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Postby Pope Joan » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:30 pm

Banning booze did not work out well, did it?

Yet booze is involved in many social problems.

We finally decided the best way to deal with it was to have state controlled outlets which would only sell to adults (show us your card, please).

That's the solution for a lot of this stuff, including porn.

One thing I WOULD like to ban would be uninvited porn! If I go to an innocent site for, say, Indian dancing girls in traditional garb, I should not be subjected to an onslaught of pure porn with no socially redeeming value.
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Postby Belantica » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:33 pm

Dameth wrote:
Belantica wrote:Because there's nothing wrong with R34, because NO EXCEPTIONS!


The thing is, I argue for the sake of argument but really I'm not worried for a second about a possible ban on porn. I'll just make another pen name, people will still flock to those pictures and with enough mirrors you don't really care about one platform censoring your ass.

Really it's a non issue to me

I feel the same way, there really would be no ban on such a thing, because if they did, government buildings would be torched by large angry mobs. So, I believe those pics will exist until the end of time.
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Postby Dameth » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:34 pm

Belantica wrote:I feel the same way, there really would be no ban on such a thing, because if they did, government buildings would be torched by large angry mobs. So, I believe those pics will exist until the end of time.


lol yes, but millenials have short term memory it seems. Remember Hadopi? Yeah, that ban on piracy worked great. The cyberpolice truely shown its might.
Now let's tackle porn, that will work
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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:40 pm

Venerable Bede wrote:
Evodia wrote:
Say goodbye to Game of Thrones and all of HBO while you're at it.

No, they'd just have to alter the standards of their programming.


They can't. Not while remaining faithful to the source material.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:41 pm

Socialist Serbian Yugoslavia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Your god can shove it

Allahu akbar then:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFGVbkJRJV4


The same god repeated in a different language can also shove it.
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Pandeeria » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:45 pm

Pope Joan wrote:One thing I WOULD like to ban would be uninvited porn! If I go to an innocent site for, say, Indian dancing girls in traditional garb, I should not be subjected to an onslaught of pure porn with no socially redeeming value.


You're looking for Indian women dancing, yet you're disappointed when you find pornographic ads on the same site?
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Postby Evodia » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:48 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Banning booze did not work out well, did it?

Yet booze is involved in many social problems.

We finally decided the best way to deal with it was to have state controlled outlets which would only sell to adults (show us your card, please).

That's the solution for a lot of this stuff, including porn.


Yes. For the record I am not insensitive to the problems that pornography can cause, but heavy handed use of the legal system has never actually solved problems that are socio-cultural in nature.

I'd rather live in an open, pluralistic society where the production and consumption of pornography is legal among consenting adults then in which some state bureaucracy screens all of our media for salacious content, and artists and entertainers are constrained by the courts.
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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:49 pm

Evodia wrote:some state bureaucracy screens all of our media for salacious content, and artists and entertainers are constrained by the courts.


when you can't tell if people are trying to describe the worst thing they can think of or if they're trying to describe the status quo
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:51 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Sounds like you've had some experience

I, technically, have a filmography.

So does Donald Trump.

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Postby Galloism » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:59 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Banning booze did not work out well, did it?

Yet booze is involved in many social problems.

We finally decided the best way to deal with it was to have state controlled outlets which would only sell to adults (show us your card, please).

That's the solution for a lot of this stuff, including porn.

One thing I WOULD like to ban would be uninvited porn! If I go to an innocent site for, say, Indian dancing girls in traditional garb, I should not be subjected to an onslaught of pure porn with no socially redeeming value.

Socially redeeming porn ads only.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:32 pm

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The Catholic Church has said that it's fine for someone to be gay as long as they remain chaste.


Milo is very vocal about the fact he humps black guys exclusively, almost as much as he's vocal about the fact he's not an alt righter- just in case someone want their fact straights (pun not intended)

Whether he likes it or not, he's their damn messiah.
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Postby Balkenreich » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:39 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Dameth wrote:
Milo is very vocal about the fact he humps black guys exclusively, almost as much as he's vocal about the fact he's not an alt righter- just in case someone want their fact straights (pun not intended)

Whether he likes it or not, he's their damn messiah.


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Postby Dameth » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:41 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Whether he likes it or not, he's their damn messiah.


He's the messiah of a lot of people and one of my personal heroes, and I'm not alt right at all. They are retarded for the most part, Milo is simply brilliant.

I believe he says something of the like of "I'm a gay jew who won't shut up about his black boyfriends, and the press seems determined to crown me the queen of the alt right". Paraphrasing but yeah. He's not alt right, he's not even qualified to be.
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Postby Balkenreich » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:42 pm

Dameth wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Whether he likes it or not, he's their damn messiah.


He's the messiah of a lot of people and one of my personal heroes, and I'm not alt right at all. They are retarded for the most part, Milo is simply brilliant.

I believe he says something of the like of "I'm a gay jew who won't shut up about his black boyfriends, and the press seems determined to crown me the queen of the alt right". Paraphrasing but yeah. He's not alt right, he's not even qualified to be.


