Stupid Crap Teachers Told You

[Saint Jade IV]

That is the key right there: Mutual respect. It is the most important thing when dealing with other people. If the teacher gives no respect he or she will get no respect in return.

Yeah, go ahead and try that in the real world.

See how far it gets you.

It works very well thank you. You sure seem upset about something. Do you dislike challenges to illegitimate authority structures? Are you bigoted against youth? What is wrong?

You know, the trouble I find with youth, including some of the students I have taught, is that they complain loudest about being disrespected and treated like children when they are being treated like the adults they insist on being treated as. My current group of students, by and large, live on isolated cattle, sheep and crop properties, where they from a very young age have been involved in mustering, shearing, butchering, fencing, harvesting and a range of other related activities. Funnily enough, they seem to understand the way the world works a lot better than most students far older than them. I think it might be that they have actually experienced the real world and understand that if someone is in a position of authority, its usually because they have a reason - they know more than you do, or they have more experience in the area. They also learnt pretty damn quickly that if you're being told to do something, there is a reason for it. If they do have a question about why they have to do something, they tend to wait until after and ask me quietly. Which demonstrates respect for my position. And tends to get them a more mature, thoughtful and complete answer than the idiots who think they are tough by asking me in front of the whole class in a challenging tone.

Its not about challenging authority structures. My students are quite willing to challenge me on areas outside my authority when need be. But when I am supervising or teaching these students in my current school, they tend to respect that. They don't ask for an explanation on why they can't talk during a test, or why they have to sit together on the mat while I talk to them or whine about having to do their work. They just get on with the job.

[Natapoc]

I drop out high school because all my teachers were fucking commie

Expecially my english teacher used to give me low score because i said politically incorrect thing

She said the most stupid thing i have ever hear"Fanta was a Coca-cola production created to sell in nazi german" conspiracy theorism to much??

public school= brainwashing

Grammer fail......have fun working at the gas station Muhamed

Wow, so you spell grammar and Mohamed wrong just for starters. You then make an assumption that all gas station attendants are Muslim. You're doing well!

Just along these lines... if one of you has dropped out of school or wants to don't think you can't get a good education and a great job.

One good book to read for anyone considering quitting school (it is starting to get a bit dated) is: "The Teenage Liberation Handbook: How to Quit School and Get a Real Life"

[The Parthians]

Reminds me of an amusing conversation I had junior year of high school in my AP World History class.

Teacher: "Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Iran, and the other Arab countries all came into existence with the fall of the Ottoman Empire."

Parth: "Iran isn't an Arab country and was always independent of the Ottomans. The Safavids, and later dynasties like the Afsharids and Qajars were successful in resisting them for their history."

Teacher: "I'm pretty sure Iran is an Arab country..."

Parth: "That's impossible, there's an Arab minority in the Southwest, but the majority of the population speaks Farsi."

Teacher: "But isn't Farsi a dialect of Arabic?"

Parth: "No... it's the Iranian dialect of Persian, which is an Indo-European language. It's more closely related to Greek or Russian than to Arabic."

Teacher: "But it's Muslim..."

Parth: "So is Indonesia, or Malaysia, or 10% of India, but they're certainly NOT Arabs."

Teacher: "Ok... well, I guess I'll have to wiki that later, but I'm pretty sure it's an Arab country."

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*sighs*
Stupid, stupid, stupid people...

[Seperates]

I drop out high school because all my teachers were fucking commie

Expecially my english teacher used to give me low score because i said politically incorrect thing

She said the most stupid thing i have ever hear"Fanta was a Coca-cola production created to sell in nazi german" conspiracy theorism to much??

public school= brainwashing

Grammer fail......have fun working at the gas station Muhamed

Wow, so you spell grammar and Mohamed wrong just for starters. You then make an assumption that all gas station attendants are Muslim. You're doing well!

Actually..."Grammer/Grammar" can be spelled both ways, depending on whether you are English or American. The most stupid thing that I ever heard was my history teacher trying to explain the plot of the original Frankenstein, by using the media's screwed up version... Hell, she would have come closer to the truth had she explained using Mel Brook's Young Frankenstein.

[KenKenpachi]

Reminds me of an amusing conversation I had junior year of high school in my AP World History class.

Teacher: "Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Iran, and the other Arab countries all came into existence with the fall of the Ottoman Empire."

