UK Politics Thread 18-inch Mark VI: Witty Title Forthcoming

[Philjia]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-38237216

well i can't see many negative consequences from this

"Let's make the people who are supposed to help the unemployed unemployed". Because that's going to make the system more efficient.

[South Park Labourite]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-38237216

well i can't see many negative consequences from this

"Let's make the people who are supposed to help the unemployed unemployed". Because that's going to make the system more efficient.

It's a terrible decision, especially considering how incompetent the SNP is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -drop.html

Second gen immigrants raised in ghettos shouldn't be counted as British, because inevitably, they act nothing like it except in some fringe cases.

In what respect? I see people of black and asian descent in the more run down parts of Lewisham wearing poppies. What exactly makes them not British? And as someone from 'da suburbs', am I counted as British under your system?

[Philjia]

"Let's make the people who are supposed to help the unemployed unemployed". Because that's going to make the system more efficient.

It's a terrible decision, especially considering how incompetent the SNP is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -drop.html

"We'll destroy Scotland, and blame it on the SNP! "

[Souseiseki]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-38237216

well i can't see many negative consequences from this

"Let's make the people who are supposed to help the unemployed unemployed". Because that's going to make the system more efficient.

apparently no job centre staff are going to lose their jobs over this which is just as ??? as it sounds

[South Park Labourite]

It's a terrible decision, especially considering how incompetent the SNP is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -drop.html

"We'll destroy Scotland, and blame it on the SNP! "

Well no, both the Tories and SNP have messed up Scotland. The Lib Dems too, when you count the coalition. Labour is the only viable alternative for it.

EDIT: The SNP is also especially remarkable that in spite of being a Scottish-only party they essentially screwed up the entire UK by sinking Ed Miliband's chances of going to Number 10.

[The Huskar Social Union]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-38237216

well i can't see many negative consequences from this

*sigh*

Its a genius plan clearly.

[Souseiseki]

"We'll destroy Scotland, and blame it on the SNP! "

Well no, both the Tories and SNP have messed up Scotland. The Lib Dems too, when you count the coalition. Labour is the only viable alternative for it.

EDIT: The SNP is also especially remarkable that in spite of being a Scottish-only party they essentially screwed up the entire UK by sinking Ed Miliband's chances of going to Number 10.

wouldn't he have still lost if labour won every SNP seat? or is the SNP's fault for existing and scaring the english into voting tory because oh no the SN{?

[South Park Labourite]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-38237216

well i can't see many negative consequences from this

*sigh*

Its a genius plan clearly.

It is perfect. They're doing it whilst Nicola Sturgeon is busy plotting a second referendum.

Well no, both the Tories and SNP have messed up Scotland. The Lib Dems too, when you count the coalition. Labour is the only viable alternative for it.

EDIT: The SNP is also especially remarkable that in spite of being a Scottish-only party they essentially screwed up the entire UK by sinking Ed Miliband's chances of going to Number 10.

wouldn't he have still lost if labour won every SNP seat? or is the SNP's fault for existing and scaring the english into voting tory because oh no the SN{?

If you didn't have Alex Salmond screaming about how he'd have Labour by the balls, would spend a load of money we don't have (because that's going so well for Scotland with 9.7 per cent of GDP deficit) and how we'd throw Trident in a beluga whale then yes things might had been different. There were a whole host of other problems associated with the Labour campaign and Miliband, but the SNP weren't helpful.

[Philjia]

"We'll destroy Scotland, and blame it on the SNP! "

Well no, both the Tories and SNP have messed up Scotland. The Lib Dems too, when you count the coalition. Labour is the only viable alternative for it.

EDIT: The SNP is also especially remarkable that in spite of being a Scottish-only party they essentially screwed up the entire UK by sinking Ed Miliband's chances of going to Number 10.

I was suggesting that the SNP would be an easy scapegoat for the latest round of Scotland fucking by the Tories.

[Great Nepal]

Got an example?

"Go shoot that guy."

Adults are expected to have sufficient mental capacity to not blindly follow rhetoric of third party and commit violence; unless the person is preaching to deliberately, and knowingly preaching to venerable group (children, mentally ill etc) they can not be held responsible for actions of third party.

What about the "gang boss" side of things: someone who sits around ordering crimes to be done, but never actually commits them personally?

Presumably they'd be guilty of conspiracy to commit or associate; if a preacher can be convicted on same grounds sure but I doubt that's possible given they dont have specific knowledge of the crime.

So what are these complete set of behavior which are required of someone before they are British?


Did I miss the memo about Pakistan buying 10 mile of UK? Because in that case people born there would be Pakistani too; because you know Pakistani soil. If however British people moved to China, and naturalized to be Chinese citizen they'd be Chinese; regardless of if they live in a gated community of only Brits or if they live in a Chinese only village; says so right in their citizenship papers.

It's a subtle thing, but noticeable.

That's a legalistic dodge, not a cultural one. I''m not denying they have a legal right to reside here, and are legally british. Merely that they are not culturally so, and should not be called as such for census data.

British is a concept that only makes sense as a legalistic term, so is Chinese; evidenced by your inability to provide exclusive characteristics of a British person.

[Ifreann]

"Let's make the people who are supposed to help the unemployed unemployed". Because that's going to make the system more efficient.

apparently no job centre staff are going to lose their jobs over this which is just as ??? as it sounds

So...there'll be half as many job centres, but, what, they'll all have double the staff?

