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Postby Wiztopia » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:07 am

Chetssaland wrote:
Joannalandia wrote:My second grade teacher taught all of us that human being inhale oxygen and exhale carbon monoxide. She then defended her point when several 2nd graders corrected her, by telling them to "stop questioning her and stand in the corner." ...She was a bad teacher.


I hate the teachers who refuse to be corrected. I've had teachers where they'll give actually give us a peice of candy or something along those lines if we correct them at the right time and place (after class; it would be kind of rude to do it in class). I've had others who would do exactly what yours did. Yes, I know that I'm not smarter than the teachers. All I'm saying is that they should be willing to be corrected if they're wrong.


They deserve to have it said in class. How the fuck is it rude?

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Postby Wiztopia » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:08 am

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Wiztopia wrote:You must be like a 50 year old bitter teacher then. What the hell kind of discipline can a uniform actually enforce? There's really no real reason to even have a stupid rule such as that. Also that coke thing is incredibly stupid. Who the fuck makes a rule such as that?


Is it possible you're projecting American society (or whatever country you live in) to the rest of us? School uniform is pretty standard in places like the UK.


Yet again I say that school uniforms in general are stupid.

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Postby Hydesland » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:08 am

Natapoc wrote:So many ultra authoritarians on this forum.


Seriously, using that word is probably quite offensive to people that have actually lived under 'ultra-authoritarian' regimes where what you call ultra-authoritarian is comparatively extremely trivial and minor. In essence, it's very immature to start bandying that word around lightly.

Teachers should not be the "Rulers of the classroom" what better way to train a child how to best behave in a so called democracy then to raise them in a dictatorship of a classroom right? And you wonder why they grow up to have no understanding or desire to participate in society.


No, raising a child (as has been shown) to believe that they have complete autonomy in any situation is what is extremely harmful and destructive, as the real world does not work like that in the least bit. A regular job is far more 'authoritarian' than any school, and children who grow up without the capacity to understand that their autonomy has limits in certain situations have serious trouble being productive members of society.

This is the kind of logic the western world fought bloody revolutions to topple.


Again, this is fucking insane. You seriously seem utterly incapable of perspective, no revolution was ever fought anything anywhere near as trivial as this. Even the schools under Castro or Lenin were comparatively highly authoritarian .

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Postby Hydesland » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:10 am

Wiztopia wrote:Yet again I say that school uniforms in general are stupid.


I, and most of my friends, were raised wearing uniforms in school. Apparently it's not stupid enough to cause me or my friends any angst or discomfort.

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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:59 am

Arivada wrote:I remember my fourth grade teacher saying that the Prime Meridian and the Intl. dateline were the samething. I said "no, they are not. They may be connected but they are different" then he researched it and found out I was right.


Good for your teacher.

This is exactly what I'd expect from a good teacher. Instead of wasting class time arguing (and possibly being wrong) the teacher should admit that they could be wrong, and they'll get back to you. And of course they should get back to you when they've checked their facts, whether they were right or wrong.

If that leads others students in the class to study out of class time (out of curiosity, or of desire to pwn the teacher) well that's good.
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:07 am

On school uniforms: as an Olde Codger I like being able to tell which school to report truants to.

When I see school-age children out enjoying themselves in school hours, there isn't much I can do about it if they're wearing street clothes. I can't demand their name, I wouldn't trust them to tell me which school they attend even if they did answer that question, and calling the cops on them is over-the-top. All I can do is offer polite advice about valuing their education and please stop putting grafitti on the train, it's putting up the price of train tickets.

If they're wearing uniform though, I can identify their school and report them directly to the school. A physical description of the truant is usually enough, given that the school has a list of students absent that day.
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Postby Hegstoria » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:15 am

My 6th grade science teacher upon being asked if Nuclear reactors and bombs split the atom of whatever molecule was in it at the time said "No, they don't split the atom.". Now normally I wouldn't care, but she was teaching us about stars and nuclear fusion, the fool should have at least understood the basic concepts of FISION, its in the bloody name for christs sake. Oh and btw, I already knew the answer, I was just testing her knowledge, I am a mischievous little bastard :D.
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:26 am

Hegstoria wrote:My 6th grade science teacher upon being asked if Nuclear reactors and bombs split the atom of whatever molecule was in it at the time said "No, they don't split the atom.". Now normally I wouldn't care, but she was teaching us about stars and nuclear fusion, the fool should have at least understood the basic concepts of FISION, its in the bloody name for christs sake. Oh and btw, I already knew the answer, I was just testing her knowledge, I am a mischievous little bastard :D.


