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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:14 am

HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:All the people saying that we should expect no effect one year after the vote because nothing will happen until we actually leave said that the stock market drops one minute after the vote were due to Brexit. Make up your god damn minds.

The stock market dropped one minute after the vote because of the Brexit vote, and inherently, the implications of Brexit therein.
"We didn't think this would happen oh shit, now the bad things will start to happen"

Then obviously, everyone realised we could scramble to get business as usual for two years before we came out, and that's basically where we are. We don't even have a deal. I imagine the terms of any deal being finalised, and indeed the ejection date, will both lead to minor or severe economic shocks (classifying the June 24th market reaction as "severe") and the question will be in the sustained length of such a reaction.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:18 am

Alkzine wrote:In my opinion, Ruth Davidson is the way to go considering how well she did in Scotland and the energy she exudes.

Davidson ain't an MP. She's an SMP and the leader of the Scottish Conservatives, sure, but she can't lead the whole-country Conservatives. Nor is George Osborne eligible, having left Parliament to go and become the editor of the London Evening Standard (his old seat of Tatton has now been reclaimed by another Conservative, Esther McVey, who you may remember as having lost her seat in the 2015 election).

Personally, I'd be willing to say Boris Johnson (for various reasons - reputation as the Mayor of London? Foreign Secretary? Revenge for the whole Michael Gove shenanigans last summer?), but I have a feeling that Theresa May could well beat the odds and remain leader (if she stands). Alternatively, with the five most important ministers staying put, we could well see a surprise crop up, but who knows?...
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:18 am

We must decide in a traditional and entirely British manner. I suggest duelling pistols at dawn. :)
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Postby Athrax » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:28 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:We must decide in a traditional and entirely British manner. I suggest duelling pistols at dawn. :)


Next winner of the Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling gets to be PM?

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Postby Pope Joan » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:34 am

Just as happened after the Brexit vote, there are many critics sniping from the corners but no one seems to have the guts to stand up and take charge.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:34 am

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Postby Risottia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:42 am

Athrax wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:We must decide in a traditional and entirely British manner. I suggest duelling pistols at dawn. :)


Next winner of the Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling gets to be PM?

That's for the Monster Party. For the head of the Tories, the most appropriate options would be the one who got the most money,or the one who shagged the most pig heads.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:45 am

Risottia wrote:
Athrax wrote:
Next winner of the Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling gets to be PM?

That's for the Monster Party. For the head of the Tories, the most appropriate options would be the one who got the most money,or the one who shagged the most pig heads.

Would that be counted by number of pig heads or by number of instances of pig head shagging? Would shagging the same pig head more than once count multiple times?

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:47 am

Alkzine wrote:In my opinion, Ruth Davidson is the way to go considering how well she did in Scotland and the energy she exudes.

Rolled up into the UK Politics Megathread.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:08 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:We must decide in a traditional and entirely British manner. I suggest duelling pistols at dawn. :)

What a disgustingly vulgar Americanism.
We should look to a more elegant weapon, from a more civilised age.

I suggest duelling sabres.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:18 am

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Postby Hydesland » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:22 am

HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:Yet we already know - what metric do you choose? Unemployment? FTSE 100? The FTSE 250 that was picked up solely because it could be spun as showing something bad, then forgotten just as suddenly as soon as it stopped showing that? The "experts" are clowns who have personal bias on the issue and have already been wrong about everything.


Name a single person who isn't a fraud or lunatic who thinks renegotiation 759 fucking treaties will be a doddle?

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:29 am

Hydesland wrote:
HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:Yet we already know - what metric do you choose? Unemployment? FTSE 100? The FTSE 250 that was picked up solely because it could be spun as showing something bad, then forgotten just as suddenly as soon as it stopped showing that? The "experts" are clowns who have personal bias on the issue and have already been wrong about everything.


Name a single person who isn't a fraud or lunatic who thinks renegotiation 759 fucking treaties will be a doddle?


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Postby Hydesland » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:31 am

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Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Nah, the brexiteers need a hard brexit to teach them a lesson. Or to teach the economists a lesson.

Someone needs to get what they deserve for once. We need to know whether Michael Gove's comment about experts was right or idiotic.

Yet we already know - what metric do you choose? Unemployment? FTSE 100? The FTSE 250 that was picked up solely because it could be spun as showing something bad, then forgotten just as suddenly as soon as it stopped showing that? The "experts" are clowns who have personal bias on the issue and have already been wrong about everything.


