Peaceful protester maimed, police grenade thrown into crowd

[New Axiom]

Again, maybe the protesters shoulda kept to protesting and not rioting and burning shit.

...I am not seeing your logic.

So you think it's okay that people are rioting? You think it's not okay Police are using appropriate methods to disperse said riot, including but not limited to stun grenades and water cannons? What would you rather use then?

[New Axiom]

He used a non-lethal mild explosive device designed to stun, not kill. OMIGAWD that level of neglect is criminal.

You won't mind if I tear your arm off then? After all, I was only looking to stun.

You imply you were doing it intentionally. The police officer had no reason to know the grenade would tear off an arm, and if you want to contradict me go find another three events in the past year where something exactly like this happened. I'm sure if they thought it was a risk the officer wouldn't have thrown the grenade. Besides, if they were peacefully protesting in the first place the grenade would have never had been thrown.

[MERIZoC]

You won't mind if I tear your arm off then? After all, I was only looking to stun.

You imply you were doing it intentionally. The police officer had no reason to know the grenade would tear off an arm, and if you want to contradict me go find another three events in the past year where something exactly like this happened. I'm sure if they thought it was a risk the officer wouldn't have thrown the grenade. Besides, if they were peacefully protesting in the first place the grenade would have never had been thrown.

Sophia Wilansky was protesting peacefully.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Someone with an ounce of perspective.

Let's look at in perspective then. A police officer accidentally injured a protester.

Has even that much been proven yet?
Last I heard, there was still some question as to the possibility of a propane-tank exploding being a potential cause of the injury...

[New Axiom]

You imply you were doing it intentionally. The police officer had no reason to know the grenade would tear off an arm, and if you want to contradict me go find another three events in the past year where something exactly like this happened. I'm sure if they thought it was a risk the officer wouldn't have thrown the grenade. Besides, if they were peacefully protesting in the first place the grenade would have never had been thrown.

Sophia Wilansky was protesting peacefully.

During a riot. How the fuck are cops supposed to pick out one peaceful protester from two hundred rioters? I'd love to see you try.

[Vassenor]

...I am not seeing your logic.

So you think it's okay that people are rioting? You think it's not okay Police are using appropriate methods to disperse said riot, including but not limited to stun grenades and water cannons? What would you rather use then?

What is your evidence this is a riot?

[MERIZoC]

Sophia Wilansky was protesting peacefully.

During a riot. How the fuck are cops supposed to pick out one peaceful protester from two hundred rioters? I'd love to see you try.

I'd love to see you learn to read.

His daughter and a handful of others were farther up on the bridge, he said, “playing around,” using pieces of plastic and wood as sleds to skid across icy sections of the highway, when an officer began firing foam or plastic bullets at her and another person.

“She was backing away as they were shooting her,” Mr. Wilansky said, adding that someone from the police lines then threw a device, which he called a grenade, that hit her in the forearm and exploded.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/24/us/dakota-pipeline-sophia-wilansky.html

[New Axiom]

So you think it's okay that people are rioting? You think it's not okay Police are using appropriate methods to disperse said riot, including but not limited to stun grenades and water cannons? What would you rather use then?

What is your evidence this is a riot?

A page or two back when I linked a CNN post that even described people burning cars.

[New Axiom]

During a riot. How the fuck are cops supposed to pick out one peaceful protester from two hundred rioters? I'd love to see you try.

I'd love to see you learn to read.

His daughter and a handful of others were farther up on the bridge, he said, “playing around,” using pieces of plastic and wood as sleds to skid across icy sections of the highway, when an officer began firing foam or plastic bullets at her and another person.

“She was backing away as they were shooting her,” Mr. Wilansky said, adding that someone from the police lines then threw a device, which he called a grenade, that hit her in the forearm and exploded.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/24/us/dakota-pipeline-sophia-wilansky.html

Again, how the fuck are cops supposed to pick out one peaceful protester from two hundred rioters? I'm definatly sure the cop was aiming for the one lady backing away, you know, cause they do it all the time.

[MERIZoC]

I'd love to see you learn to read.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/24/us/dakota-pipeline-sophia-wilansky.html

Again, how the fuck are cops supposed to pick out one peaceful protester from two hundred rioters? I'm definatly sure the cop was aiming for the one lady backing away, you know, cause they do it all the time.

There wasn't a riot, jesus christ.

[Jamzmania]

Hippies aren't very good at learning

Times are already changing brother. It's not only your fat middle class white men that are armed now.

Gun store owners told NBC News that since November 8 they're seeing up to four times as many black and minority customers — and black gun groups are reporting double the normal number of attendees at their meetings since the election.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/consume ... ns-n686881

Those aren't hippies.

[New Axiom]

Again, how the fuck are cops supposed to pick out one peaceful protester from two hundred rioters? I'm definatly sure the cop was aiming for the one lady backing away, you know, cause they do it all the time.

