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Who do you support in the French 2017 Presidential Elections?

Marine Le Pen
396
42%
Emmanuel Macron
290
31%
François Fillon
66
7%
Benoît Hamon
52
6%
Jean-Luc Mélenchon
105
11%
Other
35
4%
 
Total votes : 944

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun May 07, 2017 5:20 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well we kinda just accept mass shootings


lol wtf? not the same at all.

there is a difference between understanding some bad people do bad things and inviting and normalizing religous terrorism on a regular basis and letting them develop entire communities of people whom support this shit.


The extreme muslim terrorists like ISIS and others have been murdering their own people, trough Sharia Law. That is what they want in Europe, that is the problem.
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Postby Kash Island » Sun May 07, 2017 5:20 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
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Yes cause bringing in untold numbers of refugees who have little respect for the local culture and operate on a entirely different type of culture is totally going to do wonders for "French culture"


Right. Cuz you know that all regugees come with the same mindframe and desire not to assimilate. Right.


They are not fleeing their countrys for a better future, they are freeing because they don't want to be killed.

This dosn't change their outlook on how life should be governed, they are still hardcore conservative Islamist.

Just because your running from something dosn't mean your not a dirtbag yourself.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sun May 07, 2017 5:20 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
No one is choosing cultural suicide. But you can keep thinking about that, if you want. It's easier than seeing the complexity of the issue.



Yes cause bringing in untold numbers of refugees who have little respect for the local culture and operate on a entirely different type of culture is totally going to do wonders for "French culture"


France has brought in a comparably low number of refugees compared to most countries in Europe. With a fractured National Assembly starting in June, I doubt many more will be let in. The migrant crisis did die down after all.

The bigger issue is actually the descendants of Moroccans and Algerians living in France.

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Postby Balican » Sun May 07, 2017 5:20 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Balican wrote:Choosing cultural suicide is commendable? If we have to be nice to them or they'll kill us, should we really be nice to them in the first place?


No one is choosing cultural suicide. But you can keep thinking about that, if you want. It's easier than seeing the complexity of the issue.

It isn't as complex of an issue as people make it out to be. It is simple choice that is causing most of Europe's governments to bend at the knee to these problems. They are approaching the point of no return, if they haven't passed it yet.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun May 07, 2017 5:21 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Right. Cuz you know that all regugees come with the same mindframe and desire not to assimilate. Right.


They are not fleeing their countrys for a better future, they are freeing because they don't want to be killed.

This dosn't change their outlook on how life should be governed, they are still hardcore conservative Islamist.

Just because your running from something dosn't mean your not a dirtbag yourself.


And you know they're all dirtbags, right?
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Postby Saiwania » Sun May 07, 2017 5:21 pm

Major-Tom wrote:But the best solution, in my opinion, is to attack the root of the cause. Many of the radical Islamists in France were born in France. Their parents were born in France. They may not even speak their 'native' tongue. But because they live in shitty social housing in the banlieues, they are often turned to radical Islam. How do we solve this? I don't know entirely, but a start is trying to start a de-ghettoization project in some suburbs and encourage intercultural living.


The parents do appear to be the root of the problem. What do the Islamists all have in common? Their families come from middle eastern or north African countries. Get rid of all of these people, and I know a better France would result. A France with a higher French majority. No Algerians, no Moroccans, etc.

It is said that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, where do you think the Islamists go to for learning about Jihad, it is the Madrassas stupid! Particularly the ones funded by Saudi Arabia. All of these places need to be shut down with the money seized and used to supplement the funding for GIGN and the other special forces France has to combat all enemies of the state.
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Postby Kash Island » Sun May 07, 2017 5:21 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
They are not fleeing their countrys for a better future, they are freeing because they don't want to be killed.

This dosn't change their outlook on how life should be governed, they are still hardcore conservative Islamist.

Just because your running from something dosn't mean your not a dirtbag yourself.


And you know they're all dirtbags, right?


Not all, but the majority are definatley hardcore Islamic conservatives

unless your really going to sit their and say they are freedom-loving classical liberals...
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 07, 2017 5:21 pm

Balican wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
No one is choosing cultural suicide. But you can keep thinking about that, if you want. It's easier than seeing the complexity of the issue.

It isn't as complex of an issue as people make it out to be. It is simple choice that is causing most of Europe's governments to bend at the knee to these problems. They are approaching the point of no return, if they haven't passed it yet.

France has brought in less refugees than most of Europe.
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Postby Zaldakki » Sun May 07, 2017 5:22 pm

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun May 07, 2017 5:22 pm

I am mostly okay with this outcome.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun May 07, 2017 5:23 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
And you know they're all dirtbags, right?


Not all, but the majority are definatley hardcore Islamic conservatives

unless your really going to sit their and say they are freedom-loving classical liberals...