[Philjia]

apparently no job centre staff are going to lose their jobs over this which is just as ??? as it sounds

So...there'll be half as many job centres, but, what, they'll all have double the staff?

This implies that the job centre's work stations were only half full before...

[Ifreann]

So...there'll be half as many job centres, but, what, they'll all have double the staff?

This implies that the job centre's work stations were only half full before...

Or maybe everyone's hours are going to be halved.

[Shamhnan Insir]

So...there'll be half as many job centres, but, what, they'll all have double the staff?

This implies that the job centre's work stations were only half full before...

It'll be just like what the SNP are doing to the police in Scotland.

[Ostroeuropa]

"I'm outside bro." - The Man

"K. Brt." - Me

"I'm sorry. I have no marijuanas." - The Man

"oh." - Me Then why did you come here

"But, I have pills if you want. Sorry. I didn't realize til I got here." - The Man

"oh. This is fine. This will do." - Me He's pushing me on to harder drugs. Reeeeeeeeeee. No, but pills are good. I'll have some pills.

"Also, have a discount because I promised weed." - The Man

TFW when you're emotionally conflicted about a situation.

On the one hand, reeeeeeeeeeeee, legalize drugs to prevent this.
On the other, oh. He has better customer service and ethics than most companies, as do most of the dealers i've dealt with. Legalize drugs and soon enough they'll be maxing out profits by cutting shit with heroin or whatever.

Most of my interactions with everyday people really highlight that there's no simple solutions to societies problems.

[Frank Zipper]

A conversation with your drug dealer is an interaction with everyday people?

[Philjia]

Legalize drugs and soon enough they'll be maxing out profits by cutting shit with heroin or whatever.

Not if they've got Trading Standards going round and making sure their shit is labelled and 99.1% pure.

[Ostroeuropa]

A conversation with your drug dealer is an interaction with everyday people?

Most drug dealers are ordinary people who have decided to just start dealing drugs, so yes. For the most part, in a town like mine, drug use is accepted as just the norm for a section of the age population due to high tourism, port access, entertainment industry, etc.

Most dealers start as users and notice a gap in the market, then step up on behalf of their community in order to sell the product their peers demand, often in the process, preventing a social disruption that can cause damage to the fabric of the community such as half of them shifting to one other drug and half to another, or slow rot of socialization as everyone travels out of town to find drugs.

Worse, in my lifetime, i've seen drugs in my town shift from Marijuana (Followed by a major police crackdown) to Heroin and Cocaine (Followed by police going "Oh shit. Oh shit. Maybe we shouldn't have done that.") to Bonzai, to Ectasy, to Bonzai, to cocaine vs heroin, to marijuana, to bonzai, to marijuana.

Cracking down on the moonsugarmarijuana makes khajiit people turn to skooma. worse.

[Ostroeuropa]

Legalize drugs and soon enough they'll be maxing out profits by cutting shit with heroin or whatever.

Not if they've got Trading Standards going round and making sure their shit is labelled and 99.1% pure.

Ideally yes, and this is what I support, but i'm not confident I trust our current system to be able to resist institutional capture by corporations who would then set the regulations to benefit themselves.

[Souseiseki]

my interactions with every day people usually just end with me thinking about how they probably support fucking me over as hard as possible and how there is no real hope for any improvement or change in this country as they either don't care or are actively against me

i live a fun life

Legalize drugs and soon enough they'll be maxing out profits by cutting shit with heroin or whatever.

Not if they've got Trading Standards going round and making sure their shit is labelled and 99.1% pure.

i'm not sure if rampant lawness is the best way to ensure fair deals or the worst fair way to ensure fair deals, which is kinda funny to me

[Frank Zipper]

Wtf is bonzai?

Heroin epidemics come and go, though they usually coincide with Conservative governments.

(fucking shitty fucking BT internet piece of shit connection.... grrrrrr)

[Ostroeuropa]

my interactions with every day people usually just end with me thinking about how they probably support fucking me over as hard as possible and how there is no real hope for any improvement or change in this country as they either don't care or are actively against me

i live a fun life

Not if they've got Trading Standards going round and making sure their shit is labelled and 99.1% pure.

i'm not sure if rampant lawness is the best way to ensure fair deals or the worst fair way to ensure fair deals, which is kinda funny to me

This second bit is how I feel about it. I'm not really sure if turning over control from drug dealers to the government regulators would actually result in better drugs or just more profits.

[Vassenor]

Legalize drugs and soon enough they'll be maxing out profits by cutting shit with heroin or whatever.

Not if they've got Trading Standards going round and making sure their shit is labelled and 99.1% pure.

Hasn't heroin over about 20% purity killed people? Just a sign of how much crap street drugs are cut with if what was a safe dose is making people OD.

[Great Nepal]

Yes drug dealers are regularly considered center of the community, and bond that holds it together. True saints.

[Alvecia]

Not if they've got Trading Standards going round and making sure their shit is labelled and 99.1% pure.

Hasn't heroin over about 20% purity killed people? Just a sign of how much crap street drugs are cut with if what was a safe dose is making people OD.

Straight up 100% pure Heroin only causes dependence and constipation.
It's mostly the impurities and poor injection hygiene and the like that causes the more severe responses.