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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:15 pm

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:I really don't see a recount doing much of anything, but more power to them I guess.

As a candidate Stein has the legal right to ask for a recount.


Sure, I just don't see the result changing. Especially not enough to influence the election.
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Postby Aclion » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:15 pm

USS Monitor wrote:It's not a huge expense in the grand scheme of things

But just think of all the squirrels that could have been saved with all that money.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:15 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
San Lumen wrote:There wouldnt be civil war. Refusing to verify the electoral college because it did its job would spark a constitutional crisis. If you dont verify the electoral college you have no President. You'd have to declare the electoral college result invalid and then each state can only have a single vote and with the polarization in Congress I have severe doubts they'd ever be able to pick a winner.
But they'll never pick Hillary Clinton.

Then who would they pick? They are only allowed to pick from the candidates who ran.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:15 pm

Arana wrote:The reason she's raising money is that A) the margin is close enough to justify a recount, and B) there's suspicion that electronic voting machines could have been tampered with in those three states.

Regardless of who you supported for president, I fail to see why anyone would oppose counting again. It doesn't cost you, personally, anything, and the integrity of our elections is the most important thing by far.


[tinfoilhat] Well, see George Soros will pay an army of goons to make fake ballots and stuff the boxes with them, now that they know how many they need to fake.[/tinfoilhat]

Though, the reasoning is rather suspect given IIRC MI had all paper ballots.

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Well thats a shit reason all in all, considering he won by tens of thousands in the states.

And she won by millions nationally.
The recount is only in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin I believe, all of which Trump only won by one point or less.


There is no national vote. This is why it's illegal for a Maryland resident to vote in Wisconsin.
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Postby Great Kauthar » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:17 pm

this recount won't do anything, if anything it will expose Hillary and the 3 Million illegals who voted for her.
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Postby Arana » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:18 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Arana wrote:The reason she's raising money is that A) the margin is close enough to justify a recount, and B) there's suspicion that electronic voting machines could have been tampered with in those three states.

Regardless of who you supported for president, I fail to see why anyone would oppose counting again. It doesn't cost you, personally, anything, and the integrity of our elections is the most important thing by far.


[tinfoilhat] Well, see George Soros will pay an army of goons to make fake ballots and stuff the boxes with them, now that they know how many they need to fake.[/tinfoilhat]

Though, the reasoning is rather suspect given IIRC MI had all paper ballots.

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:And she won by millions nationally.
The recount is only in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin I believe, all of which Trump only won by one point or less.


There is no national vote. This is why it's illegal for a Maryland resident to vote in Wisconsin.

Urban areas in Michigan had paper ballots. Rural areas had electronic. It varies from county to county.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:18 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:this recount won't do anything, if anything it will expose Hillary and the 3 Million illegals who voted for her.

Complete and utter rubbish.

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Postby Stormaen » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:19 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:I doubt very much that it will happen.

The EC will meet on December 19th. We'll leave this thread in place, barring a descent into madeness, until then.

It this craziest of election years never say never.

The craziest of election years was probably 1824. The winner (John Q. Adams) didn't have a majority of either the electoral or popular votes and barely scraped a majority in the House election.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:19 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:this recount won't do anything, if anything it will expose Hillary and the 3 Million illegals who voted for her.

Complete and utter rubbish.


He's probably right that it won't do anything.
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Postby Novoslavya » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:19 pm

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Senkaku wrote:"Live in less than 10% of this wide diverse country"
Most of our population lives in cities, which also are typically the most diverse areas of the country. Rocks and trees don't have feelings about the election, and living next to them doesn't make someone better than someone who lives in The Capitol an urban environment.

i Agree completely plus I believe there was fraud in several states including Pennsylvania, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin and North Carolina. How does the governor lose in North Carolina but the incumbent senator wins and Trump wins the state? In Florida how do you go from a nearly insurmountable lead in early vote to a narrow loss? It just doesnt add up.


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Gosh, people like you are fun. Not to forget kids, ruined middle eastern countries are less important than Bruce Jenner peeing where he wants to (all tho, that is a bad example since Trump said trans people should chose their bathrooms according to their will).

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:20 pm

Stormaen wrote:
San Lumen wrote:It this craziest of election years never say never.

The craziest of election years was probably 1824. The winner (John Q. Adams) didn't have a majority of either the electoral or popular votes and barely scraped a majority in the House election.

And it was completely legal. No one had a electoral college majority so the election was thrown into the House just like it would perfectly legal of for the electoral college to overturn the result.
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:20 pm

The United States of North Amerigo wrote:no she can't you fucks, donald trump won and is being sworn in on january 20th


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Postby Arana » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:21 pm

Novoslavya wrote:
San Lumen wrote:i Agree completely plus I believe there was fraud in several states including Pennsylvania, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin and North Carolina. How does the governor lose in North Carolina but the incumbent senator wins and Trump wins the state? In Florida how do you go from a nearly insurmountable lead in early vote to a narrow loss? It just doesnt add up.


Before elections: "Trump is insane if he thinks there can be fraud"
After elections: "There was a fraud clearly"

Gosh, people like you are fun. Not to forget kids, ruined middle eastern countries are less important than Bruce Jenner peeing where he wants to (all tho, that is a bad example since Trump said trans people should chose their bathrooms according to their will).