What metric? How about the fact that UK real wages are dropping for the first time in three years? How about the fact that UK household spending has fallen for the first time since 2013? How about the fact that UK inflation has surged back to a 4 year high? How about the fact that UK growth has tumbled to the bottom of the EU growth leagues? How about the fact that major banks will be shifting operations away from London, what will that do to the city? How about the fact that EU nurse applications have dropped by 96%?

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Postby Fetlar » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:32 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:We must decide in a traditional and entirely British manner. I suggest duelling pistols at dawn. :)

What a disgustingly vulgar Americanism.
We should look to a more elegant weapon, from a more civilised age.

I suggest duelling sabres.

What about grenades?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:34 am

Vassenor wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
Name a single person who isn't a fraud or lunatic who thinks renegotiation 759 fucking treaties will be a doddle?


FT paywall.

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Postby Hydesland » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:36 am

Vassenor wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
Name a single person who isn't a fraud or lunatic who thinks renegotiation 759 fucking treaties will be a doddle?


FT paywall.


tl;dr we're in for a rough ride.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:36 am

Fetlar wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:What a disgustingly vulgar Americanism.
We should look to a more elegant weapon, from a more civilised age.

I suggest duelling sabres.

What about grenades?


Not terribly civilised.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:38 am

Vassenor wrote:
Fetlar wrote:What about grenades?


Not terribly civilised.

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Postby HMS Queen Elizabeth » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:24 pm

Hydesland wrote:
HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:Yet we already know - what metric do you choose? Unemployment? FTSE 100? The FTSE 250 that was picked up solely because it could be spun as showing something bad, then forgotten just as suddenly as soon as it stopped showing that? The "experts" are clowns who have personal bias on the issue and have already been wrong about everything.


Name a single person who isn't a fraud or lunatic who thinks renegotiation 759 fucking treaties will be a doddle?

Surely a nice job for some law firm - so nice a job maybe it'd be easier not to award the contract at all.

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HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:Yet we already know - what metric do you choose? Unemployment? FTSE 100? The FTSE 250 that was picked up solely because it could be spun as showing something bad, then forgotten just as suddenly as soon as it stopped showing that? The "experts" are clowns who have personal bias on the issue and have already been wrong about everything.


What metric? How about the fact that UK real wages are dropping for the first time in three years? How about the fact that UK household spending has fallen for the first time since 2013? How about the fact that UK inflation has surged back to a 4 year high? How about the fact that UK growth has tumbled to the bottom of the EU growth leagues? How about the fact that major banks will be shifting operations away from London, what will that do to the city? How about the fact that EU nurse applications have dropped by 96%?

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Let us suppose I dispute none of this, neither fact nor causation. Is one quarter of 0.2% growth instead of 0.4% growth and marginally increased employment costs in one job in one industry really the same as the room being on fire? Really?

If the experts had said, "well, there'll be minor adjustment costs, but it's not a big deal either way", my scorn for them would not be so furious.
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Postby Philjia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:28 pm

May: "I got us into this mess I'll get us out of it."

Yeah, right. Good luck with that.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:30 pm

Philjia wrote:May: "I got us into this mess I'll get us out of it."

Yeah, right. Good luck with that.

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:33 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Not terribly civilised.

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Lightsabers are the only true option.


If we could we would, to bad we only have metal sabres.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:45 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:(Image)


Lightsabers are the only true option.


If we could we would, to bad we only have metal sabres.

Just make woosh! and shwoom! noises as you fight, we will add in more effects in post processing.
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Postby Salandriagado » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:24 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Alkzine wrote:In my opinion, Ruth Davidson is the way to go considering how well she did in Scotland and the energy she exudes.

Davidson ain't an MP. She's an SMP and the leader of the Scottish Conservatives, sure, but she can't lead the whole-country Conservatives. Nor is George Osborne eligible, having left Parliament to go and become the editor of the London Evening Standard (his old seat of Tatton has now been reclaimed by another Conservative, Esther McVey, who you may remember as having lost her seat in the 2015 election).

Personally, I'd be willing to say Boris Johnson (for various reasons - reputation as the Mayor of London? Foreign Secretary? Revenge for the whole Michael Gove shenanigans last summer?), but I have a feeling that Theresa May could well beat the odds and remain leader (if she stands). Alternatively, with the five most important ministers staying put, we could well see a surprise crop up, but who knows?...


That can be fixed easily enough: there's probably plenty of nobodies in safe seats who'd be more than happy to give up their seat for her to have the future leader owe them a favour.
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