Parth: "Iran isn't an Arab country and was always independent of the Ottomans. The Safavids, and later dynasties like the Afsharids and Qajars were successful in resisting them for their history."

Teacher: "I'm pretty sure Iran is an Arab country..."

Parth: "That's impossible, there's an Arab minority in the Southwest, but the majority of the population speaks Farsi."

Teacher: "But isn't Farsi a dialect of Arabic?"

Parth: "No... it's the Iranian dialect of Persian, which is an Indo-European language. It's more closely related to Greek or Russian than to Arabic."

Teacher: "But it's Muslim..."

Parth: "So is Indonesia, or Malaysia, or 10% of India, but they're certainly NOT Arabs."

Teacher: "Ok... well, I guess I'll have to wiki that later, but I'm pretty sure it's an Arab country."

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*sighs*
Stupid, stupid, stupid people...

"Look it doesn't matter if its wrong, sit down write it and just deal with it. What the state wants the state gets. Yeah your right, but whats in the book is what matters."

lulz and people think teachers are smart. Hmm honestly at times I don't see how the current education system shows how smart a person is or isn't in a way, given its all more or less, copy this, remember that, more so than learning at times it seems. Given most teachers just copy and rewrite whats in another book.

Edit for an error, damn you dyslexia!

[Natapoc]

That is the key right there: Mutual respect. It is the most important thing when dealing with other people. If the teacher gives no respect he or she will get no respect in return.

Yeah, go ahead and try that in the real world.

See how far it gets you.

It works very well thank you. You sure seem upset about something. Do you dislike challenges to illegitimate authority structures? Are you bigoted against youth? What is wrong?

You know, the trouble I find with youth, including some of the students I have taught, is that they complain loudest about being disrespected and treated like children when they are being treated like the adults they insist on being treated as. My current group of students, by and large, live on isolated cattle, sheep and crop properties, where they from a very young age have been involved in mustering, shearing, butchering, fencing, harvesting and a range of other related activities. Funnily enough, they seem to understand the way the world works a lot better than most students far older than them. I think it might be that they have actually experienced the real world and understand that if someone is in a position of authority, its usually because they have a reason - they know more than you do, or they have more experience in the area. They also learnt pretty damn quickly that if you're being told to do something, there is a reason for it. If they do have a question about why they have to do something, they tend to wait until after and ask me quietly. Which demonstrates respect for my position. And tends to get them a more mature, thoughtful and complete answer than the idiots who think they are tough by asking me in front of the whole class in a challenging tone.

Its not about challenging authority structures. My students are quite willing to challenge me on areas outside my authority when need be. But when I am supervising or teaching these students in my current school, they tend to respect that. They don't ask for an explanation on why they can't talk during a test, or why they have to sit together on the mat while I talk to them or whine about having to do their work. They just get on with the job.

Right as I said above it is about mutual respect not one way respect. The kid we were talking about in that conversation was harassed by a teacher for being Russian and for being from a communist country. The teacher was not showing respect. It sounds like some of your students are the same way: They don't show you respect and I bet they don't get it back right?

That was my point as you will see if you read the rest of the context of those posts back a few pages.

[KenKenpachi]

That is the key right there: Mutual respect. It is the most important thing when dealing with other people. If the teacher gives no respect he or she will get no respect in return.

Yeah, go ahead and try that in the real world.

See how far it gets you.

It works very well thank you. You sure seem upset about something. Do you dislike challenges to illegitimate authority structures? Are you bigoted against youth? What is wrong?

You know, the trouble I find with youth, including some of the students I have taught, is that they complain loudest about being disrespected and treated like children when they are being treated like the adults they insist on being treated as. My current group of students, by and large, live on isolated cattle, sheep and crop properties, where they from a very young age have been involved in mustering, shearing, butchering, fencing, harvesting and a range of other related activities. Funnily enough, they seem to understand the way the world works a lot better than most students far older than them. I think it might be that they have actually experienced the real world and understand that if someone is in a position of authority, its usually because they have a reason - they know more than you do, or they have more experience in the area. They also learnt pretty damn quickly that if you're being told to do something, there is a reason for it. If they do have a question about why they have to do something, they tend to wait until after and ask me quietly. Which demonstrates respect for my position. And tends to get them a more mature, thoughtful and complete answer than the idiots who think they are tough by asking me in front of the whole class in a challenging tone.

