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Who do you support in the French 2017 Presidential Elections?

Marine Le Pen
396
42%
Emmanuel Macron
290
31%
François Fillon
66
7%
Benoît Hamon
52
6%
Jean-Luc Mélenchon
105
11%
Other
35
4%
 
Total votes : 944

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun May 07, 2017 12:52 pm

Macron has already won with 42% of the votes counted. All I can say is: good job, France!
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun May 07, 2017 12:52 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Philjia wrote:"Liberté, égalité, fraternité" is not a fucking suggestion.


It is such a lame set of values that lacks machismo more than anything else. I want a different motto that is new and more contemporary, a hard right message to take on the problems that France faces. Something along the lines of: "One people, One nation, One leader" that is in keeping to that central theme but not identical.


How about "Reluctant hero must defeat his enemies, he has no shoes"? It's basically like yours, it doesn't have anything to do with France either.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun May 07, 2017 12:56 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Philjia wrote:"Liberté, égalité, fraternité" is not a fucking suggestion.


It is such a lame set of values that lacks machismo more than anything else. I want a different motto that is new and more contemporary, a hard right message to take on the problems that France faces. Something along the lines of: "One people, One nation, One leader" that is in keeping to that central theme but not identical.

Translating it into English doesn't make it non-Nazi.
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Postby Calladan » Sun May 07, 2017 12:58 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-39823865

Well there is some good news :)

Twitter is exploding with the happy about all this :- "France now has a reason to be condescending to America", "For the first time in a long while the French version of something has a happy ending"

This is a new democratic landscape. Today you've agreed to put your trust in me and it's a great honour and responsibility, as nothing was written in stone. I want to thank all of you from the bottom of my heart. I want to speak to all citizens now. No matter who you voted for, I do not hold anything against you. We need to deal with the economy and the moral weakness of the country.

I want to address my opponent, Mme Le Pen. I know the divisions of our nations have pushed people to extremes and I know the anger and the doubt in our country. It's my duty to listen to this. It's about organising solidarity, fighting all forms of inequality and discrimination, ensuring unity and guaranteeing the security of the nation.


I can't tell you how happy I am by all this. The idea that the far-right is being stomped down again makes me smile :)
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Postby Alozia » Sun May 07, 2017 12:59 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Macron has already won with 42% of the votes counted. All I can say is: good job, France!

I don't want to seem rude, but what's here to celebrate? They elected a 39 y/o guy with 7 step-grand children a wife that's 24 (?) years older than him and was his teacher. Not a good moral poster boy for Europe, is it?

Many of the voters that voted for him have done so just to vote against Le Pen and it's not like he was an underdog in this race. He is a former banker, worked for the Rotschilds and god save us from what we are about to discover about him and his campaign from the recent leaks. It's kinda like Trump v. Clinton - neither are good. If anything we should be sad that the choice was between two bad candidates, because let's face it - neither of them are close to being great.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun May 07, 2017 1:01 pm

Alozia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Macron has already won with 42% of the votes counted. All I can say is: good job, France!

I don't want to seem rude, but what's here to celebrate? They elected a 39 y/o guy with 7 step-grand children a wife that's 24 (?) years older than him and was his teacher. Not a good moral poster boy for Europe, is it?

Many of the voters that voted for him have done so just to vote against Le Pen and it's not like he was an underdog in this race. He is a former banker, worked for the Rotschilds and god save us from what we are about to discover about him and his campaign from the recent leaks. It's kinda like Trump v. Clinton - neither are good. If anything we should be sad that the choice was between two bad candidates, because let's face it - neither of them are close to being great.

His job is to be president of France. The people don't need to be taught morals.
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Postby Vistora » Sun May 07, 2017 1:02 pm

Alozia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Macron has already won with 42% of the votes counted. All I can say is: good job, France!

I don't want to seem rude, but what's here to celebrate? They elected a 39 y/o guy with 7 step-grand children a wife that's 24 (?) years older than him and was his teacher. Not a good moral poster boy for Europe, is it?

