Hillary Clinton could still win the presidency

[San Lumen]

yeah they will all see in four years they've been duped and their jobs dont come back and they've lost healthcare and medicare and social security and the economy has collapsed from debt default and they lose their jobs and the world hates us and will have nothing to do with us and are elections are shams from the voting rights act being gutted and the Republicans will have made it impossible for them to lose. which i why i think the EC should grow a pair put country over party and stop Trump and save the people from themselves.

Yeah, first of all not all that is going to happen. Your hypberbole that grossly oversimplifies and presents a uncessarily pessimistic view is better how exactly? You are trying to do the same thing, just not nearly as well.

Just calm down. Do not buy into the emotional hyperbolic hype and try to look at things as they are, good and bad.

You'll see I'm right in four years especially on voting rights. They are afraid of changing demographics and dont care how they win as long as they do.

[East Klent]

yeah they will all see in four years they've been duped and their jobs dont come back and they've lost healthcare and medicare and social security and the economy has collapsed from debt default and they lose their jobs and the world hates us and will have nothing to do with us and are elections are shams from the voting rights act being gutted and the Republicans will have made it impossible for them to lose. which i why i think the EC should grow a pair put country over party and stop Trump and save the people from themselves.

Yeah, electing someone who will raise taxes, increase regulations, implement gun control, and expand Obamacare is the only option. Because fuck all the people who do not want these things...

There are also people who do want those things. All of America has never spoken with one voice. That's why we need compromise, that is why we have almost always compromised; the nation itself was founded upon a compromise.

Trump will have to prove his ability to compromise both sides of the political spectrum as president as they all have had to.

[San Lumen]

Yeah, electing someone who will raise taxes, increase regulations, implement gun control, and expand Obamacare is the only option. Because fuck all the people who do not want these things...

There are also people who do want those things. All of America has never spoken with one voice. That's why we need compromise, that is why we have almost always compromised; the nation itself was founded upon a compromise.

Trump will have to prove his ability to compromise both sides of the political spectrum as president as they all have had to.

he's never going to do that and why people voted for him in the first place i;ll never understand. The rest of the world is shocked and horrified by Trump's election. The country is a worldwide embarrassment. We could correct it with the electoral college but they are way to partisan to ever do it.

[East Klent]

There are also people who do want those things. All of America has never spoken with one voice. That's why we need compromise, that is why we have almost always compromised; the nation itself was founded upon a compromise.

Trump will have to prove his ability to compromise both sides of the political spectrum as president as they all have had to.

he's never going to do that and why people voted for him in the first place i;ll never understand. The rest of the world is shocked and horrified by Trump's election. The country is a worldwide embarrassment. We could correct it with the electoral college but they are way to partisan to ever do it.

Every president, no matter who they were or what they ran on, upon entering office learned the grave realities and challenges of being president and had to set some of their promises aside. Trump has already begun to show these signs after meeting with the President.

As has been stated people voted for him for a number of reasons; party loyalty, because he represented change and they didn't care what kind of change, they felt left behind and taken for granted by the Democrats, protest vote against the establishment which Hillary epitomized, and because some truly believed in him and liked him.

[East Klent]

Also, Reagan, as personable and great at oration as he was, is not really someone to idolize. It was his policies that contributed to the Great Recession and the War on Terror.

TL;DR version of history: Soviets invaded Afghanistan, we helped the Mujaheddin fight them off, then didn't follow through on our promises to help them build schools. That betrayal lead to the splintering off of Al-Qaeda who committed the 9/11 attacks. No, that does nothing to justify the monsters' egregious acts, bar none, but it may have been prevented if he had just followed through on the promise.

As for the effect of Reaganomics, just watch the film The Big Short and you have your oversimplified explanation.

That is not to criticize the man himself, as he had no way of knowing that these events would occur, merely a observation in hindsight of his policies, and of course hindsight is 20/20. He was also the right man at the right time, the right time just didn't last beyond his administration.

Reagan's my favorite president. I thought he was very successful. And I don't see the war of terror as a bad thing.

My favorite is Lincoln, arguably the most successful president. Followed by Teddy and FDR.

[Arlenton]

Yeah, electing someone who will raise taxes, increase regulations, implement gun control, and expand Obamacare is the only option. Because fuck all the people who do not want these things...

There are also people who do want those things. All of America has never spoken with one voice. That's why we need compromise, that is why we have almost always compromised; the nation itself was founded upon a compromise.

Trump will have to prove his ability to compromise both sides of the political spectrum as president as they all have had to.

That is why we have a vote on it.

And Trump only has to compromise as much as he needs to politically. Like every other president.

[Arlenton]

There are also people who do want those things. All of America has never spoken with one voice. That's why we need compromise, that is why we have almost always compromised; the nation itself was founded upon a compromise.

