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Postby Kravanica » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:52 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
I did not say all inner cities nor did he, but some have casualities each year that resemble world war II battles and under what circumstance is that acceptable? The democrats sure as shit has done jack all to fix it there so this may be a blessing. The electoral college has a job, and that is, regardless of the popular vote, to hand over the states won by majority to the one who won them. The only way Trump could lose is if the electoral college did not do it's job and that's simply not going to happen. And impeached by what, a majority Republican control over all layers of government, fat chance. And is that what you'd really want? Because Pence might take over from that and then you might actually have something to worry about.

As far as the predictions go 4 years down the line, who knows, but I will frankly consider you an unreliable source at best to predict them as you seem to consider every hypothetical against Trump in chronological order and I am telling you. Your expectations will in part be betrayed.

The electoral college's job is not be a rubber stamp. It was designed to prevent someone unqualified and unfit to serve from becoming President. he did not win the popular vote. The Electoral college would not be doing their job if they allowed him to become President. Democracy and the planet depends on it.

No, it was meant to insure that smaller states and rural areas didn't get ignored.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:52 pm

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He's gonna deport you man.

Right over the wall!


If I'm both black and latino does it mean I get deported twice as fast or do I get deported twice as far?


You get shot then deported.
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Postby Settrah » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:52 pm

I think Clinton is unfit for presidency. So even if popular vote happened, I don't want her. So what about that?
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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:53 pm

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What do you think will happen first? The wall or Hillary in prison?


I guess my advice went unheeded then.

I reckon you will see some token walls and mostly some additional fences (which appears to be the line that Trump has subsequently backtracked to) along the Mexican border, instead of either option you presented me with.


The wall IS basically just a fence, which i dont see the problem with.

a wall like what most people see as well....a wall.... would be far too damn expensive
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:53 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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I did not say all inner cities nor did he, but some have casualities each year that resemble world war II battles and under what circumstance is that acceptable? The democrats sure as shit has done jack all to fix it there so this may be a blessing. The electoral college has a job, and that is, regardless of the popular vote, to hand over the states won by majority to the one who won them. The only way Trump could lose is if the electoral college did not do it's job and that's simply not going to happen. And impeached by what, a majority Republican control over all layers of government, fat chance. And is that what you'd really want? Because Pence might take over from that and then you might actually have something to worry about.

As far as the predictions go 4 years down the line, who knows, but I will frankly consider you an unreliable source at best to predict them as you seem to consider every hypothetical against Trump in chronological order and I am telling you. Your expectations will in part be betrayed.

The electoral college's job is not be a rubber stamp. It was designed to prevent someone unqualified and unfit to serve from becoming President. he did not win the popular vote. The Electoral college would not be doing their job if they allowed him to become President. Democracy and the planet depends on it.


Nah.

At this point the Electoral college has as much power to prevent Trump from becoming President as the Governor-General in Canada has the power to prevent a newly elected Prime Minister from taking office.

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Postby Eol Sha » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:53 pm

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San Lumen wrote:Lets see. A republican state legislature might make it very difficult for you to vote. They could be increased violence against non whites which has already started.


Dude, I am already in Texas and I had no problems voting this election season.

Violence could happen, yes, but so far here in Texas there hasn't been any reports about upticks, and in Dallas and other high urban areas around the state the police had been ready for a while to intervene in case of violence.

So, is there anything else that I should fear as a Latino?

I'm not Latino, but, personally, I'm worried about the DoJ not going after discriminatory voting restriction laws like it has for the past eight years.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:53 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
I'm a Latino immigrant, myself.

Can you explain to me just what kind of rights is Trump going to take away from me?

Lets see. A republican state legislature might make it very difficult for you to vote. They could be increased violence against non whites which has already started.


Very difficult for him to vote, as in, requiring ID which even bloody Norway does?

