Hillary Clinton could still win the presidency

[San Lumen]

Whoever wins the most votes should be elected end of story. So San Francisco's votes and that of Los angeles should count less then someone in Northern California? How is that fair?

What they are saying is that those two cities dominate the election because of their size. Because of that, not all of the state is represented in the vote.

Whoever wins the most votes should win. And the more populous an area is the more representatives it gets. As Earl Warren said in the majority opinion in Sims " Legislators represent people, not trees or acres. Legislators are elected by voters, not farms or cities or economic interests."

[Venerable Bede]

The EC is doing the job it was designed to do, which is what you're upset about.

It was not designed to be a rubber stamp. It was designed to prevent someone unqualified and unfit from becoming president. Its not fair or democratic that someone who wins the popular voter by over two million doesnt become president.

The EC was absolutely not intended to reflect the purely popular vote.

[Engleberg]

What they are saying is that those two cities dominate the election because of their size. Because of that, not all of the state is represented in the vote.

Whoever wins the most votes should win. And the more populous an area is the more representatives it gets. As Earl Warren said in the majority opinion in Sims " Legislators represent people, not trees or acres. Legislators are elected by voters, not farms or cities or economic interests."

Now I don't support that, but I am not qualified to argue this because I am a monarchist who supports an absolute monarchy.

[San Lumen]

It was not designed to be a rubber stamp. It was designed to prevent someone unqualified and unfit from becoming president. Its not fair or democratic that someone who wins the popular voter by over two million doesnt become president.

The EC was absolutely not intended to reflect the purely popular vote.

It was also designed to be check against the people electing someone like Trump.

[Grand Britannia]

What they are saying is that those two cities dominate the election because of their size. Because of that, not all of the state is represented in the vote.

economic interests

they do that by default when you allow only certain sections (*cough*urbancenters*cough*) of the nation to overshadow the rest.

[Venerable Bede]

The EC was absolutely not intended to reflect the purely popular vote.

It was also designed to be check against the people electing someone like Trump.

As opposed to people like Jefferson and Jackson?

[Lost heros]

and that violates one man one vote.

How does dividing up the nation and holding separate elections for those divided parts violate one man one vote?

Everyone get's one vote. How those votes apply is another story.

Because my vote was worthless and my dad's vote was worth 1/3 of a republican in Wyoming's vote. Now if you were to say we should hold separate elections in equally divided states where the results were proportionally allocated to our electoral votes, then I guess we could do that.

[San Lumen]

It was also designed to be check against the people electing someone like Trump.

As opposed to people like Jefferson and Jackson?

Jefferson was 100 perecent qualified and fit to be President. Jackson I cant really comment as as i dont like him in the slightest but neither Jefferson nor Jackson is in the same league as Trump.

[San Lumen]

economic interests

they do that by default when you allow only certain sections (*cough*urbancenters*cough*) of the nation to overshadow the rest.

Who cares? Whomever gets the most votes should be elected. end of story. The EC was designed to be a check on the people as the Founding Fathers did not trust the people to make an informed decision. It was not meant to be a rubber stamp.

[Valrifell]

As opposed to people like Jefferson and Jackson?

Jefferson was 100 perecent qualified and fit to be President. Jackson I cant really comment as as i dont like him in the slightest but neither Jefferson nor Jackson is in the same league as Trump.

Both had more experience than Trump.

Look at a history book, Trump is literally the least qualified president ever. Of course I mean qualified in terms of previous public/military service, traditional stuff you'd expect from a politician.

[Pollenia]

The electoral college was created to give all states a fair say in who should be our next president. Without it, the liberal hippies and dead people would win every time. People need to get over the fact that HILLARY LOST. The president doesn't even have that much power anyway.

[San Lumen]

The electoral college was created to give all states a fair say in who should be our next president. Without it, the liberal hippies and dead people would win every time. People need to get over the fact that HILLARY LOST. The president doesn't even have that much power anyway.

Trump is unqualified and unfit to be President. He only won because of the stupid system we have. He lost he popular votes by a huge margin. The president has tremendous power.

[Venerable Bede]

As opposed to people like Jefferson and Jackson?

Jefferson was 100 perecent qualified and fit to be President. Jackson I cant really comment as as i dont like him in the slightest but neither Jefferson nor Jackson is in the same league as Trump.

Both were openly genocidal, but I suppose that's not really unconstitutional.

[Galloism]

The electoral college was created to give all states a fair say in who should be our next president. Without it, the liberal hippies and dead people would win every time. People need to get over the fact that HILLARY LOST. The president doesn't even have that much power anyway.

What is it with all these one post wonders making silly statements that are roughly as diverse as Tropicana bottles?

[Grand Britannia]

they do that by default when you allow only certain sections (*cough*urbancenters*cough*) of the nation to overshadow the rest.

Who cares? Whomever gets the most votes should be elected. end of story. The EC was designed to be a check on the people as the Founding Fathers did not trust the people to make an informed decision. It was not meant to be a rubber stamp.

Oh no I agree, it kept illegals from deciding the election so I'm cool with that.

[Venerable Bede]

If we wan't to go strictly by qualification, we should probably scrap democracy altogether and go back to monarchy.

[Engleberg]

If we wan't to go strictly by qualification, we should probably scrap democracy altogether and go back to monarchy.

This is exactly what I keep telling people.

[Galloism]

If we wan't to go strictly by qualification, we should probably scrap democracy altogether and go back to monarchy.

I have previous experience as a monarch, if you're looking to hire one.

[San Lumen]

Who cares? Whomever gets the most votes should be elected. end of story. The EC was designed to be a check on the people as the Founding Fathers did not trust the people to make an informed decision. It was not meant to be a rubber stamp.

Oh no I agree, it kept illegals from deciding the election so I'm cool with that.

That is a totally ridiculous claim

[Shonburg]

Who cares? Whomever gets the most votes should be elected. end of story. The EC was designed to be a check on the people as the Founding Fathers did not trust the people to make an informed decision. It was not meant to be a rubber stamp.

Oh no I agree, it kept illegals from deciding the election so I'm cool with that.

If you have proof illegals voted in the election you should report them the the FEC and local authorities. You know, if you do have any proof of such a claim that is.

[Galloism]

Oh no I agree, it kept illegals from deciding the election so I'm cool with that.

If you have proof illegals voted in the election you should report them the the FEC and local authorities. You know, if you do have any proof of such a claim that is.

As I understand it, the punishment is quite steep - 5 years in the federal pen and a $10,000 fine.

[Grand Britannia]

Oh no I agree, it kept illegals from deciding the election so I'm cool with that.

If you have proof illegals voted in the election you should report them the the FEC and local authorities. You know, if you do have any proof of such a claim that is.

yeah ok, they'll just stay at home

[Targovia]

The electoral college was created to give all states a fair say in who should be our next president. Without it, the liberal hippies and dead people would win every time. People need to get over the fact that HILLARY LOST. The president doesn't even have that much power anyway.

Trump is unqualified and unfit to be President. He only won because of the stupid system we have. He lost he popular votes by a huge margin. The president has tremendous power.

What happened to the American dream of 'work hard and you can do anything'? Does this not apply to Donald Trump?

[Valrifell]

If we wan't to go strictly by qualification, we should probably scrap democracy altogether and go back to monarchy.

I don't know why you think monarchs are qualified...

I mean, seriously, it's a bit terrifying having someone have the Presidency as their first public office. Ever.

[Lost heros]

If we wan't to go strictly by qualification, we should probably scrap democracy altogether and go back to monarchy.

Only if we make a farmer the monarch. We have to preserve rural interests and whatnot.