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Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:03 pm**

The Eternal Aulus wrote:
Serkia wrote:This is probably one of the biggest pieces of propaganda I've seen.

Yeah no mate

Oh yes because I forgot when the Soviet Union used flamethrowers in Afghanistan.

Genivaria wrote:
Serkia wrote:This is probably one of the biggest pieces of propaganda I've seen.

Nice touch with the tank commander wearing gasmasks to dehumanize them.

Them killing the goats was a good part as well.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:10 pm**

Serkia wrote:
The Eternal Aulus wrote:Yeah no mate

Oh yes because I forgot when the Soviet Union used flamethrowers in Afghanistan.

Really big ones. Stop shifting goalposts. The USSR didn't have a clean history in the war. In every piece of propaganda there is some truth.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:13 pm**

The Eternal Aulus wrote:
Serkia wrote:Oh yes because I forgot when the Soviet Union used flamethrowers in Afghanistan.

Really big ones. Stop shifting goalposts. The USSR didn't have a clean history in the war. In every piece of propaganda there is some truth.

Just curious, but can we really count a rocket-launcher launching incendiary rockets as a flamethrower? That seems more like a flame-launchy-explodey device.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:15 pm**

Torrocca wrote:
The Eternal Aulus wrote:Really big ones. Stop shifting goalposts. The USSR didn't have a clean history in the war. In every piece of propaganda there is some truth.

Just curious, but can we really count a rocket-launcher launching incendiary rockets as a flamethrower? That seems more like a flame-launchy-explodey device.

Yes.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:16 pm**

Genivaria wrote:
Serkia wrote:This is probably one of the biggest pieces of propaganda I've seen.

Nice touch with the tank commander wearing gasmasks to dehumanize them.

They just made me horny.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:17 pm**

Torrocca wrote:
The Eternal Aulus wrote:Really big ones. Stop shifting goalposts. The USSR didn't have a clean history in the war. In every piece of propaganda there is some truth.

Just curious, but can we really count a rocket-launcher launching incendiary rockets as a flamethrower? That seems more like a flame-launchy-explodey device.

Well, it's still throwing flames. Just less directly.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:18 pm**

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Just curious, but can we really count a rocket-launcher launching incendiary rockets as a flamethrower? That seems more like a flame-launchy-explodey device.

Yes.

I'll just pretend the rockets themselves are flamethrowers spewing jets of raining hot death across the earth ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:22 pm**

The Eternal Aulus wrote:
Serkia wrote:Oh yes because I forgot when the Soviet Union used flamethrowers in Afghanistan.

Really big ones. Stop shifting goalposts. The USSR didn't have a clean history in the war. In every piece of propaganda there is some truth.

I'm not shifting goalposts, I admit the USSR commit massacres during the War but the video I posted portrayed the Soviets as evil monsters and doesn't the crimes committed by the Mujahedeen.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:24 pm**

Serkia wrote:
The Eternal Aulus wrote:Really big ones. Stop shifting goalposts. The USSR didn't have a clean history in the war. In every piece of propaganda there is some truth.

I'm not shifting goalposts, I admit the USSR commit massacres during the War but the video I posted portrayed the Soviets as evil monsters and doesn't the crimes committed by the Mujahedeen.

"BUT WHAT ABOUT-"

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:28 pm**

Serkia wrote:
The Eternal Aulus wrote:Really big ones. Stop shifting goalposts. The USSR didn't have a clean history in the war. In every piece of propaganda there is some truth.

I'm not shifting goalposts, I admit the USSR commit massacres during the War but the video I posted portrayed the Soviets as evil monsters and doesn't the crimes committed by the Mujahedeen.

Because war makes people evil monsters son. It makes them commit what we see as atrocities. If you think there is no truth in that and that it is merely ''propaganda'' you need a wake up call.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:35 pm**

The Eternal Aulus wrote:
Serkia wrote:I'm not shifting goalposts, I admit the USSR commit massacres during the War but the video I posted portrayed the Soviets as evil monsters and doesn't the crimes committed by the Mujahedeen.

Because war makes people evil monsters son. It makes them commit what we see as atrocities. If you think there is no truth in that and that it is merely ''propaganda'' you need a wake up call.

I admitted there was truth behind the atrocities, but if you think them killing goats is not propaganda then you're the one who needs a wake up call.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:37 pm**

Serkia wrote:
The Eternal Aulus wrote:Because war makes people evil monsters son. It makes them commit what we see as atrocities. If you think there is no truth in that and that it is merely ''propaganda'' you need a wake up call.