Many of the voters that voted for him have done so just to vote against Le Pen and it's not like he was an underdog in this race. He is a former banker, worked for the Rotschilds and god save us from what we are about to discover about him and his campaign from the recent leaks. It's kinda like Trump v. Clinton - neither are good. If anything we should be sad that the choice was between two bad candidates, because let's face it - neither of them are close to being great.


You can face all you want, but I'm fed up with having to run along with crowds who think they're such enlightened cynics by calling both candidates bad off the beat. Macron has many of the qualities I look for in a leader, so I'm prepared to, for once, celebrate, not merely breathe a sigh of relief.

I hope there are at least a few here hoping to do so as well.
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Postby Liriena » Sun May 07, 2017 1:04 pm

*relieved sigh*

Seems France can't get enough of smashing the Le Pen dynasty's presidential aspirations.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun May 07, 2017 1:06 pm

Alozia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Macron has already won with 42% of the votes counted. All I can say is: good job, France!

I don't want to seem rude, but what's here to celebrate? They elected a 39 y/o guy with 7 step-grand children a wife that's 24 (?) years older than him and was his teacher. Not a good moral poster boy for Europe, is it?

Many of the voters that voted for him have done so just to vote against Le Pen and it's not like he was an underdog in this race. He is a former banker, worked for the Rotschilds and god save us from what we are about to discover about him and his campaign from the recent leaks. It's kinda like Trump v. Clinton - neither are good. If anything we should be sad that the choice was between two bad candidates, because let's face it - neither of them are close to being great.

Le Pen's anti-EU and far-right views don't exactly resonate well to the world (unless if you're Putin or Trump). It's not like she can rule better. Macron even pointed out that she'll start a "civil war" and represents the "party of hatred."
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Alozia » Sun May 07, 2017 1:06 pm

Liriena wrote:*relieved sigh*

Seems France can't get enough of smashing the Le Pen dynasty's presidential aspirations.

They're getting closer and closer with each try. You never know
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Postby Liriena » Sun May 07, 2017 1:06 pm

Alozia wrote:I don't want to seem rude, but what's here to celebrate? They elected a 39 y/o guy with 7 step-grand children a wife that's 24 (?) years older than him and was his teacher. Not a good moral poster boy for Europe, is it?

Both Macron and his wife are consenting adults. What's the moral problem here?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun May 07, 2017 1:07 pm

Liriena wrote:*relieved sigh*

Seems France can't get enough of smashing the Le Pen dynasty's presidential aspirations.

Or just smashing up her planned dynasty that never came true.
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In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Alozia » Sun May 07, 2017 1:09 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Alozia wrote:I don't want to seem rude, but what's here to celebrate? They elected a 39 y/o guy with 7 step-grand children a wife that's 24 (?) years older than him and was his teacher. Not a good moral poster boy for Europe, is it?

Many of the voters that voted for him have done so just to vote against Le Pen and it's not like he was an underdog in this race. He is a former banker, worked for the Rotschilds and god save us from what we are about to discover about him and his campaign from the recent leaks. It's kinda like Trump v. Clinton - neither are good. If anything we should be sad that the choice was between two bad candidates, because let's face it - neither of them are close to being great.

Le Pen's anti-EU and far-right views don't exactly resonate well to the world (unless if you're Putin or Trump). It's not like she can rule better. Macron even pointed out that she'll start a "civil war" and represents the "party of hatred."

Well Macron can say whatever he wants. It's not like he was trying to take votes away from Le Pen or anything. (Scaremongering and using your political opponent as a scapegoat doesn't work well in a long run, trust me.)
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Postby Olerand » Sun May 07, 2017 1:09 pm

Vistora wrote:
Alozia wrote:I don't want to seem rude, but what's here to celebrate? They elected a 39 y/o guy with 7 step-grand children a wife that's 24 (?) years older than him and was his teacher. Not a good moral poster boy for Europe, is it?

Many of the voters that voted for him have done so just to vote against Le Pen and it's not like he was an underdog in this race. He is a former banker, worked for the Rotschilds and god save us from what we are about to discover about him and his campaign from the recent leaks. It's kinda like Trump v. Clinton - neither are good. If anything we should be sad that the choice was between two bad candidates, because let's face it - neither of them are close to being great.