It's not very difficult to shop booze from stores is it? And, guess what, more than a few of the recent instances have been minority upon white violence and statistically, that is the way it happens for the most part when one mentions interracial violence.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:53 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The electoral college's job is not be a rubber stamp. It was designed to prevent someone unqualified and unfit to serve from becoming President. he did not win the popular vote. The Electoral college would not be doing their job if they allowed him to become President. Democracy and the planet depends on it.


Nah.

At this point the Electoral college has as much power to prevent Trump from becoming President as the Governor-General in Canada has the power to prevent a newly elected Prime Minister from taking office.

Because they are too afraid too. They would be in their rights to do so.

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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:54 pm

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San Lumen wrote:Lets see. A republican state legislature might make it very difficult for you to vote. They could be increased violence against non whites which has already started.


Very difficult for him to vote, as in, requiring ID which even bloody Norway does?

It's not very difficult to shop booze from stores is it? And, guess what, more than a few of the recent instances have been minority upon white violence and statistically, that is the way it happens for the most part when one mentions interracial violence.


getting a voter ID is honest to god easier than Voting.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:54 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Dude, I am already in Texas and I had no problems voting this election season.

Violence could happen, yes, but so far here in Texas there hasn't been any reports about upticks, and in Dallas and other high urban areas around the state the police had been ready for a while to intervene in case of violence.

So, is there anything else that I should fear as a Latino?

I'm not Latino, but, personally, I'm worried about the DoJ not going after discriminatory voting restriction laws like it has for the past eight years.


You can thank the Supreme Court gutting the Voting Rights Act for that. With Trump getting to pack the Court now, they might even deem it unConstitutional.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
I'm a Latino immigrant, myself.

Can you explain to me just what kind of rights is Trump going to take away from me?

Lets see. A republican state legislature might make it very difficult for you to vote. They could be increased violence against non whites which has already started.

Because a Republican-controlled state can't do that if a Democrat is in the White House. :roll:

And with Hillary in office, white supremacists are going to magically join hands with minorities and sing Kumbaya together. :roll:
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:54 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
Valaran wrote:
I guess my advice went unheeded then.

I reckon you will see some token walls and mostly some additional fences (which appears to be the line that Trump has subsequently backtracked to) along the Mexican border, instead of either option you presented me with.


The wall IS basically just a fence, which i dont see the problem with.

a wall like what most people see as well....a wall.... would be far too damn expensive


Honestly, when he reeled back on the whole solid wall thing to a chain link fence I was relieved.

I mean, hopefully he's more efficient than that and instead of redoing the wall only tries to finish Bush's wall project. It'd be cheaper than redoing the entire border.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:54 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Dude, I am already in Texas and I had no problems voting this election season.

Violence could happen, yes, but so far here in Texas there hasn't been any reports about upticks, and in Dallas and other high urban areas around the state the police had been ready for a while to intervene in case of violence.

So, is there anything else that I should fear as a Latino?

I'm not Latino, but, personally, I'm worried about the DoJ not going after discriminatory voting restriction laws like it has for the past eight years.

That worries me too. I worry about being a victim of a hate crime as someone who is LGBT. had this not happened i wouldn't be fearing that.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Nah.

At this point the Electoral college has as much power to prevent Trump from becoming President as the Governor-General in Canada has the power to prevent a newly elected Prime Minister from taking office.

Because they are too afraid too. They would be in their rights to do so.


There are Republicans in the electoral college too. There's no indication they lean either way.

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Postby Kravanica » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Nah.

At this point the Electoral college has as much power to prevent Trump from becoming President as the Governor-General in Canada has the power to prevent a newly elected Prime Minister from taking office.

Because they are too afraid too. They would be in their rights to do so.

It would need to be approved by Congress which would never happen.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:54 pm

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Camphuys Islands wrote:To be very honest, this is beginning to sound like a collection of crybabies who are mentally too young to vote.

As a person whose party has 'lost' the most recent election in the Netherlands, I really didn't cry, threaten suicide or destabilize the democratic process but instead just forgot about it for the next four years. This is getting redicilous if you keep trying to destroy your own country with worthless actions just because people you've pissed on for the last 8 years decided to strike back.

This petition will simply be shot down.

