Hillary Clinton could still win the presidency

[The East Marches]

Ethical authority and other things generally aren't consider by people. Human beings tend to look for their own interests. Also you have differing definitions of justice and fairness. Which is why I find the claim that something is "unjust" or "unfair" to be lacking.

You and I and Jackie are voting on where to go to dinner. We're all coworkers and equals (hypothetically), but I get three votes and you and Jackie only get one vote each.

Fair?

Sure, Jackie is probably a good Christian and of good morals unlike us.

A better argument would be that such a system may lead to the other two killing Jackie. Hence why I prefer the Nebraska method.

[Galloism]

You and I and Jackie are voting on where to go to dinner. We're all coworkers and equals (hypothetically), but I get three votes and you and Jackie only get one vote each.

Fair?

Sure, Jackie is probably a good Christian and of good morals unlike us.

You have an odd sense of fairness.

[San Lumen]

You and I and Jackie are voting on where to go to dinner. We're all coworkers and equals (hypothetically), but I get three votes and you and Jackie only get one vote each.

Fair?

Sure, Jackie is probably a good Christian and of good morals unlike us.

A better argument would be that such a system may lead to the other two killing Jackie. Hence why I prefer the Nebraska method.

And then you could gerrymander the presidency. How is that fair?

[Kravanica]

3.7 billion, actually.

Or am I reading this number wrong?

Well, Donald's said his net worth varies based on his personal feelings.

No, seriously.

Yeah, well, I'm just giving you the numbers.

He's amassed an impressive amount of wealth.

[Kravanica]

3.7 billion, actually.

Or am I reading this number wrong?

Looks like it took a dip recently.

His campaign hurt his business interests. He's admitted as much.

[Alvecia]

To his credit, he turned a million dollars into a net worth of 4.5 billion.

No, he didn't. He also inherited over 200 million dollars.

Also fair to point out that he didn't start with just his father's inheritance. He was a businessman for quite some time before that

[Kravanica]

You and I and Jackie are voting on where to go to dinner. We're all coworkers and equals (hypothetically), but I get three votes and you and Jackie only get one vote each.

Fair?

No and thats what some are saying we should do in election. Urban votes should count less than rural votes and no one has yet given a valid reason as to why thats fair.

Life isn't fair. Get the fuck over it.

[San Lumen]

Looks like it took a dip recently.

His campaign hurt his business interests. He's admitted as much.

And because he has refused to sell his business or put it in a divine trust he is breaking the law and should be barred from taking office.

[The East Marches]

Sure, Jackie is probably a good Christian and of good morals unlike us.

A better argument would be that such a system may lead to the other two killing Jackie. Hence why I prefer the Nebraska method.

And then you could gerrymander the presidency. How is that fair?

Because your lot would never be able to pass a Constitutional amendment to solve the EC. You don't have enough votes or support. There is a better more realistic option that could be done.

[Alvecia]

No and thats what some are saying we should do in election. Urban votes should count less than rural votes and no one has yet given a valid reason as to why thats fair.

Life isn't fair. Get the fuck over it.

Better yet. Don't get the fuck over it and make an effort to change it.

[Valrifell]

No and thats what some are saying we should do in election. Urban votes should count less than rural votes and no one has yet given a valid reason as to why thats fair.

Life isn't fair. Get the fuck over it.

So because life isn't fair, our Republic can't be? We can't even try?

Okay, since life isn't fair and this must reflect politics, let's go to absolutism! Then only one person gets represented.

[San Lumen]

No and thats what some are saying we should do in election. Urban votes should count less than rural votes and no one has yet given a valid reason as to why thats fair.

Life isn't fair. Get the fuck over it.

So my vote in New York should count less then someone on a farm in upstate New York or Wyoming? How is that fair? You dont believe in one man one vote?

[San Lumen]

And then you could gerrymander the presidency. How is that fair?