They love him because he pisses people off that they love pissing off.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:43 pm

Dameth wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Whether he likes it or not, he's their damn messiah.


He's the messiah of a lot of people and one of my personal heroes, and I'm not alt right at all. They are retarded for the most part, Milo is simply brilliant.

I believe he says something of the like of "I'm a gay jew who won't shut up about his black boyfriends, and the press seems determined to crown me the queen of the alt right". Paraphrasing but yeah. He's not alt right, he's not even qualified to be.

pft like the alt-right thinks anything qualifies anyone except "down with es-jews" and "fuck feminism"
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:43 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
Dameth wrote:
He's the messiah of a lot of people and one of my personal heroes, and I'm not alt right at all. They are retarded for the most part, Milo is simply brilliant.

I believe he says something of the like of "I'm a gay jew who won't shut up about his black boyfriends, and the press seems determined to crown me the queen of the alt right". Paraphrasing but yeah. He's not alt right, he's not even qualified to be.


They love him because he pisses people off that they love pissing off.

Just like with Trump.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:46 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Banning booze did not work out well, did it?

Yet booze is involved in many social problems.

We finally decided the best way to deal with it was to have state controlled outlets which would only sell to adults (show us your card, please).

That's the solution for a lot of this stuff, including porn.

One thing I WOULD like to ban would be uninvited porn! If I go to an innocent site for, say, Indian dancing girls in traditional garb, I should not be subjected to an onslaught of pure porn with no socially redeeming value.


...That was oddly specific.

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Postby Dameth » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:50 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:pft like the alt-right thinks anything qualifies anyone except "down with es-jews" and "fuck feminism"


No. The media say that but it's not the reality. I deal with the alt right quite often, and I can assure you that even if connection exists with the group I belong to (for the "fuck feminism" mostly), to them we are cucks and race traitrors.

We occasionally walk together against feminism, but we are distinct as fuck. I believe medias think this is a good and clever move to put everyone of the opponents of the status quo in the same category, but really all they do is to ally people that are not naturally enclined to work together.

So yeah in the end that's what people do and Hillary gets crushed and salt price drop.
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Postby Evodia » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:09 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Banning booze did not work out well, did it?

Yet booze is involved in many social problems.

We finally decided the best way to deal with it was to have state controlled outlets which would only sell to adults (show us your card, please).

That's the solution for a lot of this stuff, including porn.

One thing I WOULD like to ban would be uninvited porn! If I go to an innocent site for, say, Indian dancing girls in traditional garb, I should not be subjected to an onslaught of pure porn with no socially redeeming value.


...That was oddly specific.


I know, right? That's never happened to me before.

If I want to see some Indian dancing I just go to Youtube and *bam* - there you go, no porno ads in sight.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:14 pm

Evodia wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
...That was oddly specific.


I know, right? That's never happened to me before.

If I want to see some Indian dancing I just go to Youtube and *bam* - there you go, no porno ads in sight.


Well, I have adblock anyway. Browsing the internet without it is like wanting sex with a prostitute and not using a condom. :lol2:

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Postby Rastynhaven » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:24 pm

Venerable Bede wrote:
Evodia wrote:So over 20 pages in, has anyone advocating for a ban on pornography even defined what it is they are trying to ban?

Public images or videos intended to incite or indulge intense lust.


You'll take away my Shawn Mendes photoshoots and posters over my dead body.
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Postby Rastynhaven » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:30 pm

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Venerable Bede wrote:As another issue with porn, I notice more and more young males on the internet are griping about inability to find a sexual partner.

Men need to be ridiculously attractive, be in line with the latest fashion trends, need to be earning a minimum of six figures, need to be able to whip up a gourmet meal, need to have their own house, need to have several different hobbies and be well traveled just to get their number. A lot of men fall short of that.

I'm not ashamed to admit that I am one of those young men that cannot find an intimate partner but given that there's absolutely no reason for me to believe in the contrived and forced affair that is dating or that women are anything but magpies with vaginas


I just want a nice guy who doesn't reduce or compare me to a songbird with human genitals.
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Postby Evodia » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:34 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Evodia wrote:
I know, right? That's never happened to me before.

If I want to see some Indian dancing I just go to Youtube and *bam* - there you go, no porno ads in sight.


Well, I have adblock anyway. Browsing the internet without it is like wanting sex with a prostitute and not using a condom. :lol2:


very apt comparison :lol:
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Postby Galloism » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:35 pm

Evodia wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Well, I have adblock anyway. Browsing the internet without it is like wanting sex with a prostitute and not using a condom. :lol2:


very apt comparison :lol:

Last time I had sex with a woman without a condom, she was completely cured, grew back both her legs, and lived an extra 500 years.
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Postby Evodia » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:36 pm

Galloism wrote:
Evodia wrote:
very apt comparison :lol:

Last time I had sex with a woman without a condom, she was completely cured, grew back both her legs, and lived an extra 500 years.


Well you clearly have some kind of Bizarro STD thing going on
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