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Preferred economic system?

Welfare Capitalism
93
23%
Market Socialism
62
15%
Mutualism
10
2%
Syndicalism
40
10%
Communalism
13
3%
State Planning
36
9%
Decentralised Planning
27
7%
Higher Phase Communism
38
9%
Left-wing Market Anarchism
15
4%
Other
67
17%
 
Total votes : 401

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:33 pm

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That was what /r/socialism used to label it misogynistic. I'm saying it wasn't and that the subreddit's mods were looking way too far into it.


I don't disagree. Just pointing out it's ironic how the trend changed.


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Postby Albrenia » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:45 pm

Sargon amuses me. I disagree with him on most points, but still find his content entertaining for the most part. Thunderf00t is better though, imho.

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Postby Kassaran » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:54 pm

Albrenia wrote:Sargon amuses me. I disagree with him on most points, but still find his content entertaining for the most part. Thunderf00t is better though, imho.

I used to watch Thunderf00t, but his separation from the skeptics was done dirty and I personally share the opinion it was done disingenuously. I won't discredit him for it though, he did a lot of good work and still does. I just don't really feel like following up with him anymore after seeing the fallout of it all.

Then again, most people in here are probably simmering at the mentioning of you tubers because somehow the medium is the quality and not the arguments or what have you.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:55 pm

Kassaran wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Sargon amuses me. I disagree with him on most points, but still find his content entertaining for the most part. Thunderf00t is better though, imho.

I used to watch Thunderf00t, but his separation from the skeptics was done dirty and I personally share the opinion it was done disingenuously. I won't discredit him for it though, he did a lot of good work and still does. I just don't really feel like following up with him anymore after seeing the fallout of it all.

Then again, most people in here are probably simmering at the mentioning of you tubers because somehow the medium is the quality and not the arguments or what have you.

Youtube is acceptable for people presenting their views and arguments in an organized way, but it is not a place to find actual evidence.
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:56 pm

Kassaran wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Sargon amuses me. I disagree with him on most points, but still find his content entertaining for the most part. Thunderf00t is better though, imho.

I used to watch Thunderf00t, but his separation from the skeptics was done dirty and I personally share the opinion it was done disingenuously. I won't discredit him for it though, he did a lot of good work and still does. I just don't really feel like following up with him anymore after seeing the fallout of it all.

Then again, most people in here are probably simmering at the mentioning of you tubers because somehow the medium is the quality and not the arguments or what have you.


Yeah, Thunderf00t did not handle that whole deal very well at all.

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Postby Kassaran » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:01 pm

Genivaria wrote:Youtube is acceptable for people presenting their views and arguments in an organized way, but it is not a place to find actual evidence.

Hence why I enjoy watching Sargon. He is generally pretty good all around at providing evidence when it is needed and giving citations, nevermind that he usually just spends his time unravelling other's arguments. I've particularly been enjoying his recent series on Third World cultures. Didn't even know about half that stuff in the first place and only had heard of the rest from generalized statements that made it seem like less of an issue than it actually is.
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A: Very effective
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The United Remnants of America wrote:You keep that cheap Chinese knock-off away from the real OG.
Same goes for Task Force Rainbow.

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that's a real deal. We just don't buy the license rights.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:14 pm

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Pffft morality is a spook.

Spooks are a spook, along with everything else that's important to a society.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:18 pm

Any responsible socialist society would institute harsh criminal punishments for furry activities.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:41 pm

Hearken comrades! Our society is faced not just with an economic crisis but a moral and spiritual one! Emanating from the base of a rotting economy and fetid institutions the stink of late capitalist bourgeois degeneracy emerges, like some deadly miasma, to poison our hearts and minds at this pivotal moment of struggle. But we are no longer defenceless! The Committee for Proletarian Morality now stands as a great bulwark of the toiling classes against the onrushing bourgeois decadence and degeneracy that emanates from the dastardly alt-right, the ostensibly centrist liberalism and quite sadly our own leftist comrades.

Members of the Committee pledge to:

1. Tut disapprovingly at individualist libertine hedonism, and where relevant dismantle it's philosophical premises.
2. Relentlessly disparage furries and their ilk.
3. Say "that's weird", or words to that effect, when people are talking about weird shit.
4. Uphold and promote a rigorous and vitalic proletarian morality, based in the common sense traditions of our class.


