Left-Wing Discussion Thread II: Behind 700,000 Bunkers

[Pilarcraft]

IDK. real life cat/human hybrids could be pretty cool, at least as a concept. I mean sure, when you think about how exactly the human/cat hybrid was created, it might not sound quite as cool anymore, but the concept itself (say, the popular reply: a scientist did it by genetic engineering or sth) is pretty interesting.
To be completely honest, though, I'd prefer anthropomorphic animals to animal/human hybrids.

[Dumb Ideologies]

If the right likes anime, does the left like furries?

The radical centre doubles down on the degeneracy and gets Schrödinger from Hellsing. Adorable Nazi catboys? I'll be in my bunk.

[Cekoviu]

Our society has reached a singularity beyond which it cannot function. As a result, politics, both left and right wing (as can be seen in both threads) are meaningless, and instead of discussing ideology, both Left and Right wing resort now to sharing cute anime girls and hating on furries, as they must embrace the absurdity of their own existence, because no meaning is left in society.

honestly, true.
instead of debating or discussing ideologies, we're... what? Meme-ing ourselves by "[] is a bourgeoisie concept"
ugh.
it's almost like it's all meaningless

We only have a few phrases left that we still understand. :'(
"____ is a spook"
"____ is bourgeois"
"to the gulag"
"ACAB" if you're an anarchist

[United Muscovite Nations]

>tfw too smart to not embrace Xi Jinping thought for the new era of Socialism with Chinese Characteristics

[-Jochistan-]

I'd say my preffered economic system is communism or syndicalism. I'm not entirely sure which would be better to build a revolution on.

If the right likes anime, does the left like furries?

It's the internet, everybody likes anime.

Catgirls and Catboys don't count. :^)

[Sanctissima]

I'd say my preffered economic system is communism or syndicalism. I'm not entirely sure which would be better to build a revolution on.

Oh gods, the infection is spreading.

What happened to the Sufi mystic with a hard-on for Islamic Central Asian nomads?

Welcome back, by the way.

[-Jochistan-]

I'd say my preffered economic system is communism or syndicalism. I'm not entirely sure which would be better to build a revolution on.

Oh gods, the infection is spreading.

What happened to the Sufi mystic with a hard-on for Islamic Central Asian nomads?

Welcome back, by the way.

Thank you
And he's still there he's just not Muslim anymore.

I like to think I've transcended that. :^)

[Sanctissima]

Oh gods, the infection is spreading.

What happened to the Sufi mystic with a hard-on for Islamic Central Asian nomads?

Welcome back, by the way.

He's still there he's just not Muslim anymore.

I like to think I've transcended that. :^)

Oy vey.

[-Jochistan-]

He's still there he's just not Muslim anymore.

I like to think I've transcended that. :^)

Oy vey.

Do not use the language of the Zionists

[Sanctissima]

Oy vey.

Do not use semetic language.

But I'm a Zionist shill. :^)

[-Jochistan-]

Do not use semetic language.

But I'm a Zionist shill. :^)

As my Dad would say; Get out of this house

[Sanctissima]

But I'm a Zionist shill. :^)

As my Dad would say; Get out of his house

But according to the Anti-Defamation League, it's my house. Now gib reparations for the Holocaust goyim.

[War Gears]

I'd say my preffered economic system is communism or syndicalism. I'm not entirely sure which would be better to build a revolution on.

Syndicalism, it's communal, spiritual, and warlike. Much better than Communism.

[Pilarcraft]

random question from someone who needs help.
Is democratic Confederalism left-wing? and where can I find books and/or other sources to study it from?

[Communist Xomaniax]

>tfw too smart to not embrace Xi Jinping thought for the new era of Socialism with Chinese Characteristics

SOCIALISM
IN
ONE
SWEATSHOP

[Crysuko]

As my Dad would say; Get out of his house

But according to the Anti-Defamation League, it's my house. Now gib reparations for the Holocaust goyim.

*narrows eyes* i'm warning you

[War Gears]

But according to the Anti-Defamation League, it's my house. Now gib reparations for the Holocaust goyim.

*narrows eyes* i'm warning you

If only you were actually threatening.

I'd say my preffered economic system is communism or syndicalism. I'm not entirely sure which would be better to build a revolution on.

Syndicalism, it's communal, spiritual, and warlike. Much better than Communism.

But to get this back on topic, I think that syndicalism is the best chance that the Left has of being a viable modern movement here in the West, precisely because of this reason.

[Olivaero]

I'd say my preffered economic system is communism or syndicalism. I'm not entirely sure which would be better to build a revolution on.

Syndicalism, it's communal, spiritual, and warlike. Much better than Communism.

Syndicalism is completely un-tenable with modern unions being the way they are. Union bosses being basically bourgeoisie.And I have no idea why you think the "communal spirit" is greater in syndicalism than communism.

[Herador]

Syndicalism, it's communal, spiritual, and warlike. Much better than Communism.

Syndicalism is completely un-tenable with modern unions being the way they are. Union bosses being basically bourgeoisie.And I have no idea why you think the "communal spirit" is greater in syndicalism than communism.

What does"communal spirit" even mean? How does one measure it?

