Hillary Clinton could still win the presidency

[Valrifell]

Trump is unqualified and unfit to be President. He only won because of the stupid system we have. He lost he popular votes by a huge margin. The president has tremendous power.

What happened to the American dream of 'work hard and you can do anything'? Does this not apply to Donald Trump?

You mean Donald "Small loan of a million dollars" Trump?

[Engleberg]

If we wan't to go strictly by qualification, we should probably scrap democracy altogether and go back to monarchy.

I don't know why you think monarchs are qualified...

I mean, seriously, it's a bit terrifying having someone have the Presidency as their first public office. Ever.

But that's incorrect.

They'd be the Crown Prince first, then inherit the throne.

EDIT: I see what you're saying now, lol

[San Lumen]

I don't know why you think monarchs are qualified...

I mean, seriously, it's a bit terrifying having someone have the Presidency as their first public office. Ever.

But that's incorrect.

They'd be the Crown Prince first, then inherit the throne.

EDIT: I see what you're saying now, lol

Eisenhower didn't have any elected office before running in 1952.

[Nilla Wayfarers]

Trump is unqualified and unfit to be President. He only won because of the stupid system we have. He lost he popular votes by a huge margin. The president has tremendous power.

What happened to the American dream of 'work hard and you can do anything'? Does this not apply to Donald Trump?

Well, no. Because he didn't work hard.

[Gauthier]

But that's incorrect.

They'd be the Crown Prince first, then inherit the throne.

EDIT: I see what you're saying now, lol

Eisenhower didn't have any elected office before running in 1952.

The nation lucked out with Eisenhower. He could have been another Grant.

[The Emerald Legion]

How does dividing up the nation and holding separate elections for those divided parts violate one man one vote?

Everyone get's one vote. How those votes apply is another story.

Because my vote was worthless and my dad's vote was worth 1/3 of a republican in Wyoming's vote. Now if you were to say we should hold separate elections in equally divided states where the results were proportionally allocated to our electoral votes, then I guess we could do that.

> Complains about how their vote was worthless to someone who voted republican in Maryland.

I'm just as shafted by this system as you.

[Engleberg]

But that's incorrect.

They'd be the Crown Prince first, then inherit the throne.

EDIT: I see what you're saying now, lol

Eisenhower didn't have any elected office before running in 1952.

He was a general that served as the Allied Supreme Commander in Europe, and a Chief of Staff.

Pretty sure that's good enough in my opinion.

[San Lumen]

Because my vote was worthless and my dad's vote was worth 1/3 of a republican in Wyoming's vote. Now if you were to say we should hold separate elections in equally divided states where the results were proportionally allocated to our electoral votes, then I guess we could do that.

> Complains about how their vote was worthless to someone who voted republican in Maryland.

I'm just as shafted by this system as you.

which is why we should just have straight up popular vote.

[Galloism]

Because my vote was worthless and my dad's vote was worth 1/3 of a republican in Wyoming's vote. Now if you were to say we should hold separate elections in equally divided states where the results were proportionally allocated to our electoral votes, then I guess we could do that.

> Complains about how their vote was worthless to someone who voted republican in Maryland.

I'm just as shafted by this system as you.

I find it puzzling you support a system you fully agree gives you the shaft.

[Targovia]

What happened to the American dream of 'work hard and you can do anything'? Does this not apply to Donald Trump?

Well, no. Because he didn't work hard.

Do you have any idea how hard running a presidential campaign is?
You don't, but neither do I. It seemslike it would be a Very stressful thing to pull off.

[Venerable Bede]

If we wan't to go strictly by qualification, we should probably scrap democracy altogether and go back to monarchy.

I have previous experience as a monarch, if you're looking to hire one.

Unfortunately you're not divinely ordained.

[Galloism]

I have previous experience as a monarch, if you're looking to hire one.

Unfortunately you're not divinely ordained.