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Postby Wiztopia » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:38 am

Hydesland wrote:
Wiztopia wrote:Yet again I say that school uniforms in general are stupid.


I, and most of my friends, were raised wearing uniforms in school. Apparently it's not stupid enough to cause me or my friends any angst or discomfort.


Never said it would cause you angst or discomfort. I said that school uniforms are stupid.

Nobel Hobos wrote:On school uniforms: as an Olde Codger I like being able to tell which school to report truants to.

When I see school-age children out enjoying themselves in school hours, there isn't much I can do about it if they're wearing street clothes. I can't demand their name, I wouldn't trust them to tell me which school they attend even if they did answer that question, and calling the cops on them is over-the-top. All I can do is offer polite advice about valuing their education and please stop putting grafitti on the train, it's putting up the price of train tickets.

If they're wearing uniform though, I can identify their school and report them directly to the school. A physical description of the truant is usually enough, given that the school has a list of students absent that day.


If somebody demanded to know who I was I would either lie to them or tell them to fuck off. Though I never did skip school. Why the fuck would you waste your time to report kids? That is incredibly stupid.

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Postby Hegstoria » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:42 am

Nobel Hobos wrote:
Hegstoria wrote:My 6th grade science teacher upon being asked if Nuclear reactors and bombs split the atom of whatever molecule was in it at the time said "No, they don't split the atom.". Now normally I wouldn't care, but she was teaching us about stars and nuclear fusion, the fool should have at least understood the basic concepts of FISION, its in the bloody name for christs sake. Oh and btw, I already knew the answer, I was just testing her knowledge, I am a mischievous little bastard :D.


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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:46 am

Hegstoria wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:
Hegstoria wrote:My 6th grade science teacher upon being asked if Nuclear reactors and bombs split the atom of whatever molecule was in it at the time said "No, they don't split the atom.". Now normally I wouldn't care, but she was teaching us about stars and nuclear fusion, the fool should have at least understood the basic concepts of FISION, its in the bloody name for christs sake. Oh and btw, I already knew the answer, I was just testing her knowledge, I am a mischievous little bastard :D.


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Shhh... The CIA are listening. :D


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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:48 am

Wiztopia wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
Wiztopia wrote:Yet again I say that school uniforms in general are stupid.


I, and most of my friends, were raised wearing uniforms in school. Apparently it's not stupid enough to cause me or my friends any angst or discomfort.


Never said it would cause you angst or discomfort. I said that school uniforms are stupid.


Nobel Hobos wrote:On school uniforms: as an Olde Codger I like being able to tell which school to report truants to.

When I see school-age children out enjoying themselves in school hours, there isn't much I can do about it if they're wearing street clothes. I can't demand their name, I wouldn't trust them to tell me which school they attend even if they did answer that question, and calling the cops on them is over-the-top. All I can do is offer polite advice about valuing their education and please stop putting grafitti on the train, it's putting up the price of train tickets.

If they're wearing uniform though, I can identify their school and report them directly to the school. A physical description of the truant is usually enough, given that the school has a list of students absent that day.


If somebody demanded to know who I was I would either lie to them or tell them to fuck off. Though I never did skip school. Why the fuck would you waste your time to report kids? That is incredibly stupid.


Upholding a law I believe is right.

Do you disagree with compulsory education for children ?
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Postby Ryadn » Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:24 pm

Natapoc wrote:So many ultra authoritarians on this forum. Even if your arguments were true why would any of these reasons be sufficient to restrict a persons rights?

Teachers should not be the "Rulers of the classroom" what better way to train a child how to best behave in a so called democracy then to raise them in a dictatorship of a classroom right? And you wonder why they grow up to have no understanding or desire to participate in society.

This is the kind of logic the western world fought bloody revolutions to topple.


