French presidential primaries

[Vistora]

Both Macron and his wife are consenting adults. What's the moral problem here?

It's disgusting.

Because it just is?

[Crockerland]

Both Macron and his wife are consenting adults. What's the moral problem here?

It's disgusting.

No, it isn't.

[Juristonia]

Both Macron and his wife are consenting adults. What's the moral problem here?

It's disgusting.

Luckily, people don't let how icky you find their consenting personal lives dictate how their countries should be run.

[Olerand]

Macron has already won with 42% of the votes counted. All I can say is: good job, France!

I don't want to seem rude, but what's here to celebrate? They elected a 39 y/o guy with 7 step-grand children a wife that's 24 (?) years older than him and was his teacher. Not a good moral poster boy for Europe, is it?

Many of the voters that voted for him have done so just to vote against Le Pen and it's not like he was an underdog in this race. He is a former banker, worked for the Rotschilds and god save us from what we are about to discover about him and his campaign from the recent leaks. It's kinda like Trump v. Clinton - neither are good. If anything we should be sad that the choice was between two bad candidates, because let's face it - neither of them are close to being great.

Who said we were electing a "moral poster boy"? This is France. Out of the 7 presidents that have already governed in the Fifth Republic, 1 was a womanizer, 1 had a secret family, 1 had been divorced twice and then divorced as president to marry a model, and 1 never married and was a serial cheater.

So, you worry about you, let us worry about us.

[Outer Sparta]

Please research how the elections work in France. The exit polls determine the winner, unless if the contest is close. Which it clearly was not.

At least French elections are way simpler than America's.

[Crockerland]

Please research how the elections work in France. The exit polls determine the winner, unless if the contest is close. Which it clearly was not.

40% of the voters determine 100% of the vote? Sounds like an oligarchy.

[Olerand]

Please research how the elections work in France. The exit polls determine the winner, unless if the contest is close. Which it clearly was not.

40% of the voters determine 100% of the vote? Sounds like an oligarchy.

What voters? They're exit polls. No votes. Exit polls.

The winner is declared at 8 pm, before the vast majority of the votes are counted. The actual tally comes later during the night, and never deviates by the exit polls by more than like a percentage point or so.

[Escalia]

Well, I'm not that excited. It could well be that Macron will just be Hollande 2.0., and given that he was the architect of Hollande's unpopular economic policy, I don't expect anything other than more of the same. There's a good chance Macron will win the battle, but lose the war.

[Aelex]

Because it just is?

A teacher having sex with his/her student always is. Especially when the age difference is so big.

[Olerand]

Well, I'm not that excited. It could well be that Macron will just be Hollande 2.0., and given that he was the architect of Hollande's unpopular economic policy, I don't expect anything other than more of the same. There's a good chance Macron will win the battle, but lose the war.

He's going to be more liberal. Or as liberal as he can with whatever parliament he's given and popular opposition to his policies.

[Vistora]

Well, I'm not that excited. It could well be that Macron will just be Hollande 2.0., and given that he was the architect of Hollande's unpopular economic policy, I don't expect anything other than more of the same. There's a good chance Macron will win the battle, but lose the war.

Macron left the Socialists precisely because his advice wasn't heeded, leading instead to Hollande's neutered economic policies.

[Calladan]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-39823865

Well there is some good news

Twitter is exploding with the happy about all this :- "France now has a reason to be condescending to America", "For the first time in a long while the French version of something has a happy ending"



I can't tell you how happy I am by all this. The idea that the far-right is being stomped down again makes me smile

Ugh Christ. Now what will save us from the liberal gloating. This really was a no good outcome election. Marine wins and you have to listen to the Trumpistas gloat, Macron wins and you have to hear the liberals.

Makes you miss Fillon. No one liked him.

(smile) I would hardly call one post with three paragraphs "gloating"

[Aelex]

No, it isn't.

So you think pedophilia isn't disgusting? Or at least that it's not a problem anymore once the kid has grew up?
Personally, I find the whole thing repulsing.

[Crockerland]

Because it just is?

A teacher having sex with his/her student always is. Especially when the age difference is so big.

No, it still isn't.

[Outer Sparta]

40% of the voters determine 100% of the vote? Sounds like an oligarchy.

What voters? They're exit polls. No votes. Exit polls.

The winner is declared at 8 pm, before the vast majority of the votes are counted. The actual tally comes later during the night, and never deviates by the exit polls by more than like a percentage point or so.

How come the exit polls usually determine the winner?

[Vistora]

Because it just is?

A teacher having sex with his/her student always is. Especially when the age difference is so big.

So yes, you're saying it just is. You've offered little in the way past tautologies thus far.

No, it isn't.

So you think pedophilia isn't disgusting? Or at least that it's not a problem anymore once the kid has grew up?
Personally, I find the whole thing repulsing.

By definition, paedophilia applies to attraction towards juvenile children. So whether or not the kid's gown up makes literally all the difference.

[Olerand]

Because it just is?

A teacher having sex with his/her student always is. Especially when the age difference is so big.

They didn't actually become a thing until he was in prépa.

He did fall in love with her when he was fifteen, but his family sent him away to Paris.

[Olerand]

What voters? They're exit polls. No votes. Exit polls.

The winner is declared at 8 pm, before the vast majority of the votes are counted. The actual tally comes later during the night, and never deviates by the exit polls by more than like a percentage point or so.

How come the exit polls usually determine the winner?

Because they come out at 8, at the end of the media blackout. The actual results can drag into the night.

[Neutraligon]

A teacher having sex with his/her student always is. Especially when the age difference is so big.

No, it still isn't.

Where they student and teacher when they got together? I wonder if he where the older and she the younger would you care about the age difference?

[Aelex]

They didn't actually become a thing until he was in prépa.

He did fall in love with her when he was fifteen, but his family sent him away to Paris.

That makes the whole thing slightly less disgusting. Slightly.

[Olerand]

Ugh Christ. Now what will save us from the liberal gloating. This really was a no good outcome election. Marine wins and you have to listen to the Trumpistas gloat, Macron wins and you have to hear the liberals.

Makes you miss Fillon. No one liked him.

(smile) I would hardly call one post with three paragraphs "gloating"

It's not you, it's what you're posting about. The Twitter liberals, the social media "good people", the NYT/Guardian columnists etc.

[New haven america]

No, it still isn't.

Where they student and teacher when they got together? I wonder if he where the older and she the younger would you care about the age difference?

Nope.

[Olerand]

They didn't actually become a thing until he was in prépa.

He did fall in love with her when he was fifteen, but his family sent him away to Paris.

That makes the whole thing slightly less disgusting. Slightly.

It's unusual, but I don't really care, as long as it wasn't illegal.

[Olerand]

Well, I'm not that excited. It could well be that Macron will just be Hollande 2.0., and given that he was the architect of Hollande's unpopular economic policy, I don't expect anything other than more of the same. There's a good chance Macron will win the battle, but lose the war.

Macron left the Socialists precisely because his advice wasn't heeded, leading instead to Hollande's neutered economic policies.

... that's one interesting way of seeing things. Especially with the loi Macron, and the loi El Khomri which he had a big hand in formulating.

He left to become president. From his first days as Hollande's economic advisor to his last day as Economy Minister, Macron was the brain behind the economic policy of this government.

Did he get everything he wanted? Of course not, due to political reasons. But was he not "heeded"? That's a stretch.

[Crockerland]

No, it isn't.

So you think pedophilia isn't disgusting? Or at least that it's not a problem anymore once the kid has grew up?
Personally, I find the whole thing repulsing.

Their relationship was never pedophilic, he was 17 by the time they got together.