Left-Wing Discussion Thread II: Behind 700,000 Bunkers

[Northern Davincia]

You seem to enjoy this.

I enjoy being able to edit the players with characters from TV shows.

"Daryl hunts for other tributes."
"Jon Snow receives explosives from an unknown sponsor."

You're an absolute genius.

[Tekeristan]

You guys are dorks.

[War Gears]

Fellas..........................are academics bourgeoisie?

Yes. That doesn't mean they can't betray their class though. It's not too late for anyone able to work.

> not exploiting the working class for your own enjoyment.

Prole pls.

[Bakery Hill]

Fellas..........................are academics bourgeoisie?

In all seriousness? Sometimes. At the low end of the scale, they're basically white collar workers like any other, at the high end of the scale they can very much be bourgeois (in that they privately own parts of the means of production) or earn enough money that they're in a sort of class contradictory system.

[Bakery Hill]

Consider it a deal comrade.


It's a sad state isn't it? There are some shining lights out there though. Have you heard of Angela Nagle? I'd highly recommend her.

I can't find much about her, except for a reference on Jacobin. Who is she?

She wrote an excellent book called Kill All Normies, that dissects the current culture war in a Marxist fashion. Look up her interviews on Youtube, I think that'd be a good start.

[War Gears]

I can't find much about her, except for a reference on Jacobin. Who is she?

She wrote an excellent book called Kill All Normies, that dissects the current culture war in a Marxist fashion. Look up her interviews on Youtube, I think that'd be a good start.

As older conservatives fought out the 2016 election in the pages of the National Review and the Weekly Standard, a younger, more tech-savvy generation of neoreactionaries, white nationalists, ultra-conservatives, and traditionalists took to some of the darkest corners of the web to stake out their role in American political life. To do so, they embraced a transgressive and performative approach—one that, Nagle writes, is “more Fight Club than family values, more in line with Marquis de Sade than Edmund Burke”—inspired not by the work of conservative ideologues but by the tactics of left-wing vanguards. Soon, those “heeding the ideas of the left most closely . . . and applying them most strategically [were] the right.” Rightist troll culture embraced the notion outlined by critical theorists such as Michel Foucault and the New Left thinkers like R.D. Laing that madness is a political and cultural rebellion, and in their hands this idea meant that a position of contrarianism and opposition to consensus values became an end unto itself. Indeed, Nagle explains, the “libertinism, individualism, bourgeois bohemianism, postmodernism, irony, and ultimately the nihilism that the left was once accused of by the right” has found fertile ground in segments of the new far-right.

This would all be inspiring were it not just used to post dumb messages on the internet.

[Bakery Hill]

She wrote an excellent book called Kill All Normies, that dissects the current culture war in a Marxist fashion. Look up her interviews on Youtube, I think that'd be a good start.

As older conservatives fought out the 2016 election in the pages of the National Review and the Weekly Standard, a younger, more tech-savvy generation of neoreactionaries, white nationalists, ultra-conservatives, and traditionalists took to some of the darkest corners of the web to stake out their role in American political life. To do so, they embraced a transgressive and performative approach—one that, Nagle writes, is “more Fight Club than family values, more in line with Marquis de Sade than Edmund Burke”—inspired not by the work of conservative ideologues but by the tactics of left-wing vanguards. Soon, those “heeding the ideas of the left most closely . . . and applying them most strategically [were] the right.” Rightist troll culture embraced the notion outlined by critical theorists such as Michel Foucault and the New Left thinkers like R.D. Laing that madness is a political and cultural rebellion, and in their hands this idea meant that a position of contrarianism and opposition to consensus values became an end unto itself. Indeed, Nagle explains, the “libertinism, individualism, bourgeois bohemianism, postmodernism, irony, and ultimately the nihilism that the left was once accused of by the right” has found fertile ground in segments of the new far-right.

This would all be inspiring were it not just used to post dumb messages on the internet.

Yes I agree in a sense. Everything that's absolutely worthless and damaging to the left (that is to say being a fucking narcissistic wanker in a fashion that only gets you admired on the internet or select social circles) is getting absorbed by this new alt right. This reorientation, if it continues might prove far more beneficial to us than them.

[MERIZoC]

ONLY as long as the Three Noble Principles (baking, shoewearing, membership debate) are acknowledged and given the utmost respect.

Consider it a deal comrade.

On a more serious note, I do find myself agreeing more and more with you on the proletarian morality thing. Speaking from experience, the state of the left on college campuses is in shambles - especially because literally no one outside of the school system wants anything to do with it, and for good reason. I do agree that the left needs a major overhaul if we're ever going to be taken seriously beyond like one tiny corner of the Internet.

It's a sad state isn't it? There are some shining lights out there though. Have you heard of Angela Nagle? I'd highly recommend her.

Angela Nagle sucks and KAN is a bad book.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Consider it a deal comrade.


It's a sad state isn't it? There are some shining lights out there though. Have you heard of Angela Nagle? I'd highly recommend her.

Angela Nagle sucks and KAN is a bad book.

t. Normie

[Bakery Hill]

Consider it a deal comrade.


It's a sad state isn't it? There are some shining lights out there though. Have you heard of Angela Nagle? I'd highly recommend her.

Angela Nagle sucks and KAN is a bad book.

Please, give us the anarcho-primitivist take on it.

