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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:22 pm

Sassanidia wrote:
Cymrea wrote:I dunno...it's funny til there's real damage done. *sigh*

"Hillary and her campaign made stupid mistakes because of their arrogance"
"YEAH WELL DONALD TRUMP IS A DICTATOR!"

I'll admit it's refreshing to see him compared to a dictator that ISN'T Hitler, but that doesnt mean it has any more substance.


I'm not saying he is a dictator. But he is worrying me by demanding to see the names of those who work on climate change and appointing crazy people to offices.

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Postby Cymrea » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:23 pm

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Galloism wrote:But remember, Hillary was the pragmatic choice because Bernie can't win.


Apparently she pragmaticked herself right in to a loss.

She should have run on fear and hatred. Seems to work well enough.
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:24 pm

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Paddy O Fernature wrote:
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:rofl: Oh my god, that is gold. Bless her little heart. :rofl:

You from the South? ;)
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:24 pm

Cymrea wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Apparently she pragmaticked herself right in to a loss.

She should have run on fear and hatred. Seems to work well enough.

She certainly ran on fear of Trump. Didn't work out.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:24 pm

Galloism wrote:
Corrian wrote:Too bad we had an incompetent campaigner, because it was a really shitty time to have one.

But remember, Hillary was the pragmatic choice because Bernie can't win.

Honestly, this incompetent campaigning is making me think Bernie could have won again. Because at least he actually freaking seemed to try to get the rust belt.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:26 pm

Cymrea wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Apparently she pragmaticked herself right in to a loss.

She should have run on fear and hatred. Seems to work well enough.


Haha, you mean she didn't run on fear of evil conservatives and hatred of everyone who wasn't a coffee drinking liberal or privilege-deserving minority?

The Universe Bank called. Your reality check bounced.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:27 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Cymrea wrote:She should have run on fear and hatred. Seems to work well enough.

She certainly ran on fear of Trump. Didn't work out.


Considering that I literally couldn't watch a single commercial segment without a "Trump is a bigoted devil!" smear ad for almost a month straight, I'd even go so far as to say that the tactic might have even backfired on her as I'm sure I wasn't the only person tired of the sheer volume of hate coming from her camp.

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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:27 pm

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Maybe Wasserman-Schultz shouldve thought of that.

At this point it's kicking a half-dead dog that was also just run over by a truck, but news reports indicate that both DWS and the Clinton campaign were incredibly controlling. Birds of a feather and all that. ;)

I'm feeling less sad they lost. I hate we have Trump, but Jesus, this is what they get for their arrogance.
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Postby Sassanidia » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:27 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Sassanidia wrote:"Hillary and her campaign made stupid mistakes because of their arrogance"
"YEAH WELL DONALD TRUMP IS A DICTATOR!"

I'll admit it's refreshing to see him compared to a dictator that ISN'T Hitler, but that doesnt mean it has any more substance.


I'm not saying he is a dictator. But he is worrying me by demanding to see the names of those who work on climate change and appointing crazy people to offices.

You dont think he'd want to see those names so he'd know who to talk to about it? I mean he held a private meeting with Al Gore and Leonardo Dicaprio in Trump tower a week ago to discuss climate change- do you think he tried to convert them or tried to end their careers? No. He appointed Rick Perry to the EPA because Rick Perry understood even in 2012 (even if he couldnt name it) that it needed to be restructured, and as Governor of Texas the Environmental Industry in Texas saw massive growth, which is important for the survival of the practical use of green technology.

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Postby Cymrea » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:28 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Sassanidia wrote:"Hillary and her campaign made stupid mistakes because of their arrogance"
"YEAH WELL DONALD TRUMP IS A DICTATOR!"

I'll admit it's refreshing to see him compared to a dictator that ISN'T Hitler, but that doesnt mean it has any more substance.


I'm not saying he is a dictator. But he is worrying me by demanding to see the names of those who work on climate change and appointing crazy people to offices.

