Hillary Clinton could still win the presidency

[The Two Jerseys]

Finally, someone is not completely ignorant about the United States government. The U.S. is not a democracy, it is a republic. So in a manner the EC is a legitimate body of the government.

Yes and they should do their job and overturn the election in favor of the popular vote winner.

You know very well that that's not their job.

[Licana]

So essentially,

- Coasts Decide House of Representatives.

- Coasts Decide Presidency.
- Presidency decides Supreme Court.

- Senate is equal.


Somehow, that doesn't seem quite fair, does it?

Land shouldn't decide things. People should.

Representatives of the States decide things, not Land. :>

Finally, someone is not completely ignorant about the United States government. The U.S. is not a democracy, it is a republic. So in a manner the EC is a legitimate body of the government.

Yes and they should do their job and overturn the election in favor of the popular vote winner.

>they should do their job and not do their job

wew

[Novoslavya]

Finally, someone is not completely ignorant about the United States government. The U.S. is not a democracy, it is a republic. So in a manner the EC is a legitimate body of the government.

Yes and they should do their job and overturn the election in favor of the popular vote winner.

I wonder what you would be saying if it was the other way around...

[San Lumen]

Yes and they should do their job and overturn the election in favor of the popular vote winner.

You know very well that that's not their job.

Actually it is. The EC was not designed to be a rubber stamp. It was designed to prevent someone unqualified and unfit from becoming President.

[The Two Jerseys]

You know very well that that's not their job.

Actually it is. The EC was not designed to be a rubber stamp. It was designed to prevent someone unqualified and unfit from becoming President.

We've been over this a hundred times, you know very well that Trump is both qualified and fit to be President.

[Go-awaynia]

If that happened then we would be using mob rule which would turn this nation into a disastrous democracy, also the EC votes on the votes of the states, not the nation. So if the popular vote in that state went to one candidate that's where the EC would go also. Trump is not the first president to not have the popular vote.

[Novoslavya]

You know very well that that's not their job.

Actually it is. The EC was not designed to be a rubber stamp. It was designed to prevent someone unqualified and unfit from becoming President.

You keep on repeating that over and over and over again.

Why is Trump not qualified? He is not lacking in education, work experience, has had contacts with the political life for many decades, loves his country and so on.

If you think Hillary is more qualified just because she is a career politician, then let us put Newt as president, he has more experience than her.

[Pandeeria]

Actually it is. The EC was not designed to be a rubber stamp. It was designed to prevent someone unqualified and unfit from becoming President.

You keep on repeating that over and over and over again.

Why is Trump not qualified? He is not lacking in education, work experience, has had contacts with the political life for many decades, loves his country and so on.

If you think Hillary is more qualified just because she is a career politician, then let us put Newt as president, he has more experience than her.

Trump has almost zero political experience. About the closest thing to it was that he dabbled in Law a long while ago.

[Novoslavya]

Actually it is. The EC was not designed to be a rubber stamp. It was designed to prevent someone unqualified and unfit from becoming President.

We've been over this a hundred times, you know very well that Trump is both qualified and fit to be President.

San Lumen's arguments fall into two groups:
When Trump says something vaguely bad: "He means it and is honest about it"
When Trump says something actually good: "I don't believe a word he says"

And actually, he did not say why he thinks Hillary is so more qualified than Trump. I would really like to know.

[The Two Jerseys]

We've been over this a hundred times, you know very well that Trump is both qualified and fit to be President.

San Lumen's arguments fall into two groups:
When Trump says something vaguely bad: "He means it and is honest about it"
When Trump says something actually good: "I don't believe a word he says"

And actually, he did not say why he thinks Hillary is so more qualified than Trump. I would really like to know.

You forgot the third: repeating it endlessly makes it true.

[Novoslavya]

You keep on repeating that over and over and over again.

Why is Trump not qualified? He is not lacking in education, work experience, has had contacts with the political life for many decades, loves his country and so on.

If you think Hillary is more qualified just because she is a career politician, then let us put Newt as president, he has more experience than her.

Trump has almost zero political experience. About the closest thing to it was that he dabbled in Law a long while ago.

Grant, Taylor and Eisenhower had 0% political experience too, still became presidents.

