Peaceful protester maimed, police grenade thrown into crowd

[New Axiom]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/21/us/dakota ... -protests/

No, I won't.

It says they are setting fires, not setting things on fire.

From your own source:

Begay said there were "peaceful bonfires" around which protesters were gathering to keep warm. The coalition alleged that other fires were grass fires ignited by flares shot by law enforcement.
"They don't need to be meeting us with Mace and rubber bullets when we are nonviolent. There is no form of aggression or violence," she said.

So you missed this part:

Protesters set a dozen fires near the bridge, police said. On Sunday night, police released a statement saying that the protesters "attempted to flank and attack the law enforcement line from the west," describing their actions as "very aggressive."

Learn to read.

[La Cosa Fedora]

It says they are setting fires, not setting things on fire.

From your own source:

So you missed this part:

Protesters set a dozen fires near the bridge, police said. On Sunday night, police released a statement saying that the protesters "attempted to flank and attack the law enforcement line from the west," describing their actions as "very aggressive."

Learn to read.

I read that part. It does not contradict that the fires were just bonfires to keep warm.

What you said implies that the protesters were committing arson, setting people's things on fire. Your own source disagrees. Maybe it is you who should learn to read, and to write.

[New Axiom]

So you missed this part:


Learn to read.

I read that part. It does not contradict that the fires were just bonfires to keep warm.

What you said implies that the protesters were committing arson, setting people's things on fire. Your own source disagrees. Maybe it is you who should learn to read, and to write.

Riiight. And you chose to ignore the burning car part. I'm sorry, but burning cars to keep warm is just stupid-oh wait! It wasn't to keep warm.

The coalition said protesters on Sunday were trying to remove one of two vehicles -- both burned in the October 27 incident -- from the bridge when authorities started firing the rubber bullets, tear gas and water.

Now go read the rest of the article before you argue with me.

[Gauthier]

If Kent State happened this day and age have to wonder how many in this thread would declare the students had it coming.

[The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia]

They have trucks... Are you implying it''s OK to shoot people with trucks?

No, but you and I both know that those are actually military vehicles. They didn't even bother to paint those things in police colours, it's just basic desert camouflage.

Oh no a lightly armored tan Humvee with no weapons! So scary.

You do know that those are good for the terrain which is why the police had them right?

[New Axiom]

They have trucks... Are you implying it''s OK to shoot people with trucks?

No, but you and I both know that those are actually military vehicles. They didn't even bother to paint those things in police colours, it's just basic desert camouflage.

Is it wrong to have a military surplus four wheel drive off road truck? Does it bother you it's in desert tan rather than black or blue, which honestly would look a little more intimidating? In fact, how do you know it's not a hummer H1, a civilian vehicle? Do you think the police are "militarized" just becuase their vehicle looks like a military truck?

[USS Monitor]

If Kent State happened this day and age have to wonder how many in this thread would declare the students had it coming.

People died at Kent State. Have any of the protesters been killed this time around?

The problem with Kent State wasn't that they broke up the protests. It's that people died because they didn't have good non-lethal tactics to minimize the risks when dispersing a crowd.

[MERIZoC]

If Kent State happened this day and age have to wonder how many in this thread would declare the students had it coming.

People died at Kent State. Have any of the protesters been killed this time around?

People here are being brutalized. Don't pretend otherwise. That nobody has been killed yet is beside the point. The authorities are acting disgustingly, and should be accordingly criticized.

[Thermodolia]

People died at Kent State. Have any of the protesters been killed this time around?

People here are being brutalized. Don't pretend otherwise. That nobody has been killed yet is beside the point. The authorities are acting disgustingly, and should be accordingly criticized.

The authorities are just treating it like any old riot, which it is at this point.
Tear gas, rubber bullets, and water canons is not brutality. Brutality would be shooting at the rioters with actual bullets, throwing frag grenades into the middle of the rioters, and driving over them all of which they aren't doing.

[Ethel mermania]

I believe incidents like having a 10-trillion dollar debt or being a socialist dictatorship constitute a failed nation, rather than this one insignificant person being injured.

What? Huh? Who's a socialist dictatorship now? I was asleep for 150 years. What'd I miss?

You also missed "the lindy"

[Costa Fierro]

People here are being brutalized.

Ooh, do enlighten us.

The authorities are acting disgustingly, and should be accordingly criticized.

You would criticize a police officer for using pepper spray in self defence. You'd criticize the police for merely existing.

[MERIZoC]

People here are being brutalized.

Ooh, do enlighten us.

The incident in question, water cannons being used on protesters in freezing temperatures, etc.

People here are being brutalized. Don't pretend otherwise. That nobody has been killed yet is beside the point. The authorities are acting disgustingly, and should be accordingly criticized.

The authorities are just treating it like any old riot, which it is at this point.
Tear gas, rubber bullets, and water canons is not brutality. Brutality would be shooting at the rioters with actual bullets, throwing frag grenades into the middle of the rioters, and driving over them all of which they aren't doing.

You have no idea what you're talking about. I know I cant expect much from liberal kids with no exposure to the world, but come on. Water cannons are not fucking garden hoses. They're high pressure weapons that can cause serious injury. Same goes for rubber bullets. But I guess you'll tell me Bull Connor wasn't brutal, or anything like that, because he didn't actually shoot people with real bullets.

[Geilinor]

Ooh, do enlighten us.

The incident in question, water cannons being used on protesters in freezing temperatures, etc.