Its not about challenging authority structures. My students are quite willing to challenge me on areas outside my authority when need be. But when I am supervising or teaching these students in my current school, they tend to respect that. They don't ask for an explanation on why they can't talk during a test, or why they have to sit together on the mat while I talk to them or whine about having to do their work. They just get on with the job.

Right as I said above it is about mutual respect not one way respect. The kid we were talking about in that conversation was harassed by a teacher for being Russian and for being from a communist country. The teacher was not showing respect. It sounds like some of your students are the same way: They don't show you respect and I bet they don't get it back right?

That was my point as you will see if you read the rest of the context of those posts back a few pages.

In defense of the other person some people don't show it unless you earn it from them. As to the teacher he was lucky the USSR was our sworn enemy at the time, in some areas he might have been killed not down talked.


Edit fixed again -_-

[Seperates]

That is the key right there: Mutual respect. It is the most important thing when dealing with other people. If the teacher gives no respect he or she will get no respect in return.

Yeah, go ahead and try that in the real world.

See how far it gets you.

It works very well thank you. You sure seem upset about something. Do you dislike challenges to illegitimate authority structures? Are you bigoted against youth? What is wrong?

You know, the trouble I find with youth, including some of the students I have taught, is that they complain loudest about being disrespected and treated like children when they are being treated like the adults they insist on being treated as. My current group of students, by and large, live on isolated cattle, sheep and crop properties, where they from a very young age have been involved in mustering, shearing, butchering, fencing, harvesting and a range of other related activities. Funnily enough, they seem to understand the way the world works a lot better than most students far older than them. I think it might be that they have actually experienced the real world and understand that if someone is in a position of authority, its usually because they have a reason - they know more than you do, or they have more experience in the area. They also learnt pretty damn quickly that if you're being told to do something, there is a reason for it. If they do have a question about why they have to do something, they tend to wait until after and ask me quietly. Which demonstrates respect for my position. And tends to get them a more mature, thoughtful and complete answer than the idiots who think they are tough by asking me in front of the whole class in a challenging tone.

Its not about challenging authority structures. My students are quite willing to challenge me on areas outside my authority when need be. But when I am supervising or teaching these students in my current school, they tend to respect that. They don't ask for an explanation on why they can't talk during a test, or why they have to sit together on the mat while I talk to them or whine about having to do their work. They just get on with the job.

Right as I said above it is about mutual respect not one way respect. The kid we were talking about in that conversation was harassed by a teacher for being Russian and for being from a communist country. The teacher was not showing respect. It sounds like some of your students are the same way: They don't show you respect and I bet they don't get it back right?

That was my point as you will see if you read the rest of the context of those posts back a few pages.

I respect my teacher's authority as long as they don't fuck up the facts when they teach, because then no one but me learns and I don't want to be in a world filled with bumbling idiots. Other than that I could care less what they do for hw. As long as they do their job well.

[Wiztopia]

You apparently know that. I know that.

Apparently, a third of Texans didn't get that memo.

I was referring to your claim that that's the belief of a third of Texans. It's a load of crap.

Let's change it to 1/3 of Texans polled http://search.aol.com/aol/search?invocationType=tb50-ff-aol-ab-en-us&query=texans+believing+dinosaurs+and+humans+walked+together Take your pick of links saying that you are wrong and he was right.

my teacher makes bible references all through history class

like chapter and verse?

more Jewish but yea

Teaching parts of the bible in context with history as a historical document. For instance if he were using parts of the bible to reference a particular place and time can be historical valuable to you. If he's just ripping the Torah to teach stories and parables about life he'd be out of bounds. The bible can be used as a study of our complete history. I don't like to be reactionary immediately if the bible comes up in schools. It's natural due to the fact that most people in this nation do subscribe to it, or so they tell us. If you are using the book to press theology upon the students it is wrong. Using it in a comparative theology class is great! It goes from good to terribly wrong. The bible should be able to be handled by a high school senior in context with the rest of the world. Make it an elective and get permission and all that mind-numbing crap. I'm all about freedom of religion...but not so much to make it freedom from religion.