[Morgantown West Virginia]

Trump has just came out and claimed that he would had won the popular vote if there would not have been millions of votes that were cast illegally.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4532209664

[Farnhamia]

Trump has just came out and claimed that he would had won the popular vote if there would not have been millions of votes that were cast illegaly.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4532209664

He just can't leave it alone. The recounts will do nothing, he'll be President come the third week in January but he just can't leave it be. He always has to have the last word, no matter what.

[Novoslavya]

Finally, someone is not completely ignorant about the United States government. The U.S. is not a democracy, it is a republic. So in a manner the EC is a legitimate body of the government.

Yes and they should do their job and overturn the election in favor of the popular vote winner.

That would be not doing their job. Their job is to vote for the one who won their state.

Besides, looking back, Gore had more votes than Bush, no?
Gore was 1000 times both a better person and leader than Clinton, and Bush was 1000 times worse than Trump. Hence, the EC is in 1000000 times less a need to overturn the vote this time than then, and they didn't do it then either, so they shouldn't do it now.

[Farnhamia]

Yes and they should do their job and overturn the election in favor of the popular vote winner.

That would be not doing their job. Their job is to vote for the one who won their state.

Besides, looking back, Gore had more votes than Bush, no?
Gore was 1000 times both a better person and leader than Clinton, and Bush was 1000 times worse than Trump. Hence, the EC is in 1000000 times less a need to overturn the vote this time than then, and they didn't do it then either, so they shouldn't do it now.

Yeah, well, since Trump isn't actually President yet, it's hard to measure him against anyone who previously held the office.

[Pandeeria]

Trump has almost zero political experience. About the closest thing to it was that he dabbled in Law a long while ago.

Grant, Taylor and Eisenhower had 0% political experience too, still became presidents.

Those are exceptions, not the rule. For such a position of power as the president of the United States, it ridiculous to let someone inexperienced to take the office.

[San Lumen]

Yes and they should do their job and overturn the election in favor of the popular vote winner.

That would be not doing their job. Their job is to vote for the one who won their state.

Besides, looking back, Gore had more votes than Bush, no?
Gore was 1000 times both a better person and leader than Clinton, and Bush was 1000 times worse than Trump. Hence, the EC is in 1000000 times less a need to overturn the vote this time than then, and they didn't do it then either, so they shouldn't do it now.

Yes they should. it was designed to prevent someone unfit and unqualified from becoming President. Bush and Trump are not even in the same league.

[Vassenor]

Trump has almost zero political experience. About the closest thing to it was that he dabbled in Law a long while ago.

Grant, Taylor and Eisenhower had 0% political experience too, still became presidents.

They were all ex-military though, which kind of counts.

[San Lumen]

Grant, Taylor and Eisenhower had 0% political experience too, still became presidents.

They were all ex-military though, which kind of counts.

and were all component and fit to be President. Trump is not.

[Farnhamia]

Grant, Taylor and Eisenhower had 0% political experience too, still became presidents.

They were all ex-military though, which kind of counts.

Taylor died after 15 months in office. Grant's administration is not exactly highly regarded.

[San Lumen]

They were all ex-military though, which kind of counts.

Taylor died after 15 months in office. Grant's administration is not exactly highly regarded.

True but Grant at least had military experience. Trump has no experience at all and is neither fit nor qualified to be President and the EC should do what is was designed for and stop him.

[Hionicy Mandilberland]

That would be not doing their job. Their job is to vote for the one who won their state.

Besides, looking back, Gore had more votes than Bush, no?
Gore was 1000 times both a better person and leader than Clinton, and Bush was 1000 times worse than Trump. Hence, the EC is in 1000000 times less a need to overturn the vote this time than then, and they didn't do it then either, so they shouldn't do it now.

Yeah, well, since Trump isn't actually President yet, it's hard to measure him against anyone who previously held the office.

I think it very likely that Trump will be better than most people think. Though, admittedly, that's a low bar.

[Vassenor]

Yeah, well, since Trump isn't actually President yet, it's hard to measure him against anyone who previously held the office.

I think it very likely that Trump will be better than most people think. Though, admittedly, that's a low bar.

Any particular reasons why?

[San Lumen]

I think it very likely that Trump will be better than most people think. Though, admittedly, that's a low bar.

Any particular reasons why?

I have very low expectations

[Hionicy Mandilberland]

I think it very likely that Trump will be better than most people think. Though, admittedly, that's a low bar.

Any particular reasons why?

Partly because it would be very difficult to be as bad as people think he is.