That might work if people parented their children. Often, they don't. My job is to teach their children. I don't have time to raise them as well. Child A's desire to choose his level of participation in school does not override the other 19-29 children in the class and their right to learn. If he wants to explore power dynamics and campaign for a new system, he can do it outside of my classroom. My students are trying to learn geometry.
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Postby Loftgren » Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:57 pm

My current history teacher usually does a good job keeping his lessons unbiased, but last week he showed us a video that listed people who had overcome hardships and gone on to do amazing things. Then he told us that the free market was responsible for their successes. It was absurd, especially considering that some of the people mentioned were labor leaders or socialists (Helen Keller, Albert Einstein, and Caesar Chavez are the only ones I can remember now) and the hardships they faced were their class backgrounds! I told him that I thought that using socialists' images to promote capitalism was disrespectful. I ... don't think he likes me very much.

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Postby Rejistania » Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:11 pm

Joannalandia wrote:
Kolpi wrote:My third grade teacher showed the class two lines that weren't intersecting, but they were nowhere near parallel.
He said any two lines that were not intersecting were parallel. He was wrong.

Well in a way, this is correct. Geometrically speaking in 2 dimensions, lines continue forever from both ends. Thus, the only pair of lines that don't intersect SOMEWHERE are parallel lines. Line segments and rays on the other hand have end points, and it's possible for these to be neither intersecting nor parallel.

While we're nitpicking: This is only valid in Euclidian geometry.
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Postby Dazchan » Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:18 pm

Wiztopia wrote:You must be like a 50 year old bitter teacher then. What the hell kind of discipline can a uniform actually enforce? There's really no real reason to even have a stupid rule such as that. Also that coke thing is incredibly stupid. Who the fuck makes a rule such as that?


Well I'm a 25-year-old teacher and so far everything Saint Jade has said I would agree with. It seems you're not interested in discussion - your argument is made up entirely of saying "That's stupid" or ad hom attacks.

Uniforms are a great way to identify students, for good reasons and bad. As someone has already pointed out, it helps keep tabs on truants. My school gets a lot of praise from the community for how our students behave in public - something that wouldn't be possible if the community couldn't identify them. Most students need a reminder at the start of the year that their uniform tells everyone who they are, and they act responsible in public knowing that they're representing the school.

Here's a little scenario for you: Last week, I (with five other teachers) took 180 students to the aquarium. There was another school group there at the same time, students roughly the same age as my own. I relied on uniforms to find and track down my kids. In the semi-lit environment with literally hundreds of kids running around, how would you tell your students apart from the crowd?
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Postby Wiztopia » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:20 pm

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Wiztopia wrote:You must be like a 50 year old bitter teacher then. What the hell kind of discipline can a uniform actually enforce? There's really no real reason to even have a stupid rule such as that. Also that coke thing is incredibly stupid. Who the fuck makes a rule such as that?


Well I'm a 25-year-old teacher and so far everything Saint Jade has said I would agree with. It seems you're not interested in discussion - your argument is made up entirely of saying "That's stupid" or ad hom attacks.

Uniforms are a great way to identify students, for good reasons and bad. As someone has already pointed out, it helps keep tabs on truants. My school gets a lot of praise from the community for how our students behave in public - something that wouldn't be possible if the community couldn't identify them. Most students need a reminder at the start of the year that their uniform tells everyone who they are, and they act responsible in public knowing that they're representing the school.

Here's a little scenario for you: Last week, I (with five other teachers) took 180 students to the aquarium. There was another school group there at the same time, students roughly the same age as my own. I relied on uniforms to find and track down my kids. In the semi-lit environment with literally hundreds of kids running around, how would you tell your students apart from the crowd?


Only stupid kids would even be wearing the school uniforms if they were truant. Smart ones would obviously take a change of clothing and put it in their bag. You really couldn't yet again only stupid kids would even try to skip during that period. Most of the time they would get suspended/expelled for it. I still stand by my point that school uniforms are stupid.

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:28 pm

Neo Art wrote:Because an 8th grade STUDENT apparently knows better?

:roll:


In my math and science classes in 8th grade, I knew as much, if not more, than the teacher. Oh wait, I was 13, so that must have been impossible. That's definitely a proven fact of neuroscience and philosophy.
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:32 pm

Neo Art wrote:and I tend to fall back on the default "how the fuck does a 12 year old know what's true?"