Religion is a part of our world that students will need to understand in order to function in diverse backgrounds. Then let them choose what they want to be. Let them find their own faith even if it's not yours. Parents fighting to make their children follow their faith is sad to me. They've clearly seen what your faith has to offer and they are not satisfied. Nine times out of ten then fall back to your religion anyway after trying another out. Being religious/faithful myself, I find it so arrogant that many religious people feel that they have the #1 answer. They and they alone have the answer to God and they know this because...that's where the story dies. Nobody's come back from the dead to tell us which of us wins!!!!! I know it's fucking terrible! But it is the truth about any and all religion so stop being such a smarmy fuck and looking down on others. So I will continue to love God in the only way I know how. I will allow you to do the very same no matter what form it may take and please I don't need to hear how you're religion does it better than mine. Keep that shit to yourselves and we'll make fabulous neighbors.

1) Nobody really cares if you're religious. NO religious book ever belongs in any non religious class.

2) Children should NEVER be taught one religion. It's a form of brainwashing taking say a 5-6 year old to church. They should choose what they want to be much later in life at around 17-18.

[Lacadaemon]

You know, the trouble I find with youth, including some of the students I have taught, is that they complain loudest about being disrespected and treated like children when they are being treated like the adults they insist on being treated as. My current group of students, by and large, live on isolated cattle, sheep and crop properties, where they from a very young age have been involved in mustering, shearing, butchering, fencing, harvesting and a range of other related activities. Funnily enough, they seem to understand the way the world works a lot better than most students far older than them. I think it might be that they have actually experienced the real world and understand that if someone is in a position of authority, its usually because they have a reason - they know more than you do, or they have more experience in the area. They also learnt pretty damn quickly that if you're being told to do something, there is a reason for it. If they do have a question about why they have to do something, they tend to wait until after and ask me quietly. Which demonstrates respect for my position. And tends to get them a more mature, thoughtful and complete answer than the idiots who think they are tough by asking me in front of the whole class in a challenging tone.

Its not about challenging authority structures. My students are quite willing to challenge me on areas outside my authority when need be. But when I am supervising or teaching these students in my current school, they tend to respect that. They don't ask for an explanation on why they can't talk during a test, or why they have to sit together on the mat while I talk to them or whine about having to do their work. They just get on with the job.

Society, in general, overprotects the young these days. I am not saying that kids should be treated like adults, but there is a tendency to hover and treat them like three year olds until they are in their late teens (or early twenties). People can only learn responsibility by being given it, and also letting them learn about failure.

I think, if you look at it historically, younger people were given much more of an active role in day to day society than they are today, and what many places have now created is a prolonged babyhood which people necessarily rebel against. That is not to say that kids should vote or anything, because obviously they don't know enough about shit. No-one should vote until they are at least 35, maybe 40. But there is an artificial cliff between adulthood and helpless childhood that has been created, and it explains a lot.

I think that's what you are seeing, at any rate.

[Saint Jade IV]

That is the key right there: Mutual respect. It is the most important thing when dealing with other people. If the teacher gives no respect he or she will get no respect in return.

Yeah, go ahead and try that in the real world.

See how far it gets you.

It works very well thank you. You sure seem upset about something. Do you dislike challenges to illegitimate authority structures? Are you bigoted against youth? What is wrong?

You know, the trouble I find with youth, including some of the students I have taught, is that they complain loudest about being disrespected and treated like children when they are being treated like the adults they insist on being treated as. My current group of students, by and large, live on isolated cattle, sheep and crop properties, where they from a very young age have been involved in mustering, shearing, butchering, fencing, harvesting and a range of other related activities. Funnily enough, they seem to understand the way the world works a lot better than most students far older than them. I think it might be that they have actually experienced the real world and understand that if someone is in a position of authority, its usually because they have a reason - they know more than you do, or they have more experience in the area. They also learnt pretty damn quickly that if you're being told to do something, there is a reason for it. If they do have a question about why they have to do something, they tend to wait until after and ask me quietly. Which demonstrates respect for my position. And tends to get them a more mature, thoughtful and complete answer than the idiots who think they are tough by asking me in front of the whole class in a challenging tone.

Its not about challenging authority structures. My students are quite willing to challenge me on areas outside my authority when need be. But when I am supervising or teaching these students in my current school, they tend to respect that. They don't ask for an explanation on why they can't talk during a test, or why they have to sit together on the mat while I talk to them or whine about having to do their work. They just get on with the job.

