consumer boot company
>Tfw liberal consumerism makes me want to kill myself
>Tfw when there is no escape, not even on the internet

> Sorel
> sexy

Say what?

If you're a syndicalist, you're instantly sexy.

[Yoshida (Ancient)]

> Sorel
> sexy

Say what?

If you're a syndicalist, you're instantly sexy.

As a syndicalist, I'm flattered.

[Conscentia]

> Sorel
> sexy
Say what?

If you're a syndicalist, you're instantly sexy.

A lot of early fascists were syndicalists though.

[Yoshida (Ancient)]

If you're a syndicalist, you're instantly sexy.

A lot of early fascists were syndicalists though.

The early Fascists favored radical socioeconomic policies such as redistribution of wealth, nationalization of Church property, and universal suffrage (in an age where women didn't have the vote).

[Pandeeria]

If you're a syndicalist, you're instantly sexy.

A lot of early fascists were syndicalists though.

Well, I got to give it to them, Mussolini was actually a pretty nice looking guy (not even being sarcastic).

[Webus]

Neosocialist masterrace reporting in

[Conscentia]

Neosocialist masterrace reporting in

"Neosocialist"?

[Pandeeria]

Neosocialist masterrace reporting in

What's Neosocialism?

[Pandeeria]

Oh shit, it appears as if Neosocialism was one of the first steps in the evolution of 20th century Fascism (which as we well know descended from Socialist thinkers in the earlier part of the 20th century). It overall seems like a pretty bad economic system.

[The Grene Knyght]

Neosocialist masterrace reporting in

I'm very cautious, but somewhat curious...