Trump will have to prove his ability to compromise both sides of the political spectrum as president as they all have had to.

he's never going to do that and why people voted for him in the first place i;ll never understand. The rest of the world is shocked and horrified by Trump's election. The country is a worldwide embarrassment. We could correct it with the electoral college but they are way to partisan to ever do it.

Why should we care what people in some random other country think?

[Novus America]

Yeah, first of all not all that is going to happen. Your hypberbole that grossly oversimplifies and presents a uncessarily pessimistic view is better how exactly? You are trying to do the same thing, just not nearly as well.

Just calm down. Do not buy into the emotional hyperbolic hype and try to look at things as they are, good and bad.

You'll see I'm right in four years especially on voting rights. They are afraid of changing demographics and dont care how they win as long as they do.

Well that is still speculation. Nobody can tell the future. And there are a lot of checks and balances, even assuming he wants to do all this things you said, for example he never talked about cutting Medicare or Medicaid.

[Arlenton]

Yeah, electing someone who will raise taxes, increase regulations, implement gun control, and expand Obamacare is the only option. Because fuck all the people who do not want these things...

Yeah because the heck with the environment. Humans and their needs are all that matter. and who cares if you go bankrupt from medical bills or your insurance company plays doctor?

The heck with EPA regulations. And who cares if your premiums go up because of the ACA?

You never see any other side of things. Only your side.

[East Klent]

he's never going to do that and why people voted for him in the first place i;ll never understand. The rest of the world is shocked and horrified by Trump's election. The country is a worldwide embarrassment. We could correct it with the electoral college but they are way to partisan to ever do it.

Why should we care what people in some random other country think?

Because being a global superpower, having political, economic, and military ties throughout the world we have to work with other countries. The amount they cooperate is predicated upon how much they respect us and/or agree with our policies. If the President, who is also our most senior diplomat, is seen by the world as a laughing stock, we can't very well get much done in foreign affairs, now can we?

[East Klent]

There are also people who do want those things. All of America has never spoken with one voice. That's why we need compromise, that is why we have almost always compromised; the nation itself was founded upon a compromise.

Trump will have to prove his ability to compromise both sides of the political spectrum as president as they all have had to.

That is why we have a vote on it.

And Trump only has to compromise as much as he needs to politically. Like every other president.

We don't vote on a great many of those issues. We vote for the people who decide those issues. Currently the majority supported his opponent, therefore he has no mandate and very little political capital, and influential detractors within his own party.

He will have to do a great deal of compromising.

[Arlenton]

Why should we care what people in some random other country think?

Because being a global superpower, having political, economic, and military ties we have to work with other countries. The amount they cooperate is predicated upon how much they respect us and/or agree with our policies. If the President, who is also our most senior diplomat, is seen by the world as a laughing stock, we can't very well get much done in foreign affairs, now can we?

If they don't like us, screw them. If they cut themselves off, they will have much more to lose.

[San Lumen]

Yeah because the heck with the environment. Humans and their needs are all that matter. and who cares if you go bankrupt from medical bills or your insurance company plays doctor?

The heck with EPA regulations. And who cares if your premiums go up because of the ACA?

You never see any other side of things. Only your side.

So destroying the environment and polluting the air and water doesnt matter to you? Lets just wreck this planet. We have another. And people going bankrupt from medical bills is perfectly ok to you?

[Arlenton]

That is why we have a vote on it.

And Trump only has to compromise as much as he needs to politically. Like every other president.

We don't vote on a great many of those issues. We vote for the people who decide those issues. Currently the majority supported his opponent, therefore he has no mandate and very little political capital, and influential detractors within his own party.

He will have to do a great deal of compromising.

Not until the opposition's party is able to start blocking him.

[San Lumen]

Because being a global superpower, having political, economic, and military ties we have to work with other countries. The amount they cooperate is predicated upon how much they respect us and/or agree with our policies. If the President, who is also our most senior diplomat, is seen by the world as a laughing stock, we can't very well get much done in foreign affairs, now can we?

If they don't like us, screw them. If they cut themselves off, they will have much more to lose.

Actually they will move on without us. Id like to see the world punish us for being so stupid to elect Trump. I like to see him disinvited to international summits.

[Arlenton]

The heck with EPA regulations. And who cares if your premiums go up because of the ACA?

You never see any other side of things. Only your side.

So destroying the environment and polluting the air and water doesnt matter to you? Lets just wreck this planet. We have another. And people going bankrupt from medical bills is perfectly ok to you?

I don't think de-regulating fossil fuels will destroy the planet, sure climate change exists, but we aren't going to be using non-renewable resources forever. How about adding positive incentives to go green instead of taxing and regulating? And people having to pay more for health insurance is not ok with me. Neither is increasing taxes for a single payer program.