Right as I said above it is about mutual respect not one way respect. The kid we were talking about in that conversation was harassed by a teacher for being Russian and for being from a communist country. The teacher was not showing respect. It sounds like some of your students are the same way: They don't show you respect and I bet they don't get it back right?

That was my point as you will see if you read the rest of the context of those posts back a few pages.

I read it all. My problem with your attitude is that it attacks authority figures in general rather than one specific person. Children should have respect for the position. And you were actually referring to a poster who talked about "messing around with their teachers".

[The Adrian Empire]

Actually, here's another one. I am friends with a Japanese teacher (to remove the ambiguity, she teaches the Japanese language) who one day asked her students (can't remember what grade) where Japan was. The general consensus was "Isn't it in Tokyo or something?"

Oh I can go one better than that. I asked my students what the capital of Japan was one day (I am a Japanese teacher also) and their first response was, "Oh I know I know - China." I then tried to redirect their thinking by telling them that it started with a "T". I got, "Thailand, Taiwan, Tonga?"

I think their grade 6 teacher missed a few crucial lessons on the difference between a country and a city.

A few years ago a teacher asked our class to find and label certain countries in the world, I got done in about ten minutes so I went around helping other people, among them several people who did not know where Belgium which wouldn't be that bad if they hadn't been sure it was located in the Caribbean, the worst were unsure of the location of North America, further confusing the United States with Canada

[Natapoc]

That is the key right there: Mutual respect. It is the most important thing when dealing with other people. If the teacher gives no respect he or she will get no respect in return.

Yeah, go ahead and try that in the real world.

See how far it gets you.

It works very well thank you. You sure seem upset about something. Do you dislike challenges to illegitimate authority structures? Are you bigoted against youth? What is wrong?

You know, the trouble I find with youth, including some of the students I have taught, is that they complain loudest about being disrespected and treated like children when they are being treated like the adults they insist on being treated as. My current group of students, by and large, live on isolated cattle, sheep and crop properties, where they from a very young age have been involved in mustering, shearing, butchering, fencing, harvesting and a range of other related activities. Funnily enough, they seem to understand the way the world works a lot better than most students far older than them. I think it might be that they have actually experienced the real world and understand that if someone is in a position of authority, its usually because they have a reason - they know more than you do, or they have more experience in the area. They also learnt pretty damn quickly that if you're being told to do something, there is a reason for it. If they do have a question about why they have to do something, they tend to wait until after and ask me quietly. Which demonstrates respect for my position. And tends to get them a more mature, thoughtful and complete answer than the idiots who think they are tough by asking me in front of the whole class in a challenging tone.

Its not about challenging authority structures. My students are quite willing to challenge me on areas outside my authority when need be. But when I am supervising or teaching these students in my current school, they tend to respect that. They don't ask for an explanation on why they can't talk during a test, or why they have to sit together on the mat while I talk to them or whine about having to do their work. They just get on with the job.

Right as I said above it is about mutual respect not one way respect. The kid we were talking about in that conversation was harassed by a teacher for being Russian and for being from a communist country. The teacher was not showing respect. It sounds like some of your students are the same way: They don't show you respect and I bet they don't get it back right?

That was my point as you will see if you read the rest of the context of those posts back a few pages.

I read it all. My problem with your attitude is that it attacks authority figures in general rather than one specific person. Children should have respect for the position. And you were actually referring to a poster who talked about "messing around with their teachers".

My theory is to treat everyone the way you want to be treated without respect to titles. Most people like being treated like that. But if the other person does not reciprocate then I stop associating with them. The problems come from when you are forced into a situation with a person who treats you poorly in return. In that case what is wrong with messing around with them?

Why should anyone respect someone else on the basis of that other person being an "authority figure." Respect a person because they are a fellow being inhabiting this earth. Not because they have some title. And if they abuse that respect by all means pull yours also.

[Wiztopia]

My science teacher, just today, promised to show us pictures of aborted babies to show us how horrible abortion is next week.

He also hates pre-marital sex ("don't understand marriage"), any birth control but 'rhythm' or whatever that is and a bunch of other things.

Jesus Christ. I seriously hope nobody is ignorant enough to change their views from pro-choice to pro-life because of that.

Oh, and I almost forgot; this was what was at the end of our birth control lecture:

Abstinence is the only 100% birth control method.

Er. That is 100% right. Condoms can break and birth control bills don't always work.