And being an Islamic conservative = being a dirtbag, am I right? Your powers of deduction are outstanding.
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Postby Seradahn » Sun May 07, 2017 5:23 pm

France just hung themselves.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun May 07, 2017 5:23 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
And you know they're all dirtbags, right?


Not all, but the majority are definatley hardcore Islamic conservatives

unless your really going to sit their and say they are freedom-loving classical liberals...


I mean, they are certainly no classical liberals by any stretch of the imagination.

But they are not radically conservative like some.
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Postby Kash Island » Sun May 07, 2017 5:24 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
Not all, but the majority are definatley hardcore Islamic conservatives

unless your really going to sit their and say they are freedom-loving classical liberals...


I mean, they are certainly no classical liberals by any stretch of the imagination.

But they are not radically conservative like some.


You....understand that in the places where these people are running from it is acceptable to treat women like cattle right? You think they stopped believing that because their home got bombed?
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Postby Balican » Sun May 07, 2017 5:24 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
Not all, but the majority are definatley hardcore Islamic conservatives

unless your really going to sit their and say they are freedom-loving classical liberals...


And being an Islamic conservative = being a dirtbag, am I right? Your powers of deduction are outstanding.

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Postby New Oyashima » Sun May 07, 2017 5:25 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:6 threads on the front page of reddit about the Macron win.

Possibly because TD supported Le Pen?

You don't think Silicon Valley elites would do such a thing... do you?

There's a comments on TD with hundreds of upvotes literally calling for the nuclear destruction of France so their nuclear weapons dont fall into "Islamic hands".

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Postby Torrocca » Sun May 07, 2017 5:25 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Right. Cuz you know that all regugees come with the same mindframe and desire not to assimilate. Right.


They are not fleeing their countrys for a better future, they are freeing because they don't want to be killed.

This dosn't change their outlook on how life should be governed, they are still hardcore conservative Islamist.

Just because your running from something dosn't mean your not a dirtbag yourself.


Which is why these "dirtbags" are en masse slaughtering French citizens by the dozens day by day, clearly.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun May 07, 2017 5:26 pm

Saiwania wrote:Roughly 10 million more people voted for Macron. The job of the FN now is to really examine where these 10 million people come from and if any portion of that can be removed from voter registration. Find ways to keep them from the polls and blunt their influence. We'll get you next time France, next time!

Because when your platform sucks all you have to do is cheat right?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun May 07, 2017 5:27 pm

Saiwania wrote:Roughly 10 million more people voted for Macron. The job of the FN now is to really examine where these 10 million people come from and if any portion of that can be removed from voter registration. Find ways to keep them from the polls and blunt their influence. We'll get you next time France, next time!


You do that then
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun May 07, 2017 5:27 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
I mean, they are certainly no classical liberals by any stretch of the imagination.

But they are not radically conservative like some.


You....understand that in the places where these people are running from it is acceptable to treat women like cattle right? You think they stopped believing that because their home got bombed?


And that's different from the current crop of American Republicans, how?

I mean, if you're going to throw shit at Islam, you might as well do the same to every other conservative/traditionalist school of thought you dislike.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 07, 2017 5:27 pm

Balican wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
And being an Islamic conservative = being a dirtbag, am I right? Your powers of deduction are outstanding.

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Postby Neo Balka » Sun May 07, 2017 5:27 pm

alright alright....

France, for better or worse, choose its path for the term in a democratic and free election that has been the tradition for the French for decades.

I wish luck for the incoming President of france, and hope he can do right by his people and steer france in a better direction.

Vive la Republique and all that shit.
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Postby Kash Island » Sun May 07, 2017 5:28 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
They are not fleeing their countrys for a better future, they are freeing because they don't want to be killed.

This dosn't change their outlook on how life should be governed, they are still hardcore conservative Islamist.

Just because your running from something dosn't mean your not a dirtbag yourself.


Which is why these "dirtbags" are en masse slaughtering French citizens by the dozens day by day, clearly.


They don't need to, they are already on the path for victory. They out breed the local population and then put themselves in their own communities and invite others to come in.

They don't need to spill a drop of blood(though the ridiculous amount of terrorist attacks beg to differ)
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun May 07, 2017 5:28 pm

Balican wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
And being an Islamic conservative = being a dirtbag, am I right? Your powers of deduction are outstanding.

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Cute chart. I'm just going to assume that you measure entire groups by the actions of just a few. A disgusting tendency.
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Postby Kash Island » Sun May 07, 2017 5:29 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
You....understand that in the places where these people are running from it is acceptable to treat women like cattle right? You think they stopped believing that because their home got bombed?


And that's different from the current crop of American Republicans, how?

I mean, if you're going to throw shit at Islam, you might as well do the same to every other conservative/traditionalist school of thought you dislike.


I do the same

the problem is Islamic extremism is a FAR more serious issue and is a GLOBAL PROBLEM.
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