So yeah, fuck me and the people who think like me right? The EC should just ignore us because we're too stupid or racist or whatever...

[Arlenton]

If they don't like us, screw them. If they cut themselves off, they will have much more to lose.

Actually they will move on without us. Id like to see the world punish us for being so stupid to elect Trump. I like to see him disinvited to international summits.

Then good luck to them when we pull out of NATO.

[East Klent]

Because being a global superpower, having political, economic, and military ties we have to work with other countries. The amount they cooperate is predicated upon how much they respect us and/or agree with our policies. If the President, who is also our most senior diplomat, is seen by the world as a laughing stock, we can't very well get much done in foreign affairs, now can we?

If they don't like us, screw them. If they cut themselves off, they will have much more to lose.

We depend upon others as much as they depend upon us, ever hear of the term "Made in China". Isolationism has never and will never work. We are part of the global economy, part of the United Nations and part of NATO; what is bad for the rest of the world is bad for us.

With tensions between us and China rising, and if things with Russia heat up again, we need our allies more than ever, so yes it does matter what other nations think of us and it is dangerously arrogant to assume otherwise.

We don't vote on a great many of those issues. We vote for the people who decide those issues. Currently the majority supported his opponent, therefore he has no mandate and very little political capital, and influential detractors within his own party.

He will have to do a great deal of compromising.

Not until the opposition's party is able to start blocking him.

In the Senate, which is the body that confirms his appointments who then roll out much of his policy, has a very slim Republican majority, 52-48, and many high profile Senate republicans - McCain, Graham, Rubio, and Paul for instance - have come out against some of his appointments. That's not to say the Dems will vote with one mind, but it'll definitely be an uphill battle for him.

[East Klent]

Actually they will move on without us. Id like to see the world punish us for being so stupid to elect Trump. I like to see him disinvited to international summits.

Then good luck to them when we pull out of NATO.

That is never going to happen, and he knows it.

[Galloism]

Actually they will move on without us. Id like to see the world punish us for being so stupid to elect Trump. I like to see him disinvited to international summits.

Then good luck to them when we pull out of NATO.

And there goes world war 3.

Will you two stop trying to get us into a global war? An idiot has been elected president. We will survive, provided people don't flip the fuck out and get all the mutual protection pacts and so forth nullified so that aggressive nations feel free to expand their territory and start a global conflict.

[Arlenton]

If they don't like us, screw them. If they cut themselves off, they will have much more to lose.

We depend upon others as much as they depend upon us, ever hear of the term "Made in China". Isolationism has never and will never work. We are part of the global economy, part of the United Nations and part of NATO; what is bad for the rest of the world is bad for us.

With tensions between us and China rising, and if things with Russia heat up again, we need our allies more than ever, so yes it does matter what other nations think of us and it is dangerously arrogant to assume otherwise.

Not until the opposition's party is able to start blocking him.

In the Senate, which is the body that confirms his appointments who then roll out much of his policy, has a very slim Republican majority, 52-48, and many high profile Senate republicans - McCain, Graham, Rubio, and Paul for instance - have come out against some of his appointments. That's not to say the Dems will vote with one mind, but it'll definitely be an uphill battle for him.

He will have to compromise when it is necessary. If people in his own party block him, then he would have to.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

As much as I would like to think this could come true, I highly doubt Hillary will be POTUS. I think the Trump win will stick, that the electoral college will change nothing come Dec. 19th.

[East Klent]

If they don't like us, screw them. If they cut themselves off, they will have much more to lose.

Actually they will move on without us. Id like to see the world punish us for being so stupid to elect Trump. I like to see him disinvited to international summits.

They can't move on without us. In the globally interconnected world we live in today, we actually all do depend on each other. And the term is uninvited.

[Arlenton]

Then good luck to them when we pull out of NATO.

That is never going to happen, and he knows it.

Just like countries punishing the US is not going to happen.

[East Klent]

We depend upon others as much as they depend upon us, ever hear of the term "Made in China". Isolationism has never and will never work. We are part of the global economy, part of the United Nations and part of NATO; what is bad for the rest of the world is bad for us.

With tensions between us and China rising, and if things with Russia heat up again, we need our allies more than ever, so yes it does matter what other nations think of us and it is dangerously arrogant to assume otherwise.



In the Senate, which is the body that confirms his appointments who then roll out much of his policy, has a very slim Republican majority, 52-48, and many high profile Senate republicans - McCain, Graham, Rubio, and Paul for instance - have come out against some of his appointments. That's not to say the Dems will vote with one mind, but it'll definitely be an uphill battle for him.

He will have to compromise when it is necessary. If people in his own party block him, then he would have to.

Yes, I know, that is my point.