The same way anyone else does, principles of deduction, induction, and abduction, combined with a consistent and rational epistemology.

Oh wait, how silly of me, I forgot, this person is beneath the arbitrary age of maturity that has been absolutely and objectively determined by our government. It thus necessarily follows that whatever they say is wrong. In fact, if they make a correct statement, it instantly becomes incorrect because somebody under [16, 17, 18, 21] said so. That's right, teenagers have the power to rewrite the laws of logic on a single statement. Amazing.
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:34 pm

Astralsideria wrote:
Imperialist Reich wrote:My maths teacher tried to say that a square was the same as a circle. Happily - he dosnt work at school any more.


I'm intrigued: how the hell did he manage to do that, and still look vaguely plausible? Or am I wrong in my assumption that he looked plausible while doing this?


Well, if he was speaking topologically, he would be correct. A circle and a square are topologically equivalent.
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Postby Natapoc » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:37 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Neo Art wrote:and I tend to fall back on the default "how the fuck does a 12 year old know what's true?"


The same way anyone else does, principles of deduction, induction, and abduction, combined with a consistent and rational epistemology.

Oh wait, how silly of me, I forgot, this person is beneath the arbitrary age of maturity that has been absolutely and objectively determined by our government. It thus necessarily follows that whatever they say is wrong. In fact, if they make a correct statement, it instantly becomes incorrect because somebody under [16, 17, 18, 21] said so. That's right, teenagers have the power to rewrite the laws of logic on a single statement. Amazing.


yay! UnhealthyTruthseeker agrees with me on something :)

I said the same thing about induction, deduction, ect and did not get the best response. Hopefully you will have better luck.
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:38 pm

Rejistania wrote:Well in a way, this is correct. Geometrically speaking in 2 dimensions, lines continue forever from both ends. Thus, the only pair of lines that don't intersect SOMEWHERE are parallel lines. Line segments and rays on the other hand have end points, and it's possible for these to be neither intersecting nor parallel.


Except that it isn't correct. If the teacher produced two lines that did not intersect but did not face in the same direction, AND this teacher was working in Euclidean geometry, then it necessarily follows that this teacher must have been working in three dimensions or more. I somehow doubt the teacher was working in higher than three dimensions. Anyway, in three dimensions or higher, it is possible to produce lines that are non-intersecting and yet non-parallel. They are called skew lines, and they are all non-coplanar. It is also the case that two lines are skew if they aren't coplanar.
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:40 pm

Natapoc wrote:yay! UnhealthyTruthseeker agrees with me on something :)

I said the same thing about induction, deduction, ect and did not get the best response. Hopefully you will have better luck.


Like hell I agree with you. Teenagers are always automatically wrong. How do I prove this? With a technique called proof by Neo Art said so.
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Postby Marcurix » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:40 pm

Im a R.E class of mine.

Teacher: Freedoms are important, none should be held above the other, freedom of speech, religion, life, they are all important and must not be repressed, its not something we do in this country.
Student: Ok. I disagree with Islam
Teacher: Why?
Student: Because it represses females, children and gives excuse for people to murder.
Teacher: Get out.
Me: Why did you send him out?
Teacher: I wont have comments like that im my classroom.
Me: But you just said freedom of speech was important.
Teacher: Yes
Me: The why send him out?
Teacher: He insulted someone’s religion
Me: But you just repressed his speech, for that matter shouldn’t someone be punished if they kill in the name of their religion?
Teacher: Get out.


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Postby KenKenpachi » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:44 pm

Marcurix wrote:Im a R.E class of mine.

Teacher: Freedoms are important, none should be held above the other, freedom of speech, religion, life, they are all important and must not be repressed, its not something we do in this country.
Student: Ok. I disagree with Islam
Teacher: Why?
Student: Because it represses females, children and gives excuse for people to murder.
Teacher: Get out.
Me: Why did you send him out?
Teacher: I wont have comments like that im my classroom.
Me: But you just said freedom of speech was important.
Teacher: Yes
Me: The why send him out?
Teacher: He insulted someone’s religion
Me: But you just repressed his speech, for that matter shouldn’t someone be punished if they kill in the name of their religion?
Teacher: Get out.


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"Nation States General board. You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy"

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