I admitted there was truth behind the atrocities, but if you think them killing goats is not propaganda then you're the one who needs a wake up call.

The Eternal Aulus wrote:In every piece of propaganda there is some truth.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:38 pm**

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Nice touch with the tank commander wearing gasmasks to dehumanize them.

They just made me horny.

I'm disappointed that Googleing 'sexy gas mask' turns up actual results.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:44 pm**

Collatis wrote:
Serkia wrote:I admitted there was truth behind the atrocities, but if you think them killing goats is not propaganda then you're the one who needs a wake up call.

The Eternal Aulus wrote:In every piece of propaganda there is some truth.

Oh yes because propaganda can never be used to demonise the enemy.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:52 pm**

Kubra wrote:aw they replaced it with another republic that time, not an empire or semi-fascist rump state. Apparently they're thinking of sticking with the whole republic thing.

«- Ce que j'ai essayé de faire, c'est d'opérer la synthèse entre la monarchie et la république.
- Une république monarchique ? fis-je
- Si vous voulez. Disons plutôt une monarchie républicaine. »
"- What I tried to do, it's to undertake the synthesis of the Monarchy and the Republic.
- A Monarchical Republic ? I said
- If you want. Let's rather call it a Republican Monarchy, instead."
t. based De Gaulle

But yeah, we're essentially an elective dictatorship given the fuck-off powers the Président de la République has. It's not for nothing the commies got uber-triggered when De Gaulle passed the constitutions through Referendum because, had he wanted, he could have very easily coup-ed. Even today, the only thing stopping a new 2 Décembre from happening is the lack of a sufficiently competent, ambitious and beloved man in power.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:55 pm**

Genivaria wrote:I'm disappointed that Googleing 'sexy gas mask' turns up actual results.

>being disapointed at such magnificent sight
J U S T

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:59 pm**

Aellex wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I'm disappointed that Googleing 'sexy gas mask' turns up actual results.

>being disapointed at such magnificent sight
J U S T

~~I see you're a man of culture as well~~
Do Krieg Korps usually get time to shave their bottoms?

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:54 pm**

Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

I know this puts me around the libertarian left, but what politicians/ideologies/movements would this score associate me with?

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:29 pm**

36 Camera Perspective wrote:Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

I know this puts me around the libertarian left, but what politicians/ideologies/movements would this score associate me with?

The Greens? Pirate Party, maybe?

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:55 pm**

36 Camera Perspective wrote:Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

I know this puts me around the libertarian left, but what politicians/ideologies/movements would this score associate me with?

Social democracy/social liberalism/green?

Speaking of the Political Compass, I recently retook it and got -4.38, -4.77. That's a very slight shift to the right and down from my previous score (-5, -4.52 iirc).

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:07 pm**

Collatis wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

I know this puts me around the libertarian left, but what politicians/ideologies/movements would this score associate me with?

Social democracy/social liberalism/green?

Speaking of the Political Compass, I recently retook it and got -4.38, -4.77. That's a very slight shift to the right and down from my previous score (-5, -4.52 iirc).

Probably social democracy.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:38 pm**

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Collatis wrote:Social democracy/social liberalism/green?

Speaking of the Political Compass, I recently retook it and got -4.38, -4.77. That's a very slight shift to the right and down from my previous score (-5, -4.52 iirc).

Probably social democracy.

Given it is near the middle of the green square, yes.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:40 pm**

36 Camera Perspective wrote:Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

I know this puts me around the libertarian left, but what politicians/ideologies/movements would this score associate me with?

It's probably best to not put much faith in the scores and read about different things and see what makes sense.

Describing your ideology based on an internet test you take is not the greatest idea.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:46 pm**

MERIZoC wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

I know this puts me around the libertarian left, but what politicians/ideologies/movements would this score associate me with?

It's probably best to not put much faith in the scores and read about different things and see what makes sense.

Describing your ideology based on an internet test you take is not the greatest idea.

I don't. I just wanted to have some pseudo-objectivity to the rather formless nexus that is my political beliefs. I entertain many different positions simultaneously and that can be confusing to some.

Posted: **Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:46 pm**

36 Camera Perspective wrote:Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

I know this puts me around the libertarian left, but what politicians/ideologies/movements would this score associate me with?

whatever you make it out to be.

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