[Ryadn]

and I tend to fall back on the default "how the fuck does a 12 year old know what's true?"

Not about science stuff all of the time, but things in general. Of course, I guess she's a science teacher for a reason and not a history or english teacher. Also, 13 .

what the fuck does a 13 year old know what's true, in general?

What is with your infatuation with the word "fuck?"

Children have life experiences just as adults do and they use the powers of induction and deduction to arrive at conclusions that may or may not be consistent with reality.

Right, but less about 75% of the executive functioning capabilities of a fully matured adult. Less also the years necessary to do extensive research and reading.

[Ryadn]

Another good one... the first year I came to the United States my Biology Teacher went out of his way to explain how Communism is evil, he then had the balls to call me "Commie" throughout that year.

Have you considered therapy?

Therapy outside of NSG, I mean.

[Natapoc]

and I tend to fall back on the default "how the fuck does a 12 year old know what's true?"

Not about science stuff all of the time, but things in general. Of course, I guess she's a science teacher for a reason and not a history or english teacher. Also, 13 .

what the fuck does a 13 year old know what's true, in general?

What is with your infatuation with the word "fuck?"

Children have life experiences just as adults do and they use the powers of induction and deduction to arrive at conclusions that may or may not be consistent with reality.

Right, but less about 75% of the executive functioning capabilities of a fully matured adult. Less also the years necessary to do extensive research and reading.

Yep. Which means they may very well come to a wrong conclusion that they can learn from. Making mistakes and learning from them is the most natural way that people learn.

There is nothing wrong with being wrong as long as you are able to learn from it.

[Ryadn]

What a hostile school environment I would have recommended you start calling him comrade, sing the Internationale (english lyrics so he would understand) during the pledge, and drawing hammers and sickle on all the work you turned in but it would probably have been dangerous for you to do so.

because nothing shows maturity like childish rebellion

You could call it maturity... or you could call it trying to inject humor and fun into a bad situation?

Intentionally antagonizing an authority figure rather than go through the necessary and proper channels?

No, I'm going to call it exactly what it is. Fucking childish.

Excuse me, sir/mam, but relax a little. He/she was just joking around and I always have a little fun messing with teachers. You don't need to be a zombie to be smart or mature.

And then you're shocked when they're not overjoyed to be in your wise presence. Shocking. You must have terrible burns on your hands from touching the stove so many times.

[North Amerikan States]

Evolution is a fairy tale. 6th
The pilgrims were pentacostle. Don't remember the grade

[Ryadn]

I drop out high school because all my teachers were fucking commie

Expecially my english teacher used to give me low score because i said politically incorrect thing

She said the most stupid thing i have ever hear"Fanta was a Coca-cola production created to sell in nazi german" conspiracy theorism to much??

public school= brainwashing

Grammer fail......have fun working at the gas station Muhamed

Wow, so you spell grammar and Mohamed wrong just for starters. You then make an assumption that all gas station attendants are Muslim. You're doing well!

Just along these lines... if one of you has dropped out of school or wants to don't think you can't get a good education and a great job.

One good book to read for anyone considering quitting school (it is starting to get a bit dated) is: "The Teenage Liberation Handbook: How to Quit School and Get a Real Life"

Can I call Poe now? How about now? No one can unintentionally sabotage their own position this hideously, right? Please, I need to regain a measure of faith in humanity.

[Saint Jade IV]

That is the key right there: Mutual respect. It is the most important thing when dealing with other people. If the teacher gives no respect he or she will get no respect in return.

Yeah, go ahead and try that in the real world.

See how far it gets you.

It works very well thank you. You sure seem upset about something. Do you dislike challenges to illegitimate authority structures? Are you bigoted against youth? What is wrong?

You know, the trouble I find with youth, including some of the students I have taught, is that they complain loudest about being disrespected and treated like children when they are being treated like the adults they insist on being treated as. My current group of students, by and large, live on isolated cattle, sheep and crop properties, where they from a very young age have been involved in mustering, shearing, butchering, fencing, harvesting and a range of other related activities. Funnily enough, they seem to understand the way the world works a lot better than most students far older than them. I think it might be that they have actually experienced the real world and understand that if someone is in a position of authority, its usually because they have a reason - they know more than you do, or they have more experience in the area. They also learnt pretty damn quickly that if you're being told to do something, there is a reason for it. If they do have a question about why they have to do something, they tend to wait until after and ask me quietly. Which demonstrates respect for my position. And tends to get them a more mature, thoughtful and complete answer than the idiots who think they are tough by asking me in front of the whole class in a challenging tone.

