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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:01 am

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The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:So, the Jewess made an IED, nearly blew her own arm off with it, and then had the gall to blame it on the cops. I wish I could say I was surprised.

The fuck does that have to with anything?

Soros I guess?
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:06 am

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Bakery Hill wrote:The fuck does that have to with anything?

Soros I guess?

Suppose NSG doesn't mind a little bit of casual anti-semitism in the middle of a circle jerk.
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Postby Risottia » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:10 am

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The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:So, the Jewess made an IED, nearly blew her own arm off with it, and then had the gall to blame it on the cops. I wish I could say I was surprised.

The fuck does that have to with anything?

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:13 am

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Thermodolia wrote:Soros I guess?

Suppose NSG doesn't mind a little bit of casual anti-semitism in the middle of a circle jerk.

It's always the completely existent, international, have yet to blow its cover, Jewish conspiracy
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:17 am

The 502nd Ghost Division wrote:According to this site, she was injured by a IED and not anything that LE have access to.

Now the site may be a bit biased, but still


Query: If you admit that the site is potentially biased why are you still holding up what it says as the absolute truth? Wouldn't the next step be finding a more neutral source saying the same thing?
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Postby I didnt vote for Trump » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:49 am

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The 502nd Ghost Division wrote:According to this site, she was injured by a IED and not anything that LE have access to.

Now the site may be a bit biased, but still


Query: If you admit that the site is potentially biased why are you still holding up what it says as the absolute truth? Wouldn't the next step be finding a more neutral source saying the same thing?

Since when does "according to this site" imply he's holding this up as the absolute truth? That's quite a stretch. Further, the article on that site is certainly no more biased than any of the links which the OP has provided, which hold a quite distinct lean to the protester's turn of events.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/news/201 ... y-lose-arm
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/24/us/da ... ansky.html
http://time.com/4580721/dakota-access-p ... -wilansky/

If you want to query bias, perhaps query why the the title of this thread states that a police grenade was thrown at her despite being backed with nothing more than her word. It's quite clear the source of the explosion is up for debate.

I'm curious that with the prolific use of social media by these protesters that nobody has managed to produce a video of police using concussion grenades at or around the time of these events. I'm also curious that the medical team who claimed that fragments of the object in her were part of a grenade declined to post pictures of these fragments as proof.

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Postby Dahon » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:57 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:So, the Jewess made an IED, nearly blew her own arm off with it, and then had the gall to blame it on the cops. I wish I could say I was surprised.

The fuck does that have to with anything?


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Postby Katganistan » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:38 am

Wartaria wrote:
Nilla Wayfarers wrote:Having to hit someone with a baton to disrupt a protest is a small incident.
Holding shields to control a riot is a small incident.
Hospitalizing someone is not a small incident.

I believe incidents like having a 10-trillion dollar debt or being a socialist dictatorship constitute a failed nation, rather than this one insignificant person being injured.


Unless, of course, you are the "one insignificant person" injured.

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Postby Allet Klar Chefs » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:50 am

Maybe the injuns will properly arm up like ELZN in Mexico.

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Postby Allet Klar Chefs » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:52 am

Nilla Wayfarers wrote:
Wartaria wrote:rather "small" incidents such as this

Having to hit someone with a baton to disrupt a protest is a small incident.

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Postby Minzerland II » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:52 am

Katganistan wrote:
Wartaria wrote:I believe incidents like having a 10-trillion dollar debt or being a socialist dictatorship constitute a failed nation, rather than this one insignificant person being injured.


Unless, of course, you are the "one insignificant person" injured.

Exactly. Not all that significant.
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Postby Zakuvia » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:55 am

Well, the ACE has stated that everyone in the protest camps must evacuate or be arrested. Gotta love the tautology they're putting up around it. They're just 'protecting' the protesters from the winter cold, after all, with that occasional chance of firehose showers; you wouldn't want anyone to catch a cold!
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Postby Allet Klar Chefs » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:14 am

Minzerland II wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
Unless, of course, you are the "one insignificant person" injured.

Exactly. Not all that significant.