[Conserative Morality]

Please, give us the anarcho-primitivist take on it.

Can't. The written word is against AnPrim principles.

[Bakery Hill]

Please, give us the anarcho-primitivist take on it.

Can't. The written word is against AnPrim principles.

Maybe that's how they get around being on the internet all the time.

[MERIZoC]

Angela Nagle sucks and KAN is a bad book.

Please, give us the anarcho-primitivist take on it.

I can give you a normal take, which is that Nagle's a closeted regressive (and a TERF) who's intent on blaming PC culture for the rise of nazis in America, and she doesn't even dislike the alt-right that much, hence her whitewash of Jordan Peterson.

[War Gears]

This would all be inspiring were it not just used to post dumb messages on the internet.

Yes I agree in a sense. Everything that's absolutely worthless and damaging to the left (that is to say being a fucking narcissistic wanker in a fashion that only gets you admired on the internet or select social circles) is getting absorbed by this new alt right. This reorientation, if it continues might prove far more beneficial to us than them.

Sometimes it results in you marching on top of the National Theater.

Or taking over a city and turning it into a depraved cocaine-filled orgy of Italian nationalism and debauchery.

[Genivaria]

Sometimes I question my left-ism because I don't understand half of the shit ya'll say.

[Bakery Hill]

Please, give us the anarcho-primitivist take on it.

I can give you a normal take, which is that Nagle's a closeted regressive (and a TERF) who's intent on blaming PC culture for the rise of nazis in America, and she doesn't even dislike the alt-right that much, hence her whitewash of Jordan Peterson.

Calling her some sort of cryptoterf and alt right sympathiser seems to be fairly lazy criticism I've heard a lot, and heard her address in a satisfying way. Strange though, I thought you would have been a fan given your Chapo love, very surprising take to hear from you.

[Bakery Hill]

Yes I agree in a sense. Everything that's absolutely worthless and damaging to the left (that is to say being a fucking narcissistic wanker in a fashion that only gets you admired on the internet or select social circles) is getting absorbed by this new alt right. This reorientation, if it continues might prove far more beneficial to us than them.

Or taking over a city and turning it into a depraved cocaine-filled orgy of Italian nationalism and debauchery.

> when you can't figure out which is the worst out of all those things

[Bakery Hill]

Sometimes I question my left-ism because I don't understand half of the shit ya'll say.

This is a real problem tbh. It can be a subculture with is own jargon. Suffice to say I use none of it when speaking to the un-initiated.

[Kubra]

Yes I agree in a sense. Everything that's absolutely worthless and damaging to the left (that is to say being a fucking narcissistic wanker in a fashion that only gets you admired on the internet or select social circles) is getting absorbed by this new alt right. This reorientation, if it continues might prove far more beneficial to us than them.

Sometimes it results in you marching on top of the National Theater.

Or taking over a city and turning it into a depraved cocaine-filled orgy of Italian nationalism and debauchery.

itialian nationalism would have been descriptive enough

[Bakery Hill]

Sometimes it results in you marching on top of the National Theater.

Or taking over a city and turning it into a depraved cocaine-filled orgy of Italian nationalism and debauchery.

itialian nationalism would have been descriptive enough

Yes this is a good point. After that it gets redundant.

[MERIZoC]

I can give you a normal take, which is that Nagle's a closeted regressive (and a TERF) who's intent on blaming PC culture for the rise of nazis in America, and she doesn't even dislike the alt-right that much, hence her whitewash of Jordan Peterson.

Calling her some sort of cryptoterf and alt right sympathiser seems to be fairly lazy criticism I've heard a lot, and heard her address in a satisfying way. Strange though, I thought you would have been a fan given your Chapo love, very surprising take to hear from you.

If she's so convincingly dispelled accusations of being a TERF against her, then maybe she shouldnt be boosting Germaine Greer, as recently as a few days ago.

Chapo giving her two episodes to build her brand was a mistake. >>

[Genivaria]

Sometimes I question my left-ism because I don't understand half of the shit ya'll say.

This is a real problem tbh. It can be a subculture with is own jargon. Suffice to say I use none of it when speaking to the un-initiated.

....I was a dirtie commie when I first stumbled on NS back in 2011.

[Bakery Hill]

This is a real problem tbh. It can be a subculture with is own jargon. Suffice to say I use none of it when speaking to the un-initiated.

....I was a dirtie commie when I first stumbled on NS back in 2011.

Psht don't take things so personally my man, that was not about you.

[Bakery Hill]

Calling her some sort of cryptoterf and alt right sympathiser seems to be fairly lazy criticism I've heard a lot, and heard her address in a satisfying way. Strange though, I thought you would have been a fan given your Chapo love, very surprising take to hear from you.

If she's so convincingly dispelled accusations of being a TERF against her, then maybe she shouldnt be boosting Germaine Greer, as recently as a few days ago.

Chapo giving her two episodes to build her brand was a mistake. >>

I'll look more into it. I figured you were hard anti-idpol for some reason.

[MERIZoC]

This is a real problem tbh. It can be a subculture with is own jargon. Suffice to say I use none of it when speaking to the un-initiated.

....I was a dirtie commie when I first stumbled on NS back in 2011.

Many young teens who aren't too familiar with the material find themselves drawn to communism cause it's cool, only to grow out of it.