Because your lot would never be able to pass a Constitutional amendment to solve the EC. You don't have enough votes or support. There is a better more realistic option that could be done.

Its even more unfair then the electoral college as it is now.

[Galloism]

Well, Donald's said his net worth varies based on his personal feelings.

No, seriously.

Yeah, well, I'm just giving you the numbers.

He's amassed an impressive amount of wealth.

Yeah. He has. Money has a significant amount of inertia, though.

[The East Marches]

Because your lot would never be able to pass a Constitutional amendment to solve the EC. You don't have enough votes or support. There is a better more realistic option that could be done.

Its even more unfair then the electoral college as it is now.

Then I guess you better try and stop those us aiming for that at the political level.

[San Lumen]

Its even more unfair then the electoral college as it is now.

Then I guess you better try and stop those us aiming for that at the political level.

Its never going to happen. It would be challenged in court.

[Galloism]

Its even more unfair then the electoral college as it is now.

Then I guess you better try and stop those us aiming for that at the political level.

We could always do state level proportional awarding of electors.

[Kravanica]

His campaign hurt his business interests. He's admitted as much.

And because he has refused to sell his business or put it in a divine trust he is breaking the law and should be barred from taking office.

He turned it over to his kids in a blind trust.

Why is it that every idea you have to stop him from taking office turns out to be bullshit?

[Kravanica]

Life isn't fair. Get the fuck over it.

So my vote in New York should count less then someone on a farm in upstate New York or Wyoming? How is that fair? You dont believe in one man one vote?

You have one vote. Everyone in this country who is a citizen has one vote.

[Alvecia]

And because he has refused to sell his business or put it in a divine trust he is breaking the law and should be barred from taking office.

He turned it over to his kids in a blind trust.

Why is it that every idea you have to stop him from taking office turns out to be bullshit?

That isn't a blind trust.

[Galloism]

And because he has refused to sell his business or put it in a divine trust he is breaking the law and should be barred from taking office.

He turned it over to his kids in a blind trust.

This statement is a contradiction in terms.

[San Lumen]

And because he has refused to sell his business or put it in a divine trust he is breaking the law and should be barred from taking office.

He turned it over to his kids in a blind trust.

Why is it that every idea you have to stop him from taking office turns out to be bullshit?

Except he didn't do it.

[Albangary]

Perhaps, but it would be more stressful to a first-timer with little experience in the matter.

He won the campaign fair and square, using the electoral college, which is the system that allows equal representation amoung the states. Failure to recognize this means you refuse to acknowledge democracy.

Well, no. The Electoral college does not allow equal representation between the states. Montana gets 3 votes while California gets dozens.
But nor does it properly represent the people. Those 3 votes in Montana are disproportionately powerful.
The Electoral college is not democracy. But there are threads for that if you'd like to look and see.

So no. He didn't win the election fairly, because the electoral college is inherently unfair.

Electoral votes are based on the population of a state. Trump won the election fairly.


Here's an idea, how about you libtards stop talking about the election, if you can't stop complaining about things not going your way politically, stay out of politics.


Funny how democracy doesn't work when the libtards don't get what they want.

P.S. The United States isn't a democracy, it's a republic.

[Kravanica]

Life isn't fair. Get the fuck over it.

So because life isn't fair, our Republic can't be? We can't even try?

Okay, since life isn't fair and this must reflect politics, let's go to absolutism! Then only one person gets represented.

Because I'm not looking for fairness. I'm looking to create a better system not based on feelings and "muh will of the people".

[Grand Britannia]

Life isn't fair. Get the fuck over it.

So because life isn't fair, our Republic can't be? We can't even try?

Okay, since life isn't fair and this must reflect politics, let's go to absolutism! Then only one person gets represented.

Give every state a sovereign and let those sovereign elect a federal sovereign.

Yes, I like this idea<3

Looks like it took a dip recently.

His campaign hurt his business interests. He's admitted as much.

He should do these again