Declaring all news that criticises him as "fake" and installing his own personal sources is certainly reminiscent of dictatorial moves. And appointing people to posts they oppose is only going to do damage.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:29 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:She certainly ran on fear of Trump. Didn't work out.


Considering that I literally couldn't watch a single commercial segment without a "Trump is a bigoted devil!" smear ad for almost a month straight, I'd even go so far as to say that the tactic might have even backfired on her as I'm sure I wasn't the only person tired of the sheer volume of hate coming from her camp.

It is kinda funny though that you were "tired of her sheer volume of hate" than voted Trump.

At least I think the Bernie campaign would have let back on the damn hate attacks.
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Postby East Klent » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:29 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
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:rofl: Oh my god, that is gold. Bless her little heart. :rofl:

Meanwhile, we also have people losing their shit over a Starbucks cup and "finally" being able to say Merry Christmas again, as if it were banned or something.

There are blowhards and idiots on both sides. Also, cases such as her's arise when you convince your supporters that your opponent can bring an end to all societal progress over the last 50 years, as if that were possible.
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:30 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:She certainly ran on fear of Trump. Didn't work out.


Considering that I literally couldn't watch a single commercial segment without a "Trump is a bigoted devil!" smear ad for almost a month straight, I'd even go so far as to say that the tactic might have even backfired on her as I'm sure I wasn't the only person tired of the sheer volume of hate coming from her camp.

Where do you live? I didn't see too many campaign commercials since I don't live in the part of Georgia that is "we can use this place to swing Georgia". I.e., in and around Atlanta.

Yeah. Her campaign was extraordinarily negative. She wasn't arguing for much.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:30 pm

Corrian wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Considering that I literally couldn't watch a single commercial segment without a "Trump is a bigoted devil!" smear ad for almost a month straight, I'd even go so far as to say that the tactic might have even backfired on her as I'm sure I wasn't the only person tired of the sheer volume of hate coming from her camp.

It is kinda funny though that you were "tired of her sheer volume of hate" than voted Trump.

At least I think the Bernie campaign would have let back on the damn hate attacks.


What can I say, hate is a universal thing.

;)

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Postby Galloism » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:31 pm

East Klent wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote: :rofl: Oh my god, that is gold. Bless her little heart. :rofl:

Meanwhile, we also have people losing their shit over a Starbucks cup and "finally" being able to say Merry Christmas again, as if it were banned or something.

There are blowhards and idiots on both sides. Also, cases such as her's arise when you convince your supporters that your opponent can bring an end to all societal progress over the last 50 years, as if that were possible.

First, I'm 100% positive that that's fake anyway. Emergency personnel don't record things that way. It's not in their nature.

Second, they have a pile of sad college students in safe space in triage? Bullshit.

It's a funny joke, ladies and gents. Let it go.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:32 pm

East Klent wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote: :rofl: Oh my god, that is gold. Bless her little heart. :rofl:

Meanwhile, we also have people losing their shit over a Starbucks cup and "finally" being able to say Merry Christmas again, as if it were banned or something.

There are blowhards and idiots on both sides. Also, cases such as her's arise when you convince your supporters that your opponent can bring an end to all societal progress over the last 50 years, as if that were possible.


You do know the Starbucks thing is entirely a manufactured hysteria, yes? I mean, damnation, Cracked even just ran an article about how it was fake. And they're officially a dick joke website.

Nobody cares what Starbucks does with its cups. It's literally just a circle jerk about "those dumb Christians getting ruled up about nothing again".
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Postby East Klent » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:32 pm

Sassanidia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
I'm not saying he is a dictator. But he is worrying me by demanding to see the names of those who work on climate change and appointing crazy people to offices.

You dont think he'd want to see those names so he'd know who to talk to about it? I mean he held a private meeting with Al Gore and Leonardo Dicaprio in Trump tower a week ago to discuss climate change- do you think he tried to convert them or tried to end their careers? No. He appointed Rick Perry to the EPA because Rick Perry understood even in 2012 (even if he couldnt name it) that it needed to be restructured, and as Governor of Texas the Environmental Industry in Texas saw massive growth, which is important for the survival of the practical use of green technology.

