French presidential primaries

[Empire of Cats]

Guys, can we get off Poland? I am like, 60 percent sure there is a thread for it. If there isn't, make one, this is no place to argue about Polish issues.

you are actually right.
dont judge me im drunk

That's going in my sig.

[Thermodolia]

Which could mean anything not just bombing.

yeah they will go door to door and shot everyone. much better.

Or ban polish products from France. Not everything is about war

[Baltenstein]

It is such a lame set of values that lacks machismo more than anything else. I want a different motto that is new and more contemporary, a hard right message to take on the problems that France faces. Something along the lines of: "One people, One nation, One leader" that is in keeping to that central theme but not identical.

OK, how would YOU respond if somebody took "One nation, under God" and twisted it? Plus, you pretty much just spat on the national honor of France by saying that it isn't macho enough.

On a sidenote, isn't there a bit of a controversy in the US that the "One nation under God" credo is actually unconstitutional because it arguably violates the First Amendment?
I've heard as much.

[Thermodolia]

It is such a lame set of values that lacks machismo more than anything else. I want a different motto that is new and more contemporary, a hard right message to take on the problems that France faces. Something along the lines of: "One people, One nation, One leader" that is in keeping to that central theme but not identical.

OK, how would YOU respond if somebody took "One nation, under God" and twisted it? Plus, you pretty much just spat on the national honor of France by saying that it isn't macho enough.

I'd love to get rid of that thing. E pluribus unum should replace it

[Proctopeo]

Viva Napoleon!

Wait, wrong year.

Well, let's hope the man that some have called "French Hillary" doesn't live up to that moniker. Like, at all. I would've preferred the Eurosceptic, to be Frank.

[Thermodolia]

OK, how would YOU respond if somebody took "One nation, under God" and twisted it? Plus, you pretty much just spat on the national honor of France by saying that it isn't macho enough.

On a sidenote, isn't there a bit of a controversy in the US that the "One nation under God" credo is actually unconstitutional because it arguably violates the First Amendment?
I've heard as much.

It should be but alas it's not. E pluribus unum should be the official one

[Empire of Cats]

OK, how would YOU respond if somebody took "One nation, under God" and twisted it? Plus, you pretty much just spat on the national honor of France by saying that it isn't macho enough.

I'd love to get rid of that thing. E pluribus unum should replace it

Just an example. I agree, though.

[Alozia]

Relax, pan. Nobody's going to to bomb Poland. You can keep bragging about what brave rebels against the EU "dictatorship" you are while at the same time demanding European funds and visa freedom for Poles.

if you think that poland gained anything thanks to europen union you are greatly mistaken. these few shekels we get from them is nothing compared to our people running away to stimulate economy of germany and other countries, while leaving country empty with screwed birthrate because these that could born children went away
not even mentonging losing our sovereignity, our laws are no longer ours, they are issued by brussel

Ayy lmao. Don't get me wrong I don't like the EU because of the whole "EU Superstate" thing, but saying that we haven't gained anything thanks to the EU is ignorant to say the least. We recieved a lot (and I mean A LOT) of money from the EU and flodded the Western market with cheap labor only because we suck at electing good people. If you want a decent eurosceptic government here in Poland with an actual policy and idea how to run a country then firstly we need to kick out PiS, Kaczyński and Co. Then stop demanding a welfare state and elect fiscal conservatives (JKM's Liberty for example). This way we can get jobs. Don't expect people to stay in a country without a job. That's why we have the "screwed birthrate" thing.

[The Novakian Empire]

OK, how would YOU respond if somebody took "One nation, under God" and twisted it? Plus, you pretty much just spat on the national honor of France by saying that it isn't macho enough.

I'd love to get rid of that thing. E pluribus unum should replace it

What about E pluribus anus?

community reference, before y'all yell at me.

[Vistora]

Viva Napoleon!

Wait, wrong year.

Well, let's hope the man that some have called "French Hillary" doesn't live up to that moniker. Like, at all. I would've preferred the Eurosceptic, to be Frank.

If we're to judge by nasty nicknames, comparisons of Le Pen to a certain toothbrush-mustachioed Teuton certainly abound.

[Alozia]

Guys, can we get off Poland? I am like, 60 percent sure there is a thread for it. If there isn't, make one, this is no place to argue about Polish issues.

To be honest I don't think there is one. I might create it but I dunno.

[Saiwania]

OK, how would YOU respond if somebody took "One nation, under God" and twisted it? Plus, you pretty much just spat on the national honor of France.