[Crysuko]

Syndicalism is completely un-tenable with modern unions being the way they are. Union bosses being basically bourgeoisie.And I have no idea why you think the "communal spirit" is greater in syndicalism than communism.

What does"communal spirit" even mean? How does ine measure it?

the answer lies in a german milk shop :^)

[MERIZoC]

>tfw too smart to not embrace Xi Jinping thought for the new era of Socialism with Chinese Characteristics

I'm gonna assume all the stuff the CPC comes out with sounds better in Chinese, cause in translation it always sounds absurdly clunky.

[War Gears]

Syndicalism is completely un-tenable with modern unions being the way they are. Union bosses being basically bourgeoisie.

The idea that syndicalism means accepting modern unions as they are right now is laughable. Socialist syndicates have never been organized the same as capitalist ones.

And I have no idea why you think the "communal spirit" is greater in syndicalism than communism.

You must not have actually read my post, because I never ascribed a superior or inferior "communal spirit" to either ideologies.

Syndicalism is inherently communal, centered around the unity of the labor organization in overturning capitalism and creating a new order built around producerism. Proudhon, Sorel, Berth, and other syndicalist thinkers were opposed to the crass materialism of Marxism and proposed a more spiritual view of socialism. In contrast, Communism in either individualistic (libertarian Marxism) or totalitarian (Maoism, Marxist-Leninism, etc.) and is thoroughly materialist, centered around the conceit that it's "scientific" which alienates the religious and less deterministic.

[Sanctissima]

Syndicalism is completely un-tenable with modern unions being the way they are. Union bosses being basically bourgeoisie.

The idea that syndicalism means accepting modern unions as they are right now is laughable. Socialist syndicates have never been organized the same as capitalist ones.

And I have no idea why you think the "communal spirit" is greater in syndicalism than communism.

You must not have actually read my post, because I never ascribed a superior or inferior "communal spirit" to either ideologies.

Syndicalism is inherently communal, centered around the unity of the labor organization in overturning capitalism and creating a new order built around producerism. Proudhon, Sorel, Berth, and other syndicalist thinkers were opposed to the crass materialism of Marxism and proposed a more spiritual view of socialism. In contrast, Communism in either individualistic (libertarian Marxism) or totalitarian (Maoism, Marxist-Leninism, etc.) and is thoroughly materialist, centered around the conceit that it's "scientific" which alienates the religious and less deterministic.

Aye, but what kind of Syndicalism are we talking about?

Because historically, most Syndicalist movements and regions where the ideology actually got implemented were weak, prone to intense infighting and chaos, were complete economic wrecks and ultimately got overtaken by Right-wing regimes.

Not a great track record.

[Olivaero]

Syndicalism is completely un-tenable with modern unions being the way they are. Union bosses being basically bourgeoisie.

The idea that syndicalism means accepting modern unions as they are right now is laughable. Socialist syndicates have never been organized the same as capitalist ones.

Syndicalism is the idea that you can build socialism through the union movement, for that the union movement has to actually be good.

And I have no idea why you think the "communal spirit" is greater in syndicalism than communism.

You must not have actually read my post, because I never ascribed a superior or inferior "communal spirit" to either ideologies.

Syndicalism is inherently communal, centered around the unity of the labor organization in overturning capitalism and creating a new order built around producerism. Proudhon, Sorel, Berth, and other syndicalist thinkers were opposed to the crass materialism of Marxism and proposed a more spiritual view of socialism. In contrast, Communism in either individualistic (libertarian Marxism) or totalitarian (Maoism, Marxist-Leninism, etc.) and is thoroughly materialist, centered around the conceit that it's "scientific" which alienates the religious and less deterministic.

The spirit in communism is what you make of it. There is great communal spirit in working as an equal with your fellow man for the good of everyone and yourself. One of the key principles of internationalism is that the working class in each nation have more in common with each other than they have with their bourgeois compatriots. Whilst the ethos behind how communists think society will be governed in socialism is scientific, the movement it's self is bound to be communal in nature. I think your confusing the analysis provided by marx with the way communists actually operate and organise.

[Cekoviu]

The idea that syndicalism means accepting modern unions as they are right now is laughable. Socialist syndicates have never been organized the same as capitalist ones.

Syndicalism is the idea that you can build socialism through the union movement, for that the union movement has to actually be good.

You must not have actually read my post, because I never ascribed a superior or inferior "communal spirit" to either ideologies.

Syndicalism is inherently communal, centered around the unity of the labor organization in overturning capitalism and creating a new order built around producerism. Proudhon, Sorel, Berth, and other syndicalist thinkers were opposed to the crass materialism of Marxism and proposed a more spiritual view of socialism. In contrast, Communism in either individualistic (libertarian Marxism) or totalitarian (Maoism, Marxist-Leninism, etc.) and is thoroughly materialist, centered around the conceit that it's "scientific" which alienates the religious and less deterministic.

The spirit in communism is what you make of it. There is great communal spirit in working as an equal with your fellow man for the good of everyone and yourself. One of the key principles of internationalism is that the working class in each nation have more in common with each other than they have with their bourgeois compatriots. Whilst the ethos behind how communists think society will be governed in socialism is scientific, the movement it's self is bound to be communal in nature. I think your confusing the analysis provided by marx with the way communists actually operate and organise.

I'm just here for the memes