Its not the same as what my country just did. My very safety is now in jeopardy. The electoral college should overturn the election and if the people who voted to return to a society that no longer exists are upset i could care less. I'm not willing to see the country i used to love destroyed for people who voted out of anger instead of with their head. The Electoral College should and MUST overrun the result or its not doing its job. It WAS designed for this very purpose to prevent someone unqualified from taking office.



Your life is in jeopardy. How''s it feel to live under policies that literally couldn't care less about you or yours? Secondly, it''s counterproductive to presume why people voted, it seems to be an earmark of the American Left to presume everyone who disagrees with this is "hateful", "stupid", or "angry". Has it ever occurred to you that there are people in this world who benifit from republican ideology? Lastly, the Electoral College "MUST" do nothing. They are in no way required to entertain your selfish fantasies about overturning the election.
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Postby Ebliania » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:55 pm

Kravanica wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The electoral college's job is not be a rubber stamp. It was designed to prevent someone unqualified and unfit to serve from becoming President. he did not win the popular vote. The Electoral college would not be doing their job if they allowed him to become President. Democracy and the planet depends on it.

No, it was meant to insure that smaller states and rural areas didn't get ignored.

I think the unpledged electors are the most problematic. Just reminds me that the system was designed for something like this.

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Postby Knockturn Alley » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
I'm a Latino immigrant, myself.

Can you explain to me just what kind of rights is Trump going to take away from me?

Lets see. A republican state legislature might make it very difficult for you to vote. They could be increased violence against non whites which has already started.


he asked you for rights, you failed to mention any. Sums up your reasoning this night.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:55 pm

Settrah wrote:I think Clinton is unfit for presidency. So even if popular vote happened, I don't want her. So what about that?


Get a million or so undecideds to openly declare support for Trump and then we can talk.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:55 pm

Kravanica wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Because they are too afraid too. They would be in their rights to do so.

It would need to be approved by Congress which would never happen.

No it wouldn't. It would be doing their job.

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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:55 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
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Very difficult for him to vote, as in, requiring ID which even bloody Norway does?

It's not very difficult to shop booze from stores is it? And, guess what, more than a few of the recent instances have been minority upon white violence and statistically, that is the way it happens for the most part when one mentions interracial violence.


getting a voter ID is honest to god easier than Voting.


If you don't have to work numerous jobs and happen to live in an area where places to get ID is restricted to some backwater office that's only open a few hours a week.
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Postby Balkenreich » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:55 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
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The wall IS basically just a fence, which i dont see the problem with.

a wall like what most people see as well....a wall.... would be far too damn expensive


Honestly, when he reeled back on the whole solid wall thing to a chain link fence I was relieved.

I mean, hopefully he's more efficient than that and instead of redoing the wall only tries to finish Bush's wall project. It'd be cheaper than redoing the entire border.


Quite, random Patrols by various state national guards and border patrols should do the trick as well.

maybe drones.
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Postby Settrah » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:55 pm

Heh, middle class college kids in the city actually giving a shit about all poor communities on state outskirts, rather than just being seen to act on the ones that are nearby. Imagine.
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Postby Arlenton » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:56 pm

Nordic Saxony wrote:
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This might come as a suprise, but when it comes to the question of who is most likely to engage in a thermonuclear war, not everyone is going to fear Trump the most. The Russian Kremlin, which had warned of such if Clinton won, seem to be celebrating the outcome, which if anything lessens the chance of such an event.

This means nothing, this is apparently nothing compared to LGB rights and people's feelings.

Troo :rofl:

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:56 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
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Very difficult for him to vote, as in, requiring ID which even bloody Norway does?

It's not very difficult to shop booze from stores is it? And, guess what, more than a few of the recent instances have been minority upon white violence and statistically, that is the way it happens for the most part when one mentions interracial violence.


getting a voter ID is honest to god easier than Voting.


I mean, I am registered to vote and I made sure my name was on the records.

Even without Voter ID laws, the main reason you want to have an ID anyways is because it is inconvenient as shit to vote if you don't.
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