The authorities are just treating it like any old riot, which it is at this point.
Tear gas, rubber bullets, and water canons is not brutality. Brutality would be shooting at the rioters with actual bullets, throwing frag grenades into the middle of the rioters, and driving over them all of which they aren't doing.

You have no idea what you're talking about. I know I cant expect much from liberal kids with no exposure to the world, but come on. Water cannons are not fucking garden hoses. They're high pressure weapons that can cause serious injury. Same goes for rubber bullets. But I guess you'll tell me Bull Connor wasn't brutal, or anything like that, because he didn't actually shoot people with real bullets.

What are you then?

[New Axiom]

Ooh, do enlighten us.

The incident in question, water cannons being used on protesters in freezing temperatures, etc.

The authorities are just treating it like any old riot, which it is at this point.
Tear gas, rubber bullets, and water canons is not brutality. Brutality would be shooting at the rioters with actual bullets, throwing frag grenades into the middle of the rioters, and driving over them all of which they aren't doing.

You have no idea what you're talking about. I know I cant expect much from liberal kids with no exposure to the world, but come on. Water cannons are not fucking garden hoses. They're high pressure weapons that can cause serious injury. Same goes for rubber bullets. But I guess you'll tell me Bull Connor wasn't brutal, or anything like that, because he didn't actually shoot people with real bullets.

Oh boo hoo, they got shot at with gigantor aquirt squirt guns. Maybe they shouldn't have decided to burn cars and shit, huh? But I guess that's the polices fault too.

[New Axiom]

The incident in question, water cannons being used on protesters in freezing temperatures, etc.
You have no idea what you're talking about. I know I cant expect much from liberal kids with no exposure to the world, but come on. Water cannons are not fucking garden hoses. They're high pressure weapons that can cause serious injury. Same goes for rubber bullets. But I guess you'll tell me Bull Connor wasn't brutal, or anything like that, because he didn't actually shoot people with real bullets.

What are you then?

You know that saying, takes one to know one. No offense, Thermo.

[MERIZoC]

The incident in question, water cannons being used on protesters in freezing temperatures, etc.
You have no idea what you're talking about. I know I cant expect much from liberal kids with no exposure to the world, but come on. Water cannons are not fucking garden hoses. They're high pressure weapons that can cause serious injury. Same goes for rubber bullets. But I guess you'll tell me Bull Connor wasn't brutal, or anything like that, because he didn't actually shoot people with real bullets.

What are you then?

Someone with an ounce of perspective.

[MERIZoC]

The incident in question, water cannons being used on protesters in freezing temperatures, etc.
You have no idea what you're talking about. I know I cant expect much from liberal kids with no exposure to the world, but come on. Water cannons are not fucking garden hoses. They're high pressure weapons that can cause serious injury. Same goes for rubber bullets. But I guess you'll tell me Bull Connor wasn't brutal, or anything like that, because he didn't actually shoot people with real bullets.

Oh boo hoo, they got shot at with gigantor aquirt squirt guns. Maybe they shouldn't have decided to burn cars and shit, huh? But I guess that's the polices fault too.

Maybe police shouldn't be backing up scum if they don't want cars to be burned.

[New Axiom]

What are you then?

Someone with an ounce of perspective.

Right. That's why you think the police shouldn't use appropriate force to disperse a non-peaceful riot.

[Geilinor]

What are you then?

Someone with an ounce of perspective.

Let's look at in perspective then. A police officer accidentally injured a protester.

[Vassenor]

The incident in question, water cannons being used on protesters in freezing temperatures, etc.
You have no idea what you're talking about. I know I cant expect much from liberal kids with no exposure to the world, but come on. Water cannons are not fucking garden hoses. They're high pressure weapons that can cause serious injury. Same goes for rubber bullets. But I guess you'll tell me Bull Connor wasn't brutal, or anything like that, because he didn't actually shoot people with real bullets.

Oh boo hoo, they got shot at with gigantor aquirt squirt guns. Maybe they shouldn't have decided to burn cars and shit, huh? But I guess that's the polices fault too.

Because it's not like water cannon haven't killed people in the past or anything. Oh wait.

[New Axiom]

Oh boo hoo, they got shot at with gigantor aquirt squirt guns. Maybe they shouldn't have decided to burn cars and shit, huh? But I guess that's the polices fault too.

Because it's not like water cannon haven't killed people in the past or anything. Oh wait.

Again, maybe the protesters shoulda kept to protesting and not rioting and burning shit.

[MERIZoC]

Someone with an ounce of perspective.

Let's look at in perspective then. A police officer accidentally injured a protester.

Through extreme neglect and lack of care for the safety of the protester. I rest my case.

[Vassenor]

Because it's not like water cannon haven't killed people in the past or anything. Oh wait.

Again, maybe the protesters shoulda kept to protesting and not rioting and burning shit.

...I am not seeing your logic.

[New Axiom]

Let's look at in perspective then. A police officer accidentally injured a protester.

Through extreme neglect and lack of care for the safety of the protester. I rest my case.

He used a non-lethal mild explosive device designed to stun, not kill. OMIGAWD that level of neglect is criminal.

[MERIZoC]

Through extreme neglect and lack of care for the safety of the protester. I rest my case.

He used a non-lethal mild explosive device designed to stun, not kill. OMIGAWD that level of neglect is criminal.

You won't mind if I tear your arm off then? After all, I was only looking to stun.