UK Politics Thread 18-inch Mark VI: Witty Title Forthcoming

[Ostroeuropa]

Well if they ever decide to resolve it, Brits have told pollsters we're totally down with it.
Interestingly, Japan is randomly included in a few schemes for UK-Canada-Australia-New Zealand stuff, so it's not unheard of.

Student programmes and such, some immigration stuff, etc.

I guess we're the closest western nations that aren't america (The white commonwealth at least.) so they're pretty close to us.

Really don't think it has anything to do with whiteness. Probably more to similar cultures and levels of economic development. They're all multiracial countries.

I didn't mean much by it beyond denoting which group of nations i'm discussing. I agree with you though.

[Souseiseki]

http://www.fwi.co.uk/news/fears-farming-uk-prepares-quit-eu-single-market.htm

i mean, this is coming up in the news again, just in case we forgot. and a bunch of irish mushroom farms have already gone out of business. i know it sounds kinda funny, "haha mushroom farms", but our supposed lies are coming.

I don't remember the one about Irish Mushroom farms. So you Kind of got that wrong.

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i'm not sure what you expected to come from this

"Europhobe."
Ridiculous.

TIL that not considering yourself European and wanting political decisions to be made in your own country means you're scared of baguettes and sauerkraut.

if i look at your post history and start look for things related to scottish independence what are the odds i'm going to fid sometihng really embarrassing about how the SNP secretely hate the english?

So i'll buy into what you're selling when you think it's fair for everyone to conistently try to demonize pro-EU factions as pro-rape, as secretly reveling in the humiliation of victims, as being motivated through evil means and emotions, and that as a consequence, pro-EU rhetoric is immediately suspect etc.

are you serious? you yourself have went on fun rants about how the elites deliberately let in immigration to fuck up the white working class. you're one step short of "let tell you about the white genocide as orchestrated by the global elites". and yes, people are accussed of letting the continent get overrun with rapists and yadda yadda constantly.

[South Park Labourite]

The unemployed mushroom people can become toads in the next Mario game.

[Souseiseki]

incidentally once we leave the EU and the ECHR under may's glorious renaissance it would be entirely legal to ban baguettes and sauerkraut, order the destruction of all existing stocks and institute strict criminal penalties up and to including death and ironic sauerboarding punishments for repeat offenders

now, i'm not saying people did vote for brexit based on the desire for a holy crusade against sauerkraut, but it is one of the benefits we can reap from taking back control

[Imperializt Russia]

incidentally once we leave the EU and the ECHR under may's glorious renaissance it would be entirely legal to ban baguettes and sauerkraut, order the destruction of all existing stocks and institute strict criminal penalties up and to including death and ironic sauerboarding punishments for repeat offenders

now, i'm not saying people did vote for brexit based on the desire for a holy crusade against sauerkraut, but it is one of the benefits we can reap from taking back control

You can prise my freshly-baked baguettes out of my cold dead hands, fascists.

[Dooom35796821595]

incidentally once we leave the EU and the ECHR under may's glorious renaissance it would be entirely legal to ban baguettes and sauerkraut, order the destruction of all existing stocks and institute strict criminal penalties up and to including death and ironic sauerboarding punishments for repeat offenders

now, i'm not saying people did vote for brexit based on the desire for a holy crusade against sauerkraut, but it is one of the benefits we can reap from taking back control

You can prise my freshly-baked baguettes out of my cold dead hands, fascists.

We can ban sauerkraut, and change history to show we invented the baguette!

[HMS Vanguard]

It's acceptable to most britons too.
Poll I showed a while back shows Brits are fine with open borders with canada, new zealand, australia, ireland, and japan.

Ireland is obviously out for technical reasons unless they remain CTA and not much changes, Japan thinks we're a creepy stalker, and the others are fine.

Germans, french, and swedes too, but that's got technical problems.

(If you poll on a nation by nation basis, you get interesting results.)

Japan has serious xenophobia problems, which is a bit of a shame as they really need migration due to the demographic crisis they might suffer.

Whatever happens they have got
The Japanese, and we have not

[Fartsniffage]

Japan has serious xenophobia problems, which is a bit of a shame as they really need migration due to the demographic crisis they might suffer.

Whatever happens they have got
The Japanese, and we have not

Eh?

[Vassenor]

Whatever happens they have got
The Japanese, and we have not

Eh?

Something about glorifying genocide, if the poem they adapted is anything to go on.

[HMS Vanguard]

Corbyn can do better if he acknowledges he was wrong about Venezuela and drops any remaining ties he has to sectarian groups, and comes up with a vaguely convincing excuse, such as "being Labour leader has given me a reality check of sorts".

If his position is "my views are foundationally wrong and I am a bad judge of policy and history" then what on earth claim does he have to even remain an MP let alone lead the country? He has nailed his colours to the wrong mast long ago which is why Labour under Corbyn is such an embarrassing clown show in the first place.