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We call on all moral comrades of the left to join the committee, and advertise it as demonstrated above. Together we can overcome degeneracy! For the promotion of proletarian virtue and the prevention of bourgeois vice! Onwards to the final victory!

- Bakery Hill
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Postby War Gears » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:49 pm

Kassaran wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Youtube is acceptable for people presenting their views and arguments in an organized way, but it is not a place to find actual evidence.

Hence why I enjoy watching Sargon. He is generally pretty good all around at providing evidence when it is needed and giving citations, nevermind that he usually just spends his time unravelling other's arguments. I've particularly been enjoying his recent series on Third World cultures. Didn't even know about half that stuff in the first place and only had heard of the rest from generalized statements that made it seem like less of an issue than it actually is.


Sargon isn't a very good arguer, from the little I remember about him. No one who wants to be taken seriously should quote Road to Serfdom.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Italios » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:51 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:Hearken comrades! Our society is faced not just with an economic crisis but a moral and spiritual one! Emanating from the base of a rotting economy and fetid institutions the stink of late capitalist bourgeois degeneracy emerges, like some deadly miasma, to poison our hearts and minds at this pivotal moment of struggle. But we are no longer defenceless! The Committee for Proletarian Morality now stands as a great bulwark of the toiling classes against the onrushing bourgeois decadence and degeneracy that emanates from the dastardly alt-right, the ostensibly centrist liberalism and quite sadly our own leftist comrades.

Members of the Committee pledge to:

1. Tut disapprovingly at individualist libertine hedonism, and where relevant dismantle it's philosophical premises.
2. Relentlessly disparage furries and their ilk.
3. Say "that's weird", or words to that effect, when people are talking about weird shit.
4. Uphold and promote a rigorous and vitalic proletarian morality, based in the common sense traditions of our class.


We call on all moral comrades of the left to join the committee, and advertise it as I have done in their signature. Together we can overcome degeneracy! For the promotion of proletarian virtue and the prevention of bourgeois vice! Onwards to the final victory!

- Bakery Hill

5. reprimand people (with force if necessary) who put pineapple on their pizza
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:54 pm

Italios wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Hearken comrades! Our society is faced not just with an economic crisis but a moral and spiritual one! Emanating from the base of a rotting economy and fetid institutions the stink of late capitalist bourgeois degeneracy emerges, like some deadly miasma, to poison our hearts and minds at this pivotal moment of struggle. But we are no longer defenceless! The Committee for Proletarian Morality now stands as a great bulwark of the toiling classes against the onrushing bourgeois decadence and degeneracy that emanates from the dastardly alt-right, the ostensibly centrist liberalism and quite sadly our own leftist comrades.

Members of the Committee pledge to:

1. Tut disapprovingly at individualist libertine hedonism, and where relevant dismantle it's philosophical premises.
2. Relentlessly disparage furries and their ilk.
3. Say "that's weird", or words to that effect, when people are talking about weird shit.
4. Uphold and promote a rigorous and vitalic proletarian morality, based in the common sense traditions of our class.


We call on all moral comrades of the left to join the committee, and advertise it as I have done in their signature. Together we can overcome degeneracy! For the promotion of proletarian virtue and the prevention of bourgeois vice! Onwards to the final victory!

- Bakery Hill

5. reprimand people (with force if necessary) who put pineapple on their pizza

Be careful. We socialists have split over less.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:46 pm

Kassaran wrote:Bread alone does not sustain a man and all that good stuff.

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Postby Albrenia » Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:49 pm

Beard intensifies as well, it seems.

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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:52 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Italios wrote:5. reprimand people (with force if necessary) who put pineapple on their pizza

Be careful. We socialists have split over less.

Splitters!
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Postby Valgora » Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:52 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:Hearken comrades! Our society is faced not just with an economic crisis but a moral and spiritual one! Emanating from the base of a rotting economy and fetid institutions the stink of late capitalist bourgeois degeneracy emerges, like some deadly miasma, to poison our hearts and minds at this pivotal moment of struggle. But we are no longer defenceless! The Committee for Proletarian Morality now stands as a great bulwark of the toiling classes against the onrushing bourgeois decadence and degeneracy that emanates from the dastardly alt-right, the ostensibly centrist liberalism and quite sadly our own leftist comrades.

Members of the Committee pledge to:

1. Tut disapprovingly at individualist libertine hedonism, and where relevant dismantle it's philosophical premises.
2. Relentlessly disparage furries and their ilk.
3. Say "that's weird", or words to that effect, when people are talking about weird shit.
4. Uphold and promote a rigorous and vitalic proletarian morality, based in the common sense traditions of our class.


