French presidential primaries

[Neu Leonstein]

Ugh Christ. Now what will save us from the liberal gloating. This really was a no good outcome election. Marine wins and you have to listen to the Trumpistas gloat, Macron wins and you have to hear the liberals.

Makes you miss Fillon. No one liked him.

I'm quite ok with admitting that I'm happy with the outcome. You've got a pragmatist sort of guy with a strong policy team behind him, elected with a solid majority and at least some sort of mandate to push forward reform. That at a time when the anti-reform left is badly fragmented, even the unions put more moderate people in charge and economic growth looks like it's going to improve across the eurozone in the appreciable future. If you wanted France to move to a model where more people have access to its labour market, which I do, then this is as good a set of starting conditions as one could realistically hope for.

We know roughly what he'll try to do... he put out the most detailed set of policy proposals of all the candidates. I don't think they're bad ones. The Sciences Po professor from that event I went to the other week said that when French people are asked about whether reforms were needed, a majority say yes. It's just when they're asked about reforms that might affect them in some way that they become sceptical. He thought this meant that you needed to spend time preparing and explaining any reform proposal and convince people of its merits. The labour reforms during Hollande's government were, again according to this guy, not done in this way. They were muddled up, rushed through and explained poorly.

So now it's time for Macron to show that he can do better. He'll need a good choice for PM, someone with experience who can bring together and manage as broad a coalition of reform-minded people as possible. And he himself will have his work cut out for him taking the population along with these reforms. That's not easy, and it could go wrong. Which is why gloating really isn't an appropriate response. Now the important stuff starts... all of this the last few months was just an intro.

You're delusional. It IS that serious or are you really honestly that delusional. We're screwed. We're going to become the next Sweden and Germany.

Haha, being like Sweden or Germany is now a doomsday scenario?

[Internationalist Bastard]

You're delusional. It IS that serious or are you really honestly that delusional. We're screwed. We're going to become the next Sweden and Germany.

How is being Sweden and Germany a bad thing?

Have you heard their languages?

[Individual Thought Patterns]

You're delusional. It IS that serious or are you really honestly that delusional. We're screwed. We're going to become the next Sweden and Germany.

Haha, being like Sweden or Germany is now a doomsday scenario?

It's some sort of meme where both of the countries have been destroyed by third world immigration, or something.

[Republique Galliaise]

You're delusional. It IS that serious or are you really honestly that delusional. We're screwed. We're going to become the next Sweden and Germany.

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I honestly don't see how that's a bad thing.

<br abp="689"><br abp="690">You're delusional. It IS that serious or are you really honestly that delusional. We're screwed. We're going to become the next Sweden and Germany.

<br abp="691">How is being Sweden and Germany a bad thing?

It's a bad thing because in both places there are certain areas that not even the police or anyone at all could safely go. Are you that ignorant of the situation in both countries?

I've never been more ashamed to be French. And now I also have to leave my own country in order to actually be safe, Macron's going to turn us into a third world country and there's nothing we can do about it unless we have another revolution. Anyone who says him winning is an ignorant fool, the streets of Paris are a warzone day in and day out, there's also parts of the city cordoned off by the "refugees" as their own "communities" and hell even off duty police have to still work just to keep order. My own countrymen have officially screwed us.

<br abp="655">I had no idea mortar shells, air strikes and artilley bomarments were being called daily as militiamen try to hold the line against endless counter attacks and people starve from the lack of food or medicine.

The first three aren't, but might as well be happening but yeah the fourth one is. Christ well anyway now I have to pack and get to either the UK or America. To any of my countrymen in this thread that voted for that fool. You're bigger fools than he is, great job on throwing our beautiful country to the dogs.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

How is being Sweden and Germany a bad thing?

Have you heard their languages?

Especially Sweden's. The worst I say, the worst!

[Torrocca]

Well, Macron's victory today has been quite the pleasant news to hear. May France never fall again to tyranny or fascism. Vive la France!

[Vistora]

Ugh Christ. Now what will save us from the liberal gloating. This really was a no good outcome election. Marine wins and you have to listen to the Trumpistas gloat, Macron wins and you have to hear the liberals.

Makes you miss Fillon. No one liked him.

I'm quite ok with admitting that I'm happy with the outcome. You've got a pragmatist sort of guy with a strong policy team behind him, elected with a solid majority and at least some sort of mandate to push forward reform. That at a time when the anti-reform left is badly fragmented, even the unions put more moderate people in charge and economic growth looks like it's going to improve across the eurozone in the appreciable future. If you wanted France to move to a model where more people have access to its labour market, which I do, then this is as good a set of starting conditions as one could realistically hope for.

We know roughly what he'll try to do... he put out the most detailed set of policy proposals of all the candidates. I don't think they're bad ones. The Sciences Po professor from that event I went to the other week said that when French people are asked about whether reforms were needed, a majority say yes. It's just when they're asked about reforms that might affect them in some way that they become sceptical. He thought this meant that you needed to spend time preparing and explaining any reform proposal and convince people of its merits. The labour reforms during Hollande's government were, again according to this guy, not done in this way. They were muddled up, rushed through and explained poorly.