I can ordain myself if it helps. Seems kind of silly, but I'm flexible.

[Nilla Wayfarers]

Well, no. Because he didn't work hard.

Do you have any idea how hard running a presidential campaign is?
You don't, but neither do I. It seemslike it would be a Very stressful thing to pull off.

Not as stressful as being the First Lady, running two presidential campaigns, serving as a senator for a decade, and being secretary of state.

[Venerable Bede]

If we wan't to go strictly by qualification, we should probably scrap democracy altogether and go back to monarchy.

I don't know why you think monarchs are qualified...

I mean, seriously, it's a bit terrifying having someone have the Presidency as their first public office. Ever.

They're apprenticed into it.

[Venerable Bede]

If we wan't to go strictly by qualification, we should probably scrap democracy altogether and go back to monarchy.

Only if we make a farmer the monarch. We have to preserve rural interests and whatnot.

Well, it is true monarchy in England tended to be antagonistic to enclosure, and that was quite a rural interest.

[Minarchismusland]

Well, no. Because he didn't work hard.

Do you have any idea how hard running a presidential campaign is?
You don't, but neither do I. It seemslike it would be a Very stressful thing to pull off.

Don't get into Marx's surplus value, Targovia, don't get into Marx's surplus value.

Meritocracy is deeply flawed. Capitalism isn't about working hard and getting rewarded, it's about giving the market what the market wants and getting rewarded, independent of your effort.

[Shonburg]

If you have proof illegals voted in the election you should report them the the FEC and local authorities. You know, if you do have any proof of such a claim that is.

yeah ok, they'll just stay at home

I asked if you had proof that they voted illegal, not that they hypothetically could possibly maybe have done so given the right circumstances.

[Lost heros]

Because my vote was worthless and my dad's vote was worth 1/3 of a republican in Wyoming's vote. Now if you were to say we should hold separate elections in equally divided states where the results were proportionally allocated to our electoral votes, then I guess we could do that.

> Complains about how their vote was worthless to someone who voted republican in Maryland.

I'm just as shafted by this system as you.

And yet you don't think the system should be changed so it stops shafting you?

[Engleberg]

If we wan't to go strictly by qualification, we should probably scrap democracy altogether and go back to monarchy.

Only if we make a farmer the monarch. We have to preserve rural interests and whatnot.

Let's...not do that.

Maybe have a person like that an advisor for the rural people, but definitely not as the monarch.

[Kravanica]

What happened to the American dream of 'work hard and you can do anything'? Does this not apply to Donald Trump?

You mean Donald "Small loan of a million dollars" Trump?

To his credit, he turned a million dollars into a net worth of 4.5 billion.

[Nilla Wayfarers]

I don't know why you think monarchs are qualified...

I mean, seriously, it's a bit terrifying having someone have the Presidency as their first public office. Ever.

They're apprenticed into it.

So the dozens of monarchs who are coronated under the age of 16 are qualified?

[Engleberg]

They're apprenticed into it.

So the dozens of monarchs who are coronated under the age of 16 are qualified?

Some, maybe. But that's why there can be a regent until they are 20 or so.

[Grand Britannia]

yeah ok, they'll just stay at home

I asked if you had proof that they voted illegal, not that they hypothetically could possibly maybe have done so given the right circumstances.

Clearly, none of them would be urged to vote when a candidate runs on a campaign to kick them out of the country. Just a quarter of them needed to vote to swing the election the way it did.

[Lost heros]

Only if we make a farmer the monarch. We have to preserve rural interests and whatnot.

Let's...not do that.

Maybe have a person like that an advisor for the rural people, but definitely not as the monarch.

Only if there at least 2 rural advisors for every 1 urban one.

[Engleberg]

Let's...not do that.

Maybe have a person like that an advisor for the rural people, but definitely not as the monarch.

Only if there at least 2 rural advisors for every 1 urban one.

Well we can't have too many advisors.