[Vassenor]

Openly being a Stalinist authoritarian hasn't done the PM much damage. Something tells me that wouldn't either.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

Openly being a Stalinist authoritarian hasn't done the PM much damage. Something tells me that wouldn't either.

Huh. I thought PM stood for Prime Minister, but I guess I must be mistaken.

[Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories]

Whatever happens they have got
The Japanese, and we have not

Eh?

Whatever happens we have got
The Maxim Gun, and they have not.

It's an extract from a poem by Hilaire Belloc. Personally my favourite one of his is:

I shoot the Hippopotamus
With bullets made of platinum,
Because if I use leaden ones
His hide is sure to flatten 'em.

Gives a rather sobering picture of Victorian Britain that the only way we could think of interacting with wild animals in a children's book is by murdering them.

[Costa Fierro]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38704325

I think this would be acceptable seeing as both are multiracial Anglosphere nations with similar rates of economic development and cultural similarity.

And where exactly is the United Kingdom going to get trade negotiators from?

[Fartsniffage]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38704325

I think this would be acceptable seeing as both are multiracial Anglosphere nations with similar rates of economic development and cultural similarity.

And where exactly is the United Kingdom going to get trade negotiators from?

New Zealand offered to lend us some shortly after the vote.

[Souseiseki]

on one hand, i don't think brexiters will really appreciate more immigration or other countries trying to twist our arm and make us do things

on the other hand it's a country they like

hmm

[Anywhere Else But Here]

And where exactly is the United Kingdom going to get trade negotiators from?

New Zealand offered to lend us some shortly after the vote.

Sounds legit.

[Costa Fierro]

And where exactly is the United Kingdom going to get trade negotiators from?

New Zealand offered to lend us some shortly after the vote.

Yeah but I'm not entirely sure that generosity would be around when it comes time for our countries to come to some sort of trade deal.

on one hand, i don't think brexiters will really appreciate more immigration or other countries trying to twist our arm and make us do things

on the other hand it's a country they like

hmm

Australia is basically any Brexiter's wet dream.

[Souseiseki]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 35091.html

"Mr Hodge said: "Government has cut our annual grant by £170m since 2010—leaving a huge gap in our budget.
"Demand for adults social care, learning disabilities and children’s services is increasing every year.
"So I regret, despite us finding £450m worth of savings from our annual budget, we have no choice but to propose this increase in council tax.""

haven't had a reminder that you can't just magically cut forever or find infinite savings in a while. i hope nobody has forgotten in that time.

[Costa Fierro]

New Zealand offered to lend us some shortly after the vote.

Sounds legit.

We did (sorta). Anyway, a free trade agreement with us would be a great trial run for the United Kingdom as it's definitely going to need a lot more future trade agreements.

[Dahon]

So I hear Nigel Farage's now a Fox News bobblehead.

What has he done?

[Dooom35796821595]

Sounds legit.

We did (sorta). Anyway, a free trade agreement with us would be a great trial run for the United Kingdom as it's definitely going to need a lot more future trade agreements.

It makes you wonder what qualifies one as a trade negotiator, and why we need to borrow them.

[Souseiseki]

We did (sorta). Anyway, a free trade agreement with us would be a great trial run for the United Kingdom as it's definitely going to need a lot more future trade agreements.

It makes you wonder what qualifies one as a trade negotiator, and why we need to borrow them.

it's hard to define, but it also makes sense when you think about it. for example, do you think you'd be in way even remotely prepared to try and negotiate a trade deal with the EU? the answer is, of course, "lol no". comparatively, the EU's top negotiators are clearly qualified. so it's a combination of experience and knowledge of regulations, i guess?

e: and we need to borrow them because we have no experienced guys vs their lots of really experienced guys

[Costa Fierro]

We did (sorta). Anyway, a free trade agreement with us would be a great trial run for the United Kingdom as it's definitely going to need a lot more future trade agreements.

It makes you wonder what qualifies one as a trade negotiator, and why we need to borrow them.

The United Kingdom doesn't have enough properly experienced trade negotiators as the EU did most of the negotiation for free trade agreements on behalf of member states. And being a trade negotiator sounds like an especially complicated and specialized job as it requires a familiarity with international relations and diplomacy, economics and a recognition of what your country and the other country wants and desires out of a future trade agreement.

Small wonder why these things are years in the making.

[Dooom35796821595]

It makes you wonder what qualifies one as a trade negotiator, and why we need to borrow them.

The United Kingdom doesn't have enough properly experienced trade negotiators as the EU did most of the negotiation for free trade agreements on behalf of member states. And being a trade negotiator sounds like an especially complicated and specialized job as it requires a familiarity with international relations and diplomacy, economics and a recognition of what your country and the other country wants and desires out of a future trade agreement.

Small wonder why these things are years in the making.

Another problem with short term politics. Why plan for the future when you can take advantage of the short term?

Also, one would think some of the EU negotiators would be British and work for us...don't know the situation on that.