So now it's time for Macron to show that he can do better. He'll need a good choice for PM, someone with experience who can bring together and manage as broad a coalition of reform-minded people as possible. And he himself will have his work cut out for him taking the population along with these reforms. That's not easy, and it could go wrong. Which is why gloating really isn't an appropriate response. Now the important stuff starts... all of this the last few months was just an intro.

Excellently articulated

[Divadland]

Because it just is?

A teacher having sex with his/her student always is. Especially when the age difference is so big.

Macron disgusts me.

[Neu Leonstein]

It's a bad thing because in both places there are certain areas that not even the police or anyone at all could safely go. Are you that ignorant of the situation in both countries?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It's a bad thing because in both places there are certain areas that not even the police or anyone at all could safely go. Are you that ignorant of the situation in both countries?

I am originally from a country where the government is terrorized by organized gangsters.

When Sweden and Germany's governments are seized in fear by Muslim gangsters and mafia-like organized crime, come back to me.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It's a bad thing because in both places there are certain areas that not even the police or anyone at all could safely go. Are you that ignorant of the situation in both countries?

The fearmongering is certainly strong.

[Neutraligon]

Where they student and teacher when they got together? I wonder if he where the older and she the younger would you care about the age difference?

Nope.

Then I do not see what is disgusting about it.

[Vistora]

It's a bad thing because in both places there are certain areas that not even the police or anyone at all could safely go. Are you that ignorant of the situation in both countries?

My cousin was in Berlin two weeks ago. According to him, the only thing he was ever violently assaulted by was a case of the shits after eating five currywursts in a row. Damn fool.

[Irona]

It's a bad thing because in both places there are certain areas that not even the police or anyone at all could safely go. Are you that ignorant of the situation in both countries?

You've demonstrated your own ignorance with that claim.

[Internationalist Bastard]

It's a bad thing because in both places there are certain areas that not even the police or anyone at all could safely go. Are you that ignorant of the situation in both countries?

I am originally from a country where the government is terrorized by organized gangsters.

When Sweden and Germany's governments are seized in fear by Muslim gangsters and mafia-like organized crime, come back to me.

Which country are you from, there's sadly too many like that

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It's a bad thing because in both places there are certain areas that not even the police or anyone at all could safely go. Are you that ignorant of the situation in both countries?

My cousin was in Berlin two weeks ago. According to him, the only thing he was ever violently assaulted by was a case of the shits after eating five currywursts in a row. Damn fool.

Who eats five currywursts?!

[Internationalist Bastard]

It's a bad thing because in both places there are certain areas that not even the police or anyone at all could safely go. Are you that ignorant of the situation in both countries?

My cousin was in Berlin two weeks ago. According to him, the only thing he was ever violently assaulted by was a case of the shits after eating five currywursts in a row. Damn fool.

That's his own fault

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I am originally from a country where the government is terrorized by organized gangsters.

When Sweden and Germany's governments are seized in fear by Muslim gangsters and mafia-like organized crime, come back to me.

Which country are you from, there's sadly too many like that

El Salvador. I am also Mexican from my mom's side, but if you know about the Cartels that's not any better than the other one.

[Neu Leonstein]

That's his own fault

Unless he did it to prove a point about halal food being evil by eating a lot of pork. Then it is the immigrants' fault.

[Vistora]

My cousin was in Berlin two weeks ago. According to him, the only thing he was ever violently assaulted by was a case of the shits after eating five currywursts in a row. Damn fool.

Who eats five currywursts?!

My cousin, the damn fool

That's his own fault

Unless he did it to prove a point about halal food being evil by eating a lot of pork. Then it is the immigrants' fault.

Oh man, it all comes full-circle

[Soldati Senza Confini]

That's his own fault

Unless he did it to prove a point about halal food being evil by eating a lot of pork. Then it is the immigrants' fault.

But it does prove their point that halal food is evil if you eat a lot of it

[Lonograd]

Looks like the French people got Hollande 2.0

[Internationalist Bastard]

Which country are you from, there's sadly too many like that

El Salvador. I am also Mexican from my mom's side, but if you know about the Cartels that's not any better than the other one.

Yeah those cartels of fucking monsters. I imagine it's like Mexico were they practically rule areas?

[Rio Cana]

A teacher having sex with his/her student always is. Especially when the age difference is so big.

Macron disgusts me.

If you are from France, you are stuck with him for five years. He believes in the EU. but if he goes through with putting sanctions on Poland since he does not like there politics then he might be responsible for fractioning the EU. He said he would if he were to be elected Pres..

Story - http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-france ... KKBN17T362

[The Conez Imperium]

La victoire contre la terreur !

I am pleased with this result for European stability shall continue for the foreseeable future. 10 years after this date when the dust has settled on the Brexit deal and the British people ask themselves why did they subject themselves to this pain will history illuminate the lies and fear mongering of Marine's intention to destroy the EU.