He wanted to dismantle it in 2012, not restructure it, which he probably wants to do now that he took the job. Anyone who wants to see it gone probably wouldn't take it's highest post.
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:33 pm

Corrian wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:At this point it's kicking a half-dead dog that was also just run over by a truck, but news reports indicate that both DWS and the Clinton campaign were incredibly controlling. Birds of a feather and all that. ;)

I'm feeling less sad they lost. I hate we have Trump, but Jesus, this is what they get for their arrogance.

On the bright side, the Democrats will probably, hopefully ( :? ), have an easier time of it in 2020.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:34 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Corrian wrote:I'm feeling less sad they lost. I hate we have Trump, but Jesus, this is what they get for their arrogance.

On the bright side, the Democrats will probably, hopefully ( :? ), have an easier time of it in 2020.

Never underestimate the party's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:34 pm

Corrian wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Considering that I literally couldn't watch a single commercial segment without a "Trump is a bigoted devil!" smear ad for almost a month straight, I'd even go so far as to say that the tactic might have even backfired on her as I'm sure I wasn't the only person tired of the sheer volume of hate coming from her camp.

It is kinda funny though that you were "tired of her sheer volume of hate" than voted Trump.

At least I think the Bernie campaign would have let back on the damn hate attacks.

At the very least, Trump had a message of change. Something that Clinton didn't have. That was probably one of the biggest deciding factors in his victory.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:34 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Considering that I literally couldn't watch a single commercial segment without a "Trump is a bigoted devil!" smear ad for almost a month straight, I'd even go so far as to say that the tactic might have even backfired on her as I'm sure I wasn't the only person tired of the sheer volume of hate coming from her camp.

Where do you live? I didn't see too many campaign commercials since I don't live in the part of Georgia that is "we can use this place to swing Georgia". I.e., in and around Atlanta.

Yeah. Her campaign was extraordinarily negative. She wasn't arguing for much.


Amusingly, my YouTube feeds were always saturated with her ads during the election.

And I live in Nebraska, which she never had a snowball's chance of winning.
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Postby East Klent » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:35 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
East Klent wrote:Meanwhile, we also have people losing their shit over a Starbucks cup and "finally" being able to say Merry Christmas again, as if it were banned or something.

There are blowhards and idiots on both sides. Also, cases such as her's arise when you convince your supporters that your opponent can bring an end to all societal progress over the last 50 years, as if that were possible.


You do know the Starbucks thing is entirely a manufactured hysteria, yes? I mean, damnation, Cracked even just ran an article about how it was fake. And they're officially a dick joke website.

Nobody cares what Starbucks does with its cups. It's literally just a circle jerk about "those dumb Christians getting ruled up about nothing again".

I know the media coverage got it wrong, yes, but I have indeed met people who really did give a shit about it, I kid you not. There is some degree of truth in almost every lie.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:35 pm

Galloism wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:On the bright side, the Democrats will probably, hopefully ( :? ), have an easier time of it in 2020.

Never underestimate the party's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


I mean, I thought this would be a landslide for Clinton. The Democratic Party does really continue to impress.
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:35 pm

Galloism wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:On the bright side, the Democrats will probably, hopefully ( :? ), have an easier time of it in 2020.

Never underestimate the party's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

No truer words.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Sassanidia » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:36 pm

Cymrea wrote:
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I'm not saying he is a dictator. But he is worrying me by demanding to see the names of those who work on climate change and appointing crazy people to offices.

Declaring all news that criticises him as "fake" and installing his own personal sources is certainly reminiscent of dictatorial moves. And appointing people to posts they oppose is only going to do damage.

Nearly all of the newsmedia is running around declaring alternate news sources "fake"- I dont even think he specifically has declared any specific news organizations "fake", but even if he did he won't outlaw it because you can't even prove if a news source is fake.

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