...I'm sorry, what?
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Postby Great Kauthar » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:22 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:this recount won't do anything, if anything it will expose Hillary and the 3 Million illegals who voted for her.

Complete and utter rubbish.


http://www.infowars.com/report-three-million-votes-in-presidential-election-cast-by-illegal-aliens/

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Stormaen wrote:The craziest of election years was probably 1824. The winner (John Q. Adams) didn't have a majority of either the electoral or popular votes and barely scraped a majority in the House election.

And it was completely legal. No one had a electoral college majority so the election was thrown into the House just like it would perfectly legal of for the electoral college to overturn the result.

Except they're not going to do that and Trump will be president :^)
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Postby Stormaen » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:22 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Stormaen wrote:The craziest of election years was probably 1824. The winner (John Q. Adams) didn't have a majority of either the electoral or popular votes and barely scraped a majority in the House election.

And it was completely legal. No one had a electoral college majority so the election was thrown into the House just like it would perfectly legal of for the electoral college to overturn the result.

Oh I'm not saying what they did was illegal, it was perfectly constitutional. I'm just saying that 1824 was crazier than 2016... And that's saying something!
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:23 pm

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San Lumen wrote:And it was completely legal. No one had a electoral college majority so the election was thrown into the House just like it would perfectly legal of for the electoral college to overturn the result.

Oh I'm not saying what they did was illegal, it was perfectly constitutional. I'm just saying that 1824 was crazier than 2016... And that's saying something!

I think this year and 1824 are equally crazy. The electoral college has a chance to actually do what it was designed for.

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Postby Great Kauthar » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:24 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Senkaku wrote:"Live in less than 10% of this wide diverse country"
Most of our population lives in cities, which also are typically the most diverse areas of the country. Rocks and trees don't have feelings about the election, and living next to them doesn't make someone better than someone who lives in The Capitol an urban environment.

i Agree completely plus I believe there was fraud in several states including Pennsylvania, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin and North Carolina. How does the governor lose in North Carolina but the incumbent senator wins and Trump wins the state? In Florida how do you go from a nearly insurmountable lead in early vote to a narrow loss? It just doesnt add up.

Because of high Republican turnout opposed to lower democrat turnout. US elections are based on turnout from party supporters and in swing states independents will tip it, and this Democrats turned out in waves in states they would've won anyway, but didn't turnout as much in states they had a chance.
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Postby Arana » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:25 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Complete and utter rubbish.


http://www.infowars.com/report-three-million-votes-in-presidential-election-cast-by-illegal-aliens/

San Lumen wrote:And it was completely legal. No one had a electoral college majority so the election was thrown into the House just like it would perfectly legal of for the electoral college to overturn the result.

Except they're not going to do that and Trump will be president :^)

Infowars is almost universally regarded as a bullshit source. It is, after all, run by a man who believes the government puts chemicals in fruit juice to make children gay, and that Hillary Clinton is possessed by demons.
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Postby Novoslavya » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:25 pm

Arana wrote:
Novoslavya wrote:
Before elections: "Trump is insane if he thinks there can be fraud"
After elections: "There was a fraud clearly"

Gosh, people like you are fun. Not to forget kids, ruined middle eastern countries are less important than Bruce Jenner peeing where he wants to (all tho, that is a bad example since Trump said trans people should chose their bathrooms according to their will).

...I'm sorry, what?


I have seen people say how Hillary is better, because she is a safer option for the LGB and the rest of such, while knowing she supports the terrorists in Syria, is supported by the Saudis and so on.

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Postby Aclion » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:25 pm

Arana wrote:
Novoslavya wrote:
Before elections: "Trump is insane if he thinks there can be fraud"
After elections: "There was a fraud clearly"

Gosh, people like you are fun. Not to forget kids, ruined middle eastern countries are less important than Bruce Jenner peeing where he wants to (all tho, that is a bad example since Trump said trans people should chose their bathrooms according to their will).

...I'm sorry, what?

He's calling you a hypocrite, and following up by suggesting you care more about where people pee then the lives of brown people.
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Postby Wacksytopia » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:26 pm

Hasn't Trump toned himself down since the election?
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:26 pm

Wacksytopia wrote:Hasn't Trump toned himself down since the election?

Forgive me if i dont believe a word the man says.

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Postby Stormaen » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:26 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Stormaen wrote:Oh I'm not saying what they did was illegal, it was perfectly constitutional. I'm just saying that 1824 was crazier than 2016... And that's saying something!

I think this year and 1824 are equally crazy. The electoral college has a chance to actually do what it was designed for.

It won't, though.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:27 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I think this year and 1824 are equally crazy. The electoral college has a chance to actually do what it was designed for.

It won't, though.

but they should. If not it proves there is really no point to them

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Postby Great Kauthar » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:28 pm

Arana wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:
http://www.infowars.com/report-three-million-votes-in-presidential-election-cast-by-illegal-aliens/


Except they're not going to do that and Trump will be president :^)

Infowars is almost universally regarded as a bullshit source. It is, after all, run by a man who believes the government puts chemicals in fruit juice to make children gay, and that Hillary Clinton is possessed by demons.

Can you prove any of that is false though? I mean have you seen Hillary?
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