Well, the truth is that the US added this "God" silliness only to distinguish the country from the Soviets during the Cold War. The reality is that most Americans could care less about religion and only pay lip service to it because of family background or other hold overs in their lives. It is an anachronism more than anything else. It doesn't mean anything any more than being in the "land of the free" does.

There is almost nothing good about America as it currently stands, the country just gets poorer and poorer whilst the top 1% are able to hoard ever increasing amounts of money, and both political parties including Trump are in on it.

[Vistora]

On a sidenote, isn't there a bit of a controversy in the US that the "One nation under God" credo is actually unconstitutional because it arguably violates the First Amendment?
I've heard as much.

It should be but alas it's not. E pluribus unum should be the official one

Amen I concur to be honest

[Proctopeo]

Viva Napoleon!

Wait, wrong year.

Well, let's hope the man that some have called "French Hillary" doesn't live up to that moniker. Like, at all. I would've preferred the Eurosceptic, to be Frank.

If we're to judge by nasty nicknames, comparisons of Le Pen to a certain toothbrush-mustachioed Teuton certainly abound.

People compare everybody to him. It doesn't really mean much any more.

[Baltenstein]

Viva Napoleon!

Wait, wrong year.

Well, let's hope the man that some have called "French Hillary" doesn't live up to that moniker. Like, at all. I would've preferred the Eurosceptic, to be Frank.

If we're to judge by nasty nicknames, comparisons of Le Pen to a certain toothbrush-mustachioed Teuton Austrian certainly abound.

Fixed.

[Vistora]

If we're to judge by nasty nicknames, comparisons of Le Pen to a certain toothbrush-mustachioed Teuton certainly abound.

People compare everybody to him. It doesn't really mean much any more.

No, it doesn't, nor do any other facile comparisons of some politicians to others, Macron/Clinton included.

If we're to judge by nasty nicknames, comparisons of Le Pen to a certain toothbrush-mustachioed [s]Teuton[/s] Austrian certainly abound.

Fixed.

Ahh, many thanks, friend.

[Proctopeo]

People compare everybody to him. It doesn't really mean much any more.

No, it doesn't, nor do any other facile comparisons of some politicians to others, Macron/Clinton included.

Fair enough. I was merely saying that some people refer to him as such, and that it would be best if he doesn't live up to that.

[Sanctissima]

If we're to judge by nasty nicknames, comparisons of Le Pen to a certain toothbrush-mustachioed Teuton Austrian certainly abound.

Fixed.

[Luminesa]

OK, how would YOU respond if somebody took "One nation, under God" and twisted it? Plus, you pretty much just spat on the national honor of France.

Well, the truth is that the US added this "God" silliness only to distinguish the country from the Soviets during the Cold War. The reality is that most Americans could care less about religion and only pay lip service to it because of family background or other hold overs in their lives. It is an anachronism more than anything else. It doesn't mean anything any more than being in the "land of the free" does.

There is almost nothing good about America as it currently stands, the country just gets poorer and poorer whilst the top 1% are able to hoard ever increasing amounts of money, and both political parties including Trump are in on it.

Ummmm...according to a Pew Research Poll in 2014, almost 90% of America is religious.

[Thermodolia]

No, it doesn't, nor do any other facile comparisons of some politicians to others, Macron/Clinton included.

Fair enough. I was merely saying that some people refer to him as such, and that it would be best if he doesn't live up to that.

France is so left leaning that Clinton would be considered right-wing, Trump would be far right

[Luminesa]

Fair enough. I was merely saying that some people refer to him as such, and that it would be best if he doesn't live up to that.

France is so left leaning that Clinton would be considered right-wing, Trump would be far right

Trump is considered far-right already by many in America, one can only imagine what France thinks of him...gracious.

[Proctopeo]

Fair enough. I was merely saying that some people refer to him as such, and that it would be best if he doesn't live up to that.

France is so left leaning that Clinton would be considered right-wing, Trump would be far right

We need to centrist-ify Europe.

[Thermodolia]

France is so left leaning that Clinton would be considered right-wing, Trump would be far right

Trump is considered far-right already by many in America, one can only imagine what France thinks of him...gracious.

Probably a certain Austrian reincarnated

[Olivaero]

Excellent, truly excellent. I'm glad that France has stayed true to the values that have always made it such an impressive nation to me. Vive la France, Vive En Marche!

[The Novakian Empire]

Was anyone else little worried about melenchon spoiling it?