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We call on all moral comrades of the left to join the committee, and advertise it as demonstrated above. Together we can overcome degeneracy! For the promotion of proletarian virtue and the prevention of bourgeois vice! Onwards to the final victory!

- Bakery Hill


I already want to split from this.

I shall create a group called, Leftists for Proletarian Degeneracy
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:01 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Kassaran wrote:Bread alone does not sustain a man and all that good stuff.

Image

You wouldn't download bread.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:10 pm

Valgora wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Hearken comrades! Our society is faced not just with an economic crisis but a moral and spiritual one! Emanating from the base of a rotting economy and fetid institutions the stink of late capitalist bourgeois degeneracy emerges, like some deadly miasma, to poison our hearts and minds at this pivotal moment of struggle. But we are no longer defenceless! The Committee for Proletarian Morality now stands as a great bulwark of the toiling classes against the onrushing bourgeois decadence and degeneracy that emanates from the dastardly alt-right, the ostensibly centrist liberalism and quite sadly our own leftist comrades.

Members of the Committee pledge to:

1. Tut disapprovingly at individualist libertine hedonism, and where relevant dismantle it's philosophical premises.
2. Relentlessly disparage furries and their ilk.
3. Say "that's weird", or words to that effect, when people are talking about weird shit.
4. Uphold and promote a rigorous and vitalic proletarian morality, based in the common sense traditions of our class.


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We call on all moral comrades of the left to join the committee, and advertise it as demonstrated above. Together we can overcome degeneracy! For the promotion of proletarian virtue and the prevention of bourgeois vice! Onwards to the final victory!

- Bakery Hill


I already want to split from this.

I shall create a group called, Leftists for Proletarian Degeneracy

Good idea. And we can have a debate down the local about whether furries are fucked up or not. Good luck comrade. :^)
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Postby Valgora » Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:25 pm

Principles of the Leftists for Proletarian Degeneracy:

1. To encourage individualistic libertine hedonism while encouraging mutual aid.
2. Approving and supporting comrades who are also furries.
2 B. Rewrite the Communist Manifesto and/or other leftist texts using furry online chatspeak which includes: UwU, OwO, and... what ever the fuck this is - :3c.
3. Accepting and allowing people to talk about weird shit with or without saying "that's weird"; and understanding that weird shit, can also be cool shit.
4. Dismantle traditional ideals about morality and unless traditions that lack value.

Notice: this is a work in progress and if anyone would be willing to help make this, that would be hilarious and awesome.

Revision of principle two: after the smoking of much weed, it has come to the conclusion that 2B needs to be changed or there needs to be the creation of 2C. 2B either should include bronyspeak or 2C should be the rewriting of leftist literature in bronyspeak.
This is to preferably be done while either drunk, high, or both.
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Libertarian Marxist
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Postby Liriena » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:12 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Valgora wrote:
I already want to split from this.

I shall create a group called, Leftists for Proletarian Degeneracy

Good idea. And we can have a debate down the local about whether furries are fucked up or not. Good luck comrade. :^)

No need for a debate on furries. It's all fairly simple: all furries are wonderful... except this one.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:13 pm

Liriena wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Good idea. And we can have a debate down the local about whether furries are fucked up or not. Good luck comrade. :^)

No need for a debate on furries. It's all fairly simple: all furries are wonderful... except this one.

It's a demeaning of the human form.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:14 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Liriena wrote:No need for a debate on furries. It's all fairly simple: all furries are wonderful... except this one.

It's a demeaning of the human form.

It's cute and occasionally sexy. And mostly harmless.
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An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:14 pm

Liriena wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Good idea. And we can have a debate down the local about whether furries are fucked up or not. Good luck comrade. :^)

No need for a debate on furries. It's all fairly simple: all furries are wonderful... except this one.


What am I looking at?

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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:15 pm

Liriena wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Good idea. And we can have a debate down the local about whether furries are fucked up or not. Good luck comrade. :^)

No need for a debate on furries. It's all fairly simple: all furries are wonderful... except this one.

Furries are fucking weird, the only question is the degree to which they are weird. They are daily reminder that the internet was a mistake.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:15 pm

Liriena wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:It's a demeaning of the human form.

It's cute and occasionally sexy. And mostly harmless.

If you find dressing up as a non-human being sexy, then that shows the problem in the furry groups.
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