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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:41 pm

New Axiom wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Because it's not like less-lethal grenades can cause fires or anything. The Iranian embassy just set itself alight.

Hey man, scorched earth policy. :p

That works best when you're Russian and utterly unwilling to give the invaders anything.

DISCLAIMER: this tactic doesn't work against the Golden Horde.


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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:45 pm

New Grestin wrote:

You know, this whole California seceding thing is starting to sound much more appealing, all things considered.


Go ahead and have a referendum if you like. See how much of the population wants it.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:46 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Someone with an ounce of perspective.


From what I've seen on NS, you sound like a liberal kid with no exposure to the world, and you shouldn't use that as an insult against other people.

Even if there's some part of that description that doesn't fit you, it's close enough that you shouldn't hold it against other people.

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Postby I didnt vote for Trump » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:47 pm

La Cosa Fedora wrote:
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Riiight. And you chose to ignore the burning car part. I'm sorry, but burning cars to keep warm is just stupid-oh wait! It wasn't to keep warm.



Now go read the rest of the article before you argue with me.

So your source only offers the word of the police that it was the protesters setting the fire, but has no evidence that those fires weren't the result of actions by the police.

Ok then.

It's very similar to the other sources stating that the police threw a grenade at protesters, but have no evidence to show those injuries weren't the result of the actions of the protesters.

Swings and roundabouts.

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Postby Sanctissima » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:49 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Someone with an ounce of perspective.


From what I've seen on NS, you sound like a liberal kid with no exposure to the world, and you shouldn't use that as an insult against other people.

Even if there's some part of that description that doesn't fit you, it's close enough that you shouldn't hold it against other people.


Merizoc is what one might call an Anarcho-Primitivist.

Basically, the run out to the hills and play hunter-gatherer type.

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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:52 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
From what I've seen on NS, you sound like a liberal kid with no exposure to the world, and you shouldn't use that as an insult against other people.

Even if there's some part of that description that doesn't fit you, it's close enough that you shouldn't hold it against other people.


Merizoc is what one might call an Anarcho-Primitivist.

Basically, the run out to the hills and play hunter-gatherer type.


I'm aware, and we should probably steer back toward the thread topic. Just as soon as I can get my rudder unstuck... Stupid thing jams all the time. :?
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Postby Tsaraine » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:53 pm

La Cosa Fedora wrote:
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Dude, either prove that it's the word of the police and not the civilian medias opinion or learn to read past preschool level and actually read the whole damn article. It clearly says near the top that the protesters set about two dozen fires. So shut the fuck up.

It seems you neglected to read your own source, which links to the article about the incident in question, clearly stating that it is according to the police.

Do you get your rocks off by telling people to learn to read while it is only you making those elementary mistakes? Or did you sustain several massive blows to the head prior to posting? Either way, embarrassing! Clearly one of us needs, as your ever so clever rebuttal put it, to "shut the fuck up". It just happens to not be me.

La Cosa Fedora, *** warning for flaming ***.

New Axiom, your prior record bumps what would be an identical warning up to a *** three-day ban for flaming ***. You are running out of rope.

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Postby Uxupox » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:03 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
New Axiom wrote:Hey man, scorched earth policy. :p

That works best when you're Russian and utterly unwilling to give the invaders anything.

DISCLAIMER: this tactic doesn't work against the Golden Horde.


The Golden Horde got destroyed completely and their successor state up to this day is the baby puppet state of China and Russia.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:28 pm

Merizoc wrote:The incident in question, water cannons being used on protesters in freezing temperatures, etc.


Oh no, not water.

I know I cant expect much from liberal kids with no exposure to the world, but come on.


And what exposure have you had? You're just as wrapped up in cotton wool as anyone else is.

Water cannons are not fucking garden hoses. They're high pressure weapons that can cause serious injury.


If used improperly or directly against an individual with full force.
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Postby The of Japan » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:33 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Merizoc wrote:The incident in question, water cannons being used on protesters in freezing temperatures, etc.


Oh no, not water.

I know I cant expect much from liberal kids with no exposure to the world, but come on.


And what exposure have you had? You're just as wrapped up in cotton wool as anyone else is.