Its not about challenging authority structures. My students are quite willing to challenge me on areas outside my authority when need be. But when I am supervising or teaching these students in my current school, they tend to respect that. They don't ask for an explanation on why they can't talk during a test, or why they have to sit together on the mat while I talk to them or whine about having to do their work. They just get on with the job.

Right as I said above it is about mutual respect not one way respect. The kid we were talking about in that conversation was harassed by a teacher for being Russian and for being from a communist country. The teacher was not showing respect. It sounds like some of your students are the same way: They don't show you respect and I bet they don't get it back right?

That was my point as you will see if you read the rest of the context of those posts back a few pages.

I read it all. My problem with your attitude is that it attacks authority figures in general rather than one specific person. Children should have respect for the position. And you were actually referring to a poster who talked about "messing around with their teachers".

My theory is to treat everyone the way you want to be treated without respect to titles. Most people like being treated like that. But if the other person does not reciprocate then I stop associating with them. The problems come from when you are forced into a situation with a person who treats you poorly in return. In that case what is wrong with messing around with them?

Why should anyone respect someone else on the basis of that other person being an "authority figure." Respect a person because they are a fellow being inhabiting this earth. Not because they have some title. And if they abuse that respect by all means pull yours also.

You should respect someone's title when with that title comes the knowledge and experience relevant to their role. Furthermore, many teenagers have a problem with basic discipline being enforced in the classroom. They don't like being asked to sit quietly and listen to the teacher, they don't like being told to do things they don't want to do, and they whine that they are being denied free expression because we ask them to wear uniforms or appropriate clothing or not to write obscenities over their book covers or school property. I am quite scared about what is going to happen when they get into the real world they build up so much and find out that in fact, the same behaviour that we expect from them in school is expected in the real world. The difference being that in the real world, you don't get detention, you get fired when you break the rules.

[Natapoc]

I drop out high school because all my teachers were fucking commie

Expecially my english teacher used to give me low score because i said politically incorrect thing

She said the most stupid thing i have ever hear"Fanta was a Coca-cola production created to sell in nazi german" conspiracy theorism to much??

public school= brainwashing

Grammer fail......have fun working at the gas station Muhamed

Wow, so you spell grammar and Mohamed wrong just for starters. You then make an assumption that all gas station attendants are Muslim. You're doing well!

Just along these lines... if one of you has dropped out of school or wants to don't think you can't get a good education and a great job.

One good book to read for anyone considering quitting school (it is starting to get a bit dated) is: "The Teenage Liberation Handbook: How to Quit School and Get a Real Life"

Can I call Poe now? How about now? No one can unintentionally sabotage their own position this hideously, right? Please, I need to regain a measure of faith in humanity.

Call Poe? Ah I looked it up. No I'm not satirizing. Do you claim differently? Are you under the belief that one must attend classes in a traditional school environment in order to get an great education and a well paying job?

[Unibot]

She also claimed that the Late 1800s were an example of laissez-faire economics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Steel_Company

Pardon me, I just don't see how that statement doesn't have atleast a hint of truth to it.

[Ryadn]

You should respect someone's title when with that title comes the knowledge and experience relevant to their role. Furthermore, many teenagers have a problem with basic discipline being enforced in the classroom. They don't like being asked to sit quietly and listen to the teacher, they don't like being told to do things they don't want to do, and they whine that they are being denied free expression because we ask them to wear uniforms or appropriate clothing or not to write obscenities over their book covers or school property. I am quite scared about what is going to happen when they get into the real world they build up so much and find out that in fact, the same behaviour that we expect from them in school is expected in the real world. The difference being that in the real world, you don't get detention, you get fired when you break the rules.

One of my third graders the other day, who disrupts class at least 15 times a day, asked (at random, in the middle of a math lesson) if they were going to college. I said, "Not if you keep going at this rate. Do you know what happens if you decide to carry on a loud conversation with your friend in lecture hall? They kick you out. And you don't get your money back."

He was shocked. "They don't even get a warning?" I told him my class was his warning.

[Moreau Catholic High]

The stupidest thing I've ever heard?

"The SAT is useful."