You can face all you want, but I'm fed up with having to run along with crowds who think they're such enlightened cynics by calling both candidates bad off the beat. Macron has many of the qualities I look for in a leader, so I'm prepared to, for once, celebrate, not merely breathe a sigh of relief.

I hope there are at least a few here hoping to do so as well.

I'm sure there are a few.
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Postby Alozia » Sun May 07, 2017 1:10 pm

Liriena wrote:
Alozia wrote:I don't want to seem rude, but what's here to celebrate? They elected a 39 y/o guy with 7 step-grand children a wife that's 24 (?) years older than him and was his teacher. Not a good moral poster boy for Europe, is it?

Both Macron and his wife are consenting adults. What's the moral problem here?

The problem is that this relationship started when Macron wasn't an adult. It's wierd and gross in my opinion and as far as I know teacher-student relationships are not a very moral thing to do, but whatever suits you I guess.
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Postby Olerand » Sun May 07, 2017 1:10 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Macron has already won with 42% of the votes counted. All I can say is: good job, France!

He won with no percent of the vote counted. The exit polls are the usual measures of determining who won, before most of the votes can be counted by 8 pm.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun May 07, 2017 1:12 pm

Olerand wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Macron has already won with 42% of the votes counted. All I can say is: good job, France!

He won with no percent of the vote counted. The exit polls are the usual measures of determining who won, before most of the votes can be counted by 8 pm.

The exit polls were accurate, unlike the exit polls in the U.S. election.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun May 07, 2017 1:13 pm

Alozia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Le Pen's anti-EU and far-right views don't exactly resonate well to the world (unless if you're Putin or Trump). It's not like she can rule better. Macron even pointed out that she'll start a "civil war" and represents the "party of hatred."

Well Macron can say whatever he wants. It's not like he was trying to take votes away from Le Pen or anything. (Scaremongering and using your political opponent as a scapegoat doesn't work well in a long run, trust me.)

Macron represents both sides, while Le Pen only appealed to the right-wing.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Crockerland » Sun May 07, 2017 1:14 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Macron has already won with 42% of the votes counted

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Postby Olerand » Sun May 07, 2017 1:14 pm

Calladan wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-39823865

Well there is some good news :)

Twitter is exploding with the happy about all this :- "France now has a reason to be condescending to America", "For the first time in a long while the French version of something has a happy ending"

This is a new democratic landscape. Today you've agreed to put your trust in me and it's a great honour and responsibility, as nothing was written in stone. I want to thank all of you from the bottom of my heart. I want to speak to all citizens now. No matter who you voted for, I do not hold anything against you. We need to deal with the economy and the moral weakness of the country.

I want to address my opponent, Mme Le Pen. I know the divisions of our nations have pushed people to extremes and I know the anger and the doubt in our country. It's my duty to listen to this. It's about organising solidarity, fighting all forms of inequality and discrimination, ensuring unity and guaranteeing the security of the nation.


I can't tell you how happy I am by all this. The idea that the far-right is being stomped down again makes me smile :)

Ugh Christ. Now what will save us from the liberal gloating. This really was a no good outcome election. Marine wins and you have to listen to the Trumpistas gloat, Macron wins and you have to hear the liberals.

Makes you miss Fillon. No one liked him.
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Postby Aelex » Sun May 07, 2017 1:14 pm

Liriena wrote:
Alozia wrote:I don't want to seem rude, but what's here to celebrate? They elected a 39 y/o guy with 7 step-grand children a wife that's 24 (?) years older than him and was his teacher. Not a good moral poster boy for Europe, is it?

Both Macron and his wife are consenting adults. What's the moral problem here?

It's disgusting.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun May 07, 2017 1:14 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Macron has already won with 42% of the votes counted

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And I thought Dewey defeated Truman with 0% of the votes being counted.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Olerand » Sun May 07, 2017 1:15 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Macron has already won with 42% of the votes counted

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Please research how the elections work in France. The exit polls determine the winner, unless if the contest is close. Which it clearly was not.
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