Water cannons are not fucking garden hoses. They're high pressure weapons that can cause serious injury.


If used improperly or directly against an individual with full force.

The use of water cannons was fully justified given the unpeacefulness (to put it mildly) of the protesters
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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:33 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
New Grestin wrote:You know, this whole California seceding thing is starting to sound much more appealing, all things considered.


Go ahead and have a referendum if you like. See how much of the population wants it.

Well we know there's like 10 already.
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Postby The of Japan » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:34 pm

Galloism wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Go ahead and have a referendum if you like. See how much of the population wants it.

Well we know there's like 10 already.

All of which were failures
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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:36 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Merizoc wrote:The incident in question, water cannons being used on protesters in freezing temperatures, etc.


Oh no, not water.

I guess you aren't aware of what spraying someone with water in freezing temperatures entails.

Hint: context is important

Let me ask you a question. Your friend is being a dick, drunk, and refusing to leave your apartment. There's an open window, and you shove him out a window so he lands on his ass in the dirt. Acceptable?
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:37 pm

The of Japan wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well we know there's like 10 already.

All of which were failures

I don't know much about those ten people to know if they are failures or not. Do you? Do you talk to their disappointed mothers?
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby The of Japan » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:37 pm

Galloism wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Oh no, not water.

I guess you aren't aware of what spraying someone with water in freezing temperatures entails.

Hint: context is important

Let me ask you a question. Your friend is being a dick, drunk, and refusing to leave your apartment. There's an open window, and you shove him out a window so he lands on his ass in the dirt. Acceptable?

If he attacked you first, then yes
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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:38 pm

The of Japan wrote:
Galloism wrote:I guess you aren't aware of what spraying someone with water in freezing temperatures entails.

Hint: context is important

Let me ask you a question. Your friend is being a dick, drunk, and refusing to leave your apartment. There's an open window, and you shove him out a window so he lands on his ass in the dirt. Acceptable?

If he attacked you first, then yes

Didn't attack. Just refused to leave.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby The of Japan » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:38 pm

Galloism wrote:
The of Japan wrote:All of which were failures

I don't know much about those ten people to know if they are failures or not. Do you? Do you talk to their disappointed mothers?
Were you not talking about the ten prior referendums?
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:39 pm

Galloism wrote:I guess you aren't aware of what spraying someone with water in freezing temperatures entails.


Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Let me ask you a question. Your friend is being a dick, drunk, and refusing to leave your apartment. There's an open window, and you shove him out a window so he lands on his ass in the dirt. Acceptable?


Of course.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:39 pm

The of Japan wrote:
Galloism wrote:I don't know much about those ten people to know if they are failures or not. Do you? Do you talk to their disappointed mothers?
Were you not talking about the ten prior referendums?

No. try reading it again.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby The of Japan » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:39 pm

Galloism wrote:
The of Japan wrote:If he attacked you first, then yes

Didn't attack. Just refused to leave.

Throwing rocks is attacking
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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:39 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Galloism wrote:I guess you aren't aware of what spraying someone with water in freezing temperatures entails.


Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Let me ask you a question. Your friend is being a dick, drunk, and refusing to leave your apartment. There's an open window, and you shove him out a window so he lands on his ass in the dirt. Acceptable?


Of course.

Wrinkle: your apartment is on the 20th floor. Same answer?
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby The of Japan » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:40 pm

Galloism wrote:
The of Japan wrote:Were you not talking about the ten prior referendums?

No. try reading it again.

Your peculiar phrasing is confusing
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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:40 pm

The of Japan wrote:
Galloism wrote:No. try reading it again.

Your peculiar phrasing is confusing

Your inability to reference what I'm quoting with what I'm saying will certainly cause confusion.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby The of Japan » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:41 pm

Galloism wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.



Of course.

Wrinkle: your apartment is on the 20th floor. Same answer?

If he tries to injure you, then yes. (This example is really stupid)
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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:42 pm

The of Japan wrote:
Galloism wrote:Wrinkle: your apartment is on the 20th floor. Same answer?

If he tries to injure you, then yes. (This example is really stupid)

It isn't if you understand it.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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