There wasn't a riot, jesus christ.

Source?

[New Grestin]

Once more proving that the United States' idea of policing is a sledgehammer, rather than a scalpel.

I'm seriously starting to wonder how much longer we have before the protesters start shooting back.

[Minzerland II]

Once more proving that the United States' idea of policing is a sledgehammer, rather than a scalpel.

I'm seriously starting to wonder how much longer we have before the protesters start shooting back.

They already have.

[New Grestin]

They already have.

You know, this whole California seceding thing is starting to sound much more appealing, all things considered.

[Sareva]

I'm seriously starting to wonder if people read more than the title.

[New Axiom]

They already have.

You know, this whole California seceding thing is starting to sound much more appealing, all things considered.

Right. You'd rather have a civil war rather than mild unrest.

[La Cosa Fedora]

I read that part. It does not contradict that the fires were just bonfires to keep warm.

What you said implies that the protesters were committing arson, setting people's things on fire. Your own source disagrees. Maybe it is you who should learn to read, and to write.

Riiight. And you chose to ignore the burning car part. I'm sorry, but burning cars to keep warm is just stupid-oh wait! It wasn't to keep warm.

The coalition said protesters on Sunday were trying to remove one of two vehicles -- both burned in the October 27 incident -- from the bridge when authorities started firing the rubber bullets, tear gas and water.

Now go read the rest of the article before you argue with me.

So your source only offers the word of the police that it was the protesters setting the fire, but has no evidence that those fires weren't the result of actions by the police.

Ok then.

[Vassenor]

Riiight. And you chose to ignore the burning car part. I'm sorry, but burning cars to keep warm is just stupid-oh wait! It wasn't to keep warm.



Now go read the rest of the article before you argue with me.

So your source only offers the word of the police that it was the protesters setting the fire, but has no evidence that those fires weren't the result of actions by the police.

Ok then.

Because it's not like less-lethal grenades can cause fires or anything. The Iranian embassy just set itself alight.

[Washington Resistance Army]

So your source only offers the word of the police that it was the protesters setting the fire, but has no evidence that those fires weren't the result of actions by the police.

Ok then.

Because it's not like less-lethal grenades can cause fires or anything. The Iranian embassy just set itself alight.

Seems like something the Iranians would do

[I didnt vote for Trump]

During a riot. How the fuck are cops supposed to pick out one peaceful protester from two hundred rioters? I'd love to see you try.

I'd love to see you learn to read.

His daughter and a handful of others were farther up on the bridge, he said, “playing around,” using pieces of plastic and wood as sleds to skid across icy sections of the highway, when an officer began firing foam or plastic bullets at her and another person.

“She was backing away as they were shooting her,” Mr. Wilansky said, adding that someone from the police lines then threw a device, which he called a grenade, that hit her in the forearm and exploded.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/24/us/dakota-pipeline-sophia-wilansky.html

Said Mr. Wilansky, who wasn't there but does happen to be the father of the victim.

[New Axiom]

Riiight. And you chose to ignore the burning car part. I'm sorry, but burning cars to keep warm is just stupid-oh wait! It wasn't to keep warm.



Now go read the rest of the article before you argue with me.

So your source only offers the word of the police that it was the protesters setting the fire, but has no evidence that those fires weren't the result of actions by the police.

Ok then.

Dude, either prove that it's the word of the police and not the civilian medias opinion or learn to read past preschool level and actually read the whole damn article. It clearly says near the top that the protesters set about two dozen fires. So shut the fuck up.

[New Axiom]

So your source only offers the word of the police that it was the protesters setting the fire, but has no evidence that those fires weren't the result of actions by the police.

Ok then.

Because it's not like less-lethal grenades can cause fires or anything. The Iranian embassy just set itself alight.

Hey man, scorched earth policy.

[La Cosa Fedora]

So your source only offers the word of the police that it was the protesters setting the fire, but has no evidence that those fires weren't the result of actions by the police.

Ok then.

Dude, either prove that it's the word of the police and not the civilian medias opinion or learn to read past preschool level and actually read the whole damn article. It clearly says near the top that the protesters set about two dozen fires. So shut the fuck up.

It seems you neglected to read your own source, which links to the article about the incident in question, clearly stating that it is according to the police.

Do you get your rocks off by telling people to learn to read while it is only you making those elementary mistakes? Or did you sustain several massive blows to the head prior to posting? Either way, embarrassing! Clearly one of us needs, as your ever so clever rebuttal put it, to "shut the fuck up". It just happens to not be me.

[USS Monitor]

What are you then?

Someone with an ounce of perspective.

From what I've seen on NS, you sound like a liberal kid with no exposure to the world, and you shouldn't use that as an insult against other people.

Even if there's some part of that description that doesn't fit you, it's close enough that you shouldn't hold it against other people.