Maim yourself.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:32 am

The 502nd Ghost Division wrote:According to this site, she was injured by a IED and not anything that LE have access to.

Now the site may be a bit biased, but still


I could believe it tbh.
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Postby ArchMandible » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:07 am

The concern isnt unfounded. Temperatures are supposed to plunge by 20 degrees in the next two weeks, and we have multiple snow storms on the forecast already, with a much higher than average snowfall for the winter anticipated. And its only going to get colder from there on out, with temperatures dropping even further come January. Winter is not something to screw around with in the Northern states. The freezing temperatures seen so far are freezing only on the technical side, and many of the protesters from other areas are simply woefully unprepared for what is coming. November up here was incredibly mild, and significantly warmer than usual. December looks like its going to plunge us into deep winter very quickly.

Let me further enlighten you on something that happens if a blizzard hits: The police will not come and save you. Because they physically cannot. If you are caught in a blizzard in up here, you are completely on your own and nobody is coming to help you or save you. And if you are in tents, you are going to die. It is as simple as that. It is better to get people out now than face a disaster down the road.

You may think this sort of concern is unfounded. It is not. We are supposed to be both colder than normal and have more snow than normal this year. The weather we have had is nothing at all like what is coming. And trying to evacuate the camp when a major storm comes in is going to be nearly impossible. And trust me, the camp would need to be evacuated else the people there be left to fend for themselves in several feet of snow, temperatures well below freezing, and no clear idea of when aid could be provided to the camp in such an event. They could be out there for as long as a week without being able to leave at that point even if they wanted to. And the police couldn't get to them even if they wanted to. It's a disaster in the making to let people stay there.
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Postby WaRtArIa » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:17 am

Minzerland II wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
Unless, of course, you are the "one insignificant person" injured.

Exactly. Not all that significant.

I'm not that significant, really.

I don't have any impact on the economy, and I don't have any friends to hurt.

So yup, I'm an insignificant person, but not THAT particular insignificant person.

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Postby Greed and Death » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:17 am

Allet Klar Chefs wrote:Maybe the injuns will properly arm up like ELZN in Mexico.

Its worth pointing out both North and South Dakota Reservations have oil under them.
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Postby ArchMandible » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:25 am

greed and death wrote:
Allet Klar Chefs wrote:Maybe the injuns will properly arm up like ELZN in Mexico.

Its worth pointing out both North and South Dakota Reservations have oil under them.


Eh, most of the oil in North Dakota reservations at least is under the Fort Berthold reservation, which is Three-Affiliated (Mandan-Hidatsa-Arikaraa). Not only are they pretty cold on how they feel about Standing Rock in general, they are also pretty friendly towards the oil companies and oil work in general. They typically have not much issue signing off on oil permits within the reservation.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:43 am

Wartaria wrote:
Nilla Wayfarers wrote:Having to hit someone with a baton to disrupt a protest is a small incident.
Holding shields to control a riot is a small incident.
Hospitalizing someone is not a small incident.

I believe incidents like having a 10-trillion dollar debt or being a socialist dictatorship constitute a failed nation, rather than this one insignificant person being injured.


What? Huh? Who's a socialist dictatorship now? I was asleep for 150 years. What'd I miss?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:46 am

Look, before I give my input, what did the protest look like?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:47 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Look, before I give my input, what did the protest look like?


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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:48 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Wartaria wrote:I believe incidents like having a 10-trillion dollar debt or being a socialist dictatorship constitute a failed nation, rather than this one insignificant person being injured.

What? Huh? Who's a socialist dictatorship now? I was asleep for 150 years. What'd I miss?

All kinds of things, but don't let it bother you.


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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:49 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Look, before I give my input, what did the protest look like?


White woman in her 30's IIRC, Google can help you.

I was saying what the protest was like. Was it some signs? Angry marching? Was it violent?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:50 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
White woman in her 30's IIRC, Google can help you.

I was saying what the protest was like. Was it some signs? Angry marching? Was it violent?


Woops, I